Open 426: *Unspecified, as of yet* -GAME STARTED DAWGS

[Chrimi]

So here's my scumlist so far:

Rofl - Possible Replacement because Uber is fucking beast at catching scum
GreyWing - What @Malakittens said
BK201 - Lurking?

[Shiidaji]

Shii

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Oh come on, just look at her posts and tell me that's coming from self-concious, always alert scum, eugh. I know there's always that one game where that one guy that's just "Too scummy to be scum" is actually scum, but I don't think that's the case here. And I do not doubt that he has experience with mafia, it's just that newness to the site that's making him look extremely scummy to the 'scumhunters' that build cases around such golden tidbits like OMGUS and the like. (why)

Question: Why are you making up excuses for him? These are all assumptions.

I think he's town

Uber, what's your history with rofl? Like, did you read him really well in the past, or is it just a personal matter? (If the latter don't go into it etc.)

[Shiidaji]

So here's my scumlist so far:

Rofl - Possible Replacement because Uber is fucking beast at catching scum
GreyWing - What @Malakittens said
BK201 - Lurking?

And lo, you drop your Lara suspicion already? Yeah, I don't like that wagon at all, or what fell off of it, rather.

I do however agree on the Greywing bit, who also jumped off the Lora wagon, I need to hear more from him to solidify/dissipate my suspicion.

Vote: Greywing

You parked your vote on Lora first, and the only other thing you'd done is accuse your second suspect, Chrimi, as far as I can see. So then why in god's name would you vote Gunny for 'buddying' Chrimi? Where's the scum intent? If you're saying they're both scum, what would the be the point of scum drawing needless attention to each other by 'buddying'?

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So LH is at L-2 now. My stance on the matter is that I have a gut feeling that he is townie. A townie that says too much.

... Yet you're not opposed to the lynch at all. Yeah, my scumread on you's increased.

[Greywing]

Alright, I just took a read through Greywing's posts and I'm getting a scum read on him.

Mainly, he starts off serious with what looks to not be a RVS vote. He votes LH because of the claim and the admittance of lying. (Post #15)
(Post #18) basically says LH is already waffling on Page 1. (Town is known to waffle especially new-town. This includes when they get into the spot light for doing something uncommon)
(Post #129) is more tunneling on LH. Stating that the vote is horrible. Then Blast is mentioned basically for his read on a person that two others have already mentioned. He states that Chrimi is trying too hard at acting annoyed and that he is forcing town-tells.
(Post #216/#218) Mentions Shotty for his apparent buddying of Chrimi.

I'll be keeping my vote on Rofl for the time being, but I'm willing to switch to Greywing for the above posts.

He mentions people not giving reads, but he hasn't necessarily given reads himself.

@ Grey what's your view on Blast, Scigatt and Shii? Also why?

Blast is leaning Town right now. We played together in Newbie 1247 (his first game on site I believe) and he was Town. I don't see a difference between this game, and N1247 as of yet. It's hardly a solid case, but that's my gut reaction to him right now.

I'll get back to you on the other two within a couple hours. Gotta do a re-read as I can't remember what either of them have done off the top of my head.

As the first on the Lora wagon (Now you're off somewhere else I guess) I'd like to know your opinion on its' growth and its' members, particularly the two you're accusing of buddying.

I'll get back to you on this as well.

So here's my scumlist so far:

Rofl - Possible Replacement because Uber is fucking beast at catching scum
GreyWing - What @Malakittens said
BK201 - Lurking?

And lo, you drop your Lara suspicion already? Yeah, I don't like that wagon at all, or what fell off of it, rather.

I do however agree on the Greywing bit, who also jumped off the Lora wagon, I need to hear more from him to solidify/dissipate my suspicion.

Vote: Greywing

You parked your vote on Lora first, and the only other thing you'd done is accuse your second suspect, Chrimi, as far as I can see. So then why in god's name would you vote Gunny for 'buddying' Chrimi? Where's the scum intent? If you're saying they're both scum, what would the be the point of scum drawing needless attention to each other by 'buddying'?

I don't know either player all that well, so I was testing whether Gunny's blatant buddying was common for him. Chrimi confirmed it for me. Gunny can be Town for now.

UNVOTE

[Blastoide]

I never said I was pro-lynch either. I can try to go through his reads and show you all the town things he says, but I just can't. My reasoning for town is purely gut feeling.

I was overly defensive, period. It's ok, you have a good reason to let your vote lounge and not make any effort in hunting scum. You are safe for now.

Ok, first I don't understand this at all. LH, can you please explain this to the slow-minded people, A.K.A. Me.

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Why is your vote on Arugula again?

The only difference between the two of you before you made your last 2 posts is that he is also derping around with finding the usage of red funny. If he can demonstrate that he takes interest in what's going on outside of his tunnelvision I may retract my OMGUS vote

Here he explains that the reason why he voted for Arugula is that it was a OMGUS vote. He also said that if Arugula moved his interest he would move his vote. He pretty much stopped attacking him, yet he doesn't move his vote. LH, I think that you should start scumhunting and move your vote on someone that actually starts looking suspicious.

