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Post Post #275 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:07 am

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I get that most people think the analysis sucks, but I am going to finish it. I'll try to be less descriptive.
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Post Post #276 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:22 am

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That's even scummier, trying to look helpfull while doing as less work as you can. It needs MORE description if anything.
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Post Post #277 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:27 am

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iDanyboy wrote:That's even scummier, trying to look helpfull while doing as less work as you can. It needs MORE description if anything.

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Post Post #278 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:29 am

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I think he's saying he'll be less descriptive like, "this player said this".
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Post Post #279 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:20 am

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I'm officially lost.
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Post Post #280 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:38 am

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@Staeg: Given that virtually all of Amrun's posts that were not contentless were attacking Bitmap, I think it is reasonable to assume that he had already made up his mind prior to asking that question. (I do agree that his vote on Bitmap alone does not justify this conclusion - it's the tone of the posts he made attacking Bitmap, particularly the one Scooby quoted, that makes it for me.)

@Vash: Just to re-iterate and emphasize what I said earlier, if you want your pbpa to be useful, go into more detail on why particular posts made you think people were scum/town. Summarizing every post is probably not necessary.
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Post Post #281 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:44 am

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Shamrock wrote:@Staeg: Given that virtually all of Amrun's posts that were not contentless were attacking Bitmap, I think it is reasonable to assume that he had already made up his mind prior to asking that question. (I do agree that his vote on Bitmap alone does not justify this conclusion - it's the tone of the posts he made attacking Bitmap, particularly the one Scooby quoted, that makes it for me.)

And you're right. What I'm saying is, scooby's in confirmation bias territory and is trying to twist anything and everything against her.
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Post Post #282 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:45 am

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Staeg wrote:
Shamrock wrote:@Staeg: Given that virtually all of Amrun's posts that were not contentless were attacking Bitmap, I think it is reasonable to assume that he had already made up his mind prior to asking that question. (I do agree that his vote on Bitmap alone does not justify this conclusion - it's the tone of the posts he made attacking Bitmap, particularly the one Scooby quoted, that makes it for me.)

And you're right. What I'm saying is, scooby's in confirmation bias territory and is trying to twist anything and everything against her.


So you are accusing of scooby of tunneling? What about Amrun's attack on me?
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Post Post #283 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:48 am

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Bitmap wrote:
Staeg wrote:
Shamrock wrote:@Staeg: Given that virtually all of Amrun's posts that were not contentless were attacking Bitmap, I think it is reasonable to assume that he had already made up his mind prior to asking that question. (I do agree that his vote on Bitmap alone does not justify this conclusion - it's the tone of the posts he made attacking Bitmap, particularly the one Scooby quoted, that makes it for me.)

And you're right. What I'm saying is, scooby's in confirmation bias territory and is trying to twist anything and everything against her.


So you are accusing of scooby of tunneling? What about Amrun's attack on me?

Accusing, not exactly - he's not scummy for it. Amrun isn't the fiend of all scums, either.
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Post Post #284 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:44 pm

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Amrun wrote:I asked the question in order to evaluate Bitmap, because - shocker! - I have NOT decided about his alignment. He is continually doing scummy shit, but he is apparently known for doing scummy shit, so it's hard to evaluate.

Bullshit. Why are you voting for him then? Why more than half of your posts are weak attacks against him?

You are NOT trying to deiced his alignment. You ARE trying to make him look as SCUM.

Amrun wrote:The point of the question was not to get at Bitmap's "intent," because it WAS an obviously clumsy reaction fish. The point of the question was to see if it was an attempt at looking town or whether it was an attempt to scumhunt. That is really scummy, but again,
I'm stuck wondering whether he would actually be that scummy as town.

This is exactly why you are scum, Amrun.

You fucking knew this question would not do anything. There was not a valid response. Anything Bitmap answered woiuld not be enough to get his intent. You just made that question because you ARE trying to make him look as SCUM.


Please don't post until you've read the game. No, I am NOT voting for Bitmap. And you're arguing that I asked him a question only to make him look more scummy without looking at the full line of questions, his response, and my answer - in which I DID look at his intent and concluded that it was more likely town than scum. I originally placed my vote on Bitmap when I first read the game in the first pages of the game. I continued to pursue it, yes - if you don't understand why, then honestly, fucking quit mafia.

You just don't like me and are happy to maybe find me a bit scummy and so are ramping it up. It feels pretty genuine, though.


I think it's extremely unfair that some people get to know how Bitmap may or may not be confirmed town and others don't. This will come up post game. It's bullshit.
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Post Post #285 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:48 pm

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It's not anything about him that makes me think he's conftown that you can't see yourself. Question, would scum have made that their sig at that moment that Bitmap did?
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Post Post #286 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:59 pm

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LOL, according to Amrun, I FEEL GENUINE... no not even a remote suspicion of me being a scum pushing a dark agenda, I AM FUCKING GENUINE

And she looks pretty pissed at bitmap being conf town

Can we please lynch this scumgirl already?
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Post Post #287 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:03 pm

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MattP wrote:It's not anything about him that makes me think he's conftown that you can't see yourself. Question, would scum have made that their sig at that moment that Bitmap did?


Matt, it's best that we don't talk about it cause I didn't know that was against the rules. And yes, if scum had balls of steel, they would.

scooby wrote:LOL, according to Amrun, I FEEL GENUINE... no not even a remote suspicion of me being a scum pushing a dark agenda, I AM FUCKING GENUINE

And she looks pretty pissed at bitmap being conf town

Can we please lynch this scumgirl already?


Nah, I want to hear more people talking.
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Post Post #288 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:06 pm

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MattP wrote:It's not anything about him that makes me think he's conftown that you can't see yourself. Question, would scum have made that their sig at that moment that Bitmap did?


Made WHAT his sig? I am missing something important here. I thought it was Nexus posting that made him conftown somehow (can't figure it out).

scooby, you being an idiot has no bearing on your alignment, and I feel strongly gut-town on you. That is how it is.
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Post Post #289 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:07 pm

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@Amrun: I'm sorry if I caused all of this. The reason why MattP said I was conftown was due to this quote:

IceGuy wrote:I really, really, really want to lynch Bitmap.

Unfortunately, he's probably town.


I placed this in my signature not knowing that we can't even have any sort of reference of this ongoing game in our signatures at all. I misinterpreted the rules which then MattP thought that scum would never have the balls to do something like I did.

Anyways, I'm feeling them town vibes from Amrun. And I'm sorry if I made people pissed. :(
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Post Post #290 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:12 pm

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It had nothing to do with balls of steel >.>

It's because the quote doesn't read, "this player thought I was town but I was scum," it reads, "this player thought I was unbearable but I was town"

You putting it in your sig has the intention of reading the second way. I am of course assuming you quoted it sincerely.

Unless you used your sig quoting as a tactic to look town, which is just poor play.
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Post Post #291 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:13 pm

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MattP wrote:It had nothing to do with balls of steel >.>

It's because the quote doesn't read, "this player thought I was town but I was scum," it reads, "this player thought I was unbearable but I was town"

You putting it in your sig has the intention of reading the second way. I am of course assuming you quoted it sincerely.

Unless you used your sig quoting as a tactic to look town, which is just poor play.


Nah, you pretty much hit the nail.

Also, I know I'm probably going to die tonight.
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Post Post #292 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:15 pm

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VOTE: amrun

town doesn't get upset over people being accidentally confirmed town. as screwy as the situation may or may not be amrun's reaction to it is extremely scummy.

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Post