Judge, Jury, and Executioner - Over

[Ser Panda]

That might even justify Quil's actions...

Unvote: Quilford

Unvote: Quilford

Vote: Sir Bastion

Vote: Sir Bastion

Why you no have opinion on Judge claim?

Was this really a RVS vote?

[Thor665]

Bastion needs to stop cheerleading and start scumhunting.

Because I agreed with this.



But tell me Why were you so curious?

I was curious because I think that accusation was a misrep and, despite Arugula's energy, there was a sudden acceleration to Bastion (of all people) over anyone else with no clarification of purpose.

Why do you think my vote wasn't RVS?

[Quilford]

Hells yes.

UNVOTE: Axelrod
UNVOTE: Axelrod
VOTE: Thor
VOTE: Thor

More stuff tomorrow -- tied up at the moment.

[Ser Panda]

That might even justify Quil's actions...

Unvote: Quilford

Unvote: Quilford

Vote: Sir Bastion

Vote: Sir Bastion

Why you no have opinion on Judge claim?

Was this really a RVS vote?

Agree here ^. How in the world does this look like RVS?

[Ser Panda]

I was curious because I think that accusation was a misrep and, despite Arugula's energy, there was a sudden acceleration to Bastion (of all people) over anyone else with no clarification of purpose.

Why do you think my vote wasn't RVS?

I'm sorry I don't even understand.

What accusation?

what Misrep?

explain what arugula has to do with this especially since you have more votes on bastion

Seriously I wasn't able to understand those two lines.

I've already said why.

Help me understand how its supposed to be RVS votes.

[IceGuy]

Vote Count

Sir Bastion (9): Thor665, Thor665, Teleporting Speed Hippos, vijay2vasandani, Nocmen, TheShadow, TheShadow, DCLXVI, Gooner

Arugula (8): Quilford, vijay2vasandani, vijay2vasandani, Thor665, Teleporting Speed Hippos, Teleporting Speed Hippos, DoomYoshi, Ser Panda
DCLXVI (6): WrathChild, WrathChild, StrangerCoug, StrangerCoug, TheShadow, DoomYoshi
Thor665 (6): Ser Panda, Ser Panda, Knight of Cydonia, Knight of Cydonia, Quilford, Quilford
TheShadow (5): Sir Bastion, DCLXVI, Axelrod, Gooner, Gooner
vijay2vasandani (5): Nero Cain, guille2015, Nocmen, Arugula, Arugula
Teleporting Speed Hippos (2): Nero Cain, Axelrod
Nocmen (2): Sir Bastion, Knight of Cydonia
DoomYoshi (2): guille2015, DCLXVI
Scott Brosius (1): Sir Bastion
Ser Panda (1): Axelrod
WrathChild (1): Nero Cain
Knight of Cydonia (1): guille2015
Nero Cain (1): Nocmen
guille2015 (1): DoomYoshi

12

votes are currently not on a player.

Every player has

3

votes.
With

21

alive, it's

11

to hammer.
There are

63

votes in play,

0

of which are frozen, leaving

63

votes active.

Deadline is August 11th, 3 a.m. CEST.

[Thor665]

Okay, I'll use small words, I forgot you were a newbie;

1. The 'accusation' is the comment you agreed with that he is a cheerleader and not a sumhunter.

2. I think that accusation is a misrep (a misrep is something you think is kinda twisting the truth of a situation to paint it in a bad light)

3. Arugula has to do with 'this' (this being the wagon situation) because I believe his wagon has more teeth than an other currently.

4. I will explain how it's an RVS vote the instant you explain how it isn't - after all, you've caught me in a glaring contradiction, don't you want to spell it out for people and show how truthful it is?

[Ser Panda]

Your post was so out of context. It was hard to understand.

Wasn't my failing, it was yours.

The accusation was valid.

Sir Bastion has 9 posts not one of which has been useful.

so accusation which is a misrep argument fails.

As for point 3. You're double voting bastion.

Even If you were to tell me that those votes were RVS votes which I don't for a second believe.
then why the fuck are your votes still on the guy.
Bastion was at L-2 and L-1 at some point.
And you're okay with a guy getting lynched with two of your RVS votes?

as for point four.
I've already pointed out the posts which prove that it wasn't an RVS vote.

I think its pretty easy to understand without any explanation.

but still

Do you have scumreads on any of the top five wagons? (those with 6+ votes)

Let's see - I moved a vote to Arugula.
I'm double voting Sir Bastion.

Nah, clearly I think both are obv. town and am just playing badly. What of it?

I'm doing it for RVS, I was curious why you were doing it.

I see a contradiction.

DCL asked you for scum reads believeing that you were ignoring the major wagons.
and you use a post were you sarcastically tell him that you you're voting for sir bastion because you think he's town.

That might even justify Quil's actions...

Unvote: Quilford

Unvote: Quilford

Vote: Sir Bastion

Vote: Sir Bastion

Why you no have opinion on Judge claim?

Was this really a RVS vote?

The votes clearly weren't RVS.
you're voting for the guy because he had no opinion on the judge claim.
That isn't a random vote..

[Thor665]

It is a random stage vote - unless you can explain to me how not having an opinion on the judge thing equates to being a scumtell.
Is it?

[Thor665]

Oh, and looking at his iso I see 3 posts that i would call useful.

Of course one is an attack on you, so you may not be fond of that one. (<--this is a subtle accusation, I'm pointing it out so you don't think my post is too hard to puzzle out)

[RedPanda]

It is a random stage vote - unless you can explain to me how not having an opinion on the judge thing equates to being a scumtell.
Is it?

You used it as a scumtell to double vote.

and Random voting stage.

do you understand what random means?

[RedPanda]

If you think Sir bastion is town.

Why are you keeping him at L-2?

[Thor665]

Do you understand what it means?

Because RVS isn't about being totally random unless you are really playing badly. Otherwise we'd all use a number generator.

And I'm keeping him at L-2 because it amuses me and because I don't think he's town.

[Ser Panda]

It is a random stage vote - unless you can explain to me how not having an opinion on the judge thing equates to being a scumtell.
Is it?

You used it as a scumtell to double vote.

and Random voting stage.

do you understand what random means?

If you think Sir bastion is town.

Why are you keeping him at L-2?

[Thor665]

Do they not have 'Preview' in your board settings or something?

[Ser Panda]

Do you understand what it means?

Because RVS isn't about being totally random unless you are really playing badly. Otherwise we'd all use a number generator.

And I'm keeping him at L-2 because it amuses me and because I don't think he's town.

RVS is about everything being totally random.

when it stops being random is when it stops being RVS.

[Ser Panda]

Do they not have 'Preview' in your board settings or something?

I posted out of hydra.

I quoted it with the hydra so that the posts are there in my ISO

[Thor665]

It is a random stage vote - unless you can explain to me how not having an opinion on the judge thing equates to being a scumtell.
Is it?

Oh, and looking at his iso I see 3 posts that i would call useful.

Of course one is an attack on you, so you may not be fond of that one. (<--this is a subtle accusation, I'm pointing it out so you don't think my post is too hard to puzzle out)

You play very badly then and I am sad for you.
If you think when I say RVS I mean totally random, blurple-blurple' then, yes, my vote was not RVS.
No vote is RVS by that definition, and thus it cannot be a scumtell.

Why do you find all of Sir Bastion's posts useless? I would point to iso 5-7, you're really calling that 'useless' here?

[Ser Panda]

ISO - 5 opinion on the judge claim. its useless because 0 scumhunting.
ISO - 6 RVS VOTES.
ISO - 7 he points something out to my hydra partner. doesn't seem like an attack since it went nowhere.

Actually I made an error.

When I meant totally random. I meant those votes which are totally random and votes which aren't serious at all.

[Ser Panda]

And please don't tell me your vote wasn't serious.

I'm not going to buy that bullshit.

I've already made my case

[Gooner]

SerPanda-Thor: SerPanda makes a decent enough case that Thor's vote wasn't random because there was some reasoning behind it and he kept it there so it probably isn't random.

Now, should I vote for him over Sir Bastion?

I lean no. Thor's at least making some attempt to engage with people which Sir Bastion is not doing.

Now, onto my prime suspect who is still The Shadow. He fence sat on the Judge claims saying that "He should claim. But he shouldn't claim unless he's getting lynched.". Classic fence-sitting without actually giving an opinion so that he can follow the momentum of the town no matter which way it goes. Now that's not too bad in and of itself.

Since then he has made no attempt to explain his earlier comment and has instead done very little and waited for the momentum on him to dwindle, which it has. The fact that the momentum on him has dwindled has made me even more suspicious of him.

[Thor665]

@Gooner - the momentum on him dwindled because of the Bastion outbreak...you're voting Bastion, discuss.

@Ser Panda - The vote was exactly as serious as it could have been at that stage of the game, why does me having that vote mean I shouldn't question your attempted vote later? Because that's what you asked me, but that doesn't make sense.

As to your take on his ISO - if none of that matters I'm amazed you aren't calling me out for my lack of contribution in my ISO.

[StrangerCoug]

@Ser Panda - what's your Bastion case again, I forgot?

Oh?

You're double voting the guy.

Why should you care about my reasons for voting the guy?

Unvote Strangercoug

Vote Thor

Why should Thor care only about what he thinks?
UNVOTE: DCLXVI
VOTE: Ser Panda
VOTE: Ser Panda

Do you understand what it means?

Because RVS isn't about being totally random unless you are really playing badly. Otherwise we'd all use a number generator.

And I'm keeping him at L-2 because it amuses me and because I don't think he's town.

RVS is about everything being totally random.

when it stops being random is when it stops being RVS.

No, RVS is our chance to joke around for a tad because most people know we're voting with clearly no expectation that a lynch will actually go through on that reasoning. It stops when scumhunting starts.

[Gooner]

@Gooner - the momentum on him dwindled because of the Bastion outbreak...you're voting Bastion, discuss.

Yes but I think that both are scum at the moment for different reasons. I do prefer TheShadow though.

[Thor665]

@Gooner - Shadow is double voting Bastion. Discuss.