These next 3 posts he asks other people for reads, yet still he hasn't given any on anyone other than Arugula, Chrimi, and Jal.

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Jal Reads?

Chrimi is scum because the first order of business of town is to confirm themselves as town by scumhunting. He seemingly managed to get a town read from everyone because of entirely different reasons, why would a townie want that?

Arugula is scummy because he's not scumhunting either, if anything he's trying to pressure me into slipping but how deep can I slip, what does he expect?! I told him the vote was omgus and that I was defensive; His reaction is to bring in this bullshit to spice it up or as Mala said to make me look even more scummy than I actually look
As for town reads I am having difficulty with that, probably because the players playstyles and personality is unknown to me. I might overcome my lazyness and read some games tomorrow to narrow down these variables. Can't say i'd agree to switch my vote off Aragula yet to compromise for a majority. I'd rather have people joining my bandwagon.

Greywing jumping off the bandwagon now is pretty strange. Shotgun and Chrimi what about that post?

@Arugula No, I expect you to die.

What's your stance on Blastoide

btw?

So looking at this, it is pretty much a null tell, however my gut still says he is town. If you have anymore questions, I will try to answer them to the best of my ability.(Which as you can see isn't that great.)
LH, what are your reads on everyone? And don't worry that you don't know anyones previous play styles or personalities. Just look at their behavior in this game.

[drmyshotgun]

Wonderful thing "Gut". You can point out scummy things from a player's posts and yet still conclude with fence-sitting saying "Gut".

So since I buddied Chrimi and it was "confirmed" by Chrimi, I

CAN

be Town?
This is really bad wording from Greywing.

So the suspects are:
Roflcopter
Greywing
Loran
Blastoise

[Greywing]

Alrighty, here we go:

Shii's Town. It's pretty obvious.
Scigatt's leaning scum to me. He's posting regularly, but not really doing much regardless. He had a scum read on Chrimi, but suddenly dropped it after the "Town-tells" (which I still don't buy.) Other then that, he's trying to push for information, without providing much of his own.

As for those on the LV wagon:

I'm Town.
Jal's leaning Town, primarily due to his wall post that I read as legit scumhunting. I also like how he's pushed Shii, who's basically going to be unlynchable on D1. Scum would be going for the easy mislynches.
Arugula's leaning scum. This is mostly gut.
Gunny's leaning Town, also gut.
Chrimi's leaning scum. As I've already stated, I think the Town-tells have been forced, as well as his aggressive behaviour. Scumhunting's been pretty meh as well.

I'm still getting a scum-read on LV, but that's softening. Essentially, if Arugula and Chrimi are scum, they're not going to both jump on their partner. It doesn't make any sense.

I can see Sci/Chrimi/? due to the aformentioned debate between the two earlier.

[Arugula]

Here is a summary of Greywing's play.
Lora is scum.
Jk drmy is scum for buddying to Chrimi.
Jk I don't know his playstyle.
Hm let me throw together some bs gut read list to make it look like I'm scumhunting.

UNVOTE: Lora
VOTE: Greywing

Lora is still scummy, but Greywing is flip-flopping like crazy and uses his gut instead of reasoning.

[Chrimi]

Alrighty, here we go:

Shii's Town. It's pretty obvious.
Scigatt's leaning scum to me. He's posting regularly, but not really doing much regardless. He had a scum read on Chrimi, but suddenly dropped it after the "Town-tells" (which I still don't buy.) Other then that, he's trying to push for information, without providing much of his own.

As for those on the LV wagon:

I'm Town.
Jal's leaning Town, primarily due to his wall post that I read as legit scumhunting. I also like how he's pushed Shii, who's basically going to be unlynchable on D1. Scum would be going for the easy mislynches.
Arugula's leaning scum. This is mostly gut.
Gunny's leaning Town, also gut.
Chrimi's leaning scum. As I've already stated, I think the Town-tells have been forced, as well as his aggressive behaviour. Scumhunting's been pretty meh as well.

I'm still getting a scum-read on LV, but that's softening. Essentially, if Arugula and Chrimi are scum, they're not going to both jump on their partner. It doesn't make any sense.

I can see Sci/Chrimi/? due to the aformentioned debate between the two earlier.

I lol'd so hard. Nice one, if this was a joke.

I've already mentioned, my aggressive behavior was on purpose, I'm trying a new playstyle. Learn to fucking read.

Earlier you said you had a scumread on shotty for buddying with me, but now he's leaning town? Make up your fucking mind, please.

And if jal is your scum buddy, you should scream at yourself for giving that one away.

[Chrimi]

Mixed Jal and Scigatt, sorry.

[Om of the Nom]

Just waiting for some confirmation from rofl that he definitely wants to replace out, but I will still look for a replacement in the meantime. If rofl doesn't respond by midnight tomorrow, I'll definitely replace him.
Votecount will come soon.

[Om of the Nom]

Arugula (1): Loranthaceae
Loranthaceae (2): Jal, drmyshotgun
Blastoide (3): BK201, roflcopter, UberNinja
Roflcopter (2): Blastoide, Malakittens
Greywing (3): Chrimi, Shiidaji, Arugula

With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
Deadline is on the 29th of July.

[BK201]

Is this said jokingly? I see later you sort of answered this question. What are your reads on both Hyper and BK?

I really hope that BK would talk more instead of his one line messages.

I've felt this way about a player named Kassadin before, I realize my play this game has been very similar to Kass's. In short, maybe Blastoide is town.

Here is a summary of Greywing's play.
Lora is scum.
Jk drmy is scum for buddying to Chrimi.
Jk I don't know his playstyle.
Hm let me throw together some bs gut read list to make it look like I'm scumhunting.

UNVOTE: Lora
VOTE: Greywing

Lora is still scummy, but Greywing is flip-flopping like crazy and uses his gut instead of reasoning.

Look I'm sorry guys for not posting much content but I'm going to sheep this vote 100%. Not to mention I lost my glasses today and its a bitch to read this but I promised.

[BK201]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Greywing
Anyways I agree with Arugula.

[Chrimi]

BK doesn't usually act like this...

There's one game I saw him act like this, and that was in a game I modded.

...

Can you guess what alignment he was in that game?

VOTE: BK201

Only time I've seen BK act like Kassadin is as scum.

[Loranthaceae]

Mainly, he starts off serious with what looks to not be a RVS vote. He votes LH because of the claim and the

admittance of lying.

(Post #15)

Wow, why did you say that?

UNVOTE: Aragula

VOTE: Malakittens

[Chrimi]

He was referring to this.

"Phew, I'm vanilla town" Is a standard first line on that site regardless of role.

So basically, you just roleclaimed and then admitted you might be lying?

VOTE: Lora

[UberNinja]

Sorry guys, *something else* -cough, cough- stole the brunt of my attention on-site tonight.

[Chrimi]

Sorry guys, *something else* -cough, cough- stole the brunt of my attention on-site tonight.

That wouldn't happen to be the game you're modding, would it?

[Malakittens]

LH just saying your vote jump there doesn't give me the best reaction feeling. If you clearly look at Greywings post you'll see it. Why are you jumping on me not him? Also you should have clammy questioned me because now I can officially say your vote on me was horrible. <.<

[BK201]

BK doesn't usually act like this...

There's one game I saw him act like this, and that was in a game I modded.

...

Can you guess what alignment he was in that game?

VOTE: BK201

Only time I've seen BK act like Kassadin is as scum.

Forget alignment, when have I acted like Kassadin-lurker period?

[BK201]

Wait the game you modded? yeah right I didn't act like Kassadin.

[BK201]

I replaced in at the very end of Day 1 and one of my scum buddies was lynched. With doc and JK in that set up there was a very good chance Uber was going to be protected the entire game so I just tunneled Uber in the small hope he would be lynched. wtf.

[UberNinja]

Like that was ever gonna happen, lol.

[Loranthaceae]

Mainly, he starts off serious with what looks to not be a RVS vote. He votes LH because of the claim and the

admittance of lying

. (Post #15)

There's a slight difference between "admitted you might be lying" and "admittance of lying". One doesn't mean shit whereas the other feeds you to the LAL wolves.

@Chrimi it's obviously about that post but can't you see the difference? Look:

Spoiler: Mala says I admitted I lied

Mainly, he starts off serious with what looks to not be a RVS vote. He votes LH because of the claim and the admittance of lying. (Post #15)

VS

Spoiler: Greywing just says I might be lying

"Phew, I'm vanilla town" Is a standard first line on that site regardless of role.

So basically, you just roleclaimed and then admitted you might be lying?

VOTE: Lora

The thing that makes this particularly nasty is the fact that you talked about this yourself

Spoiler: here

FoS on Jal.

I did not have any intention of sheeping, but you twisted it into a context to look like I did.

and

Spoiler: here

Yep. Jal is basically trying to say I'm sheeping a vote when I wasn't. Which is indeed a misused of context and a straight case of twisting. Scum tend to use this as a playstyle in order to make someone look more scum than they actually are.

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So, any explanations? Greywing must be town because you clearly seem to be scum.

LH just saying your vote jump there doesn't give me the best reaction feeling. If you clearly look at Greywings post you'll see it. Why are you jumping on me not him? Also you should have clammy questioned me because now I can officially say your vote on me was horrible. <.<

Talk about double standards...jeez. If this vote on you, on grounds which you yourself made clear you consider a scum strategy, you label as horrible.. what does that make you?.. scum or liar? I say both. Votes pls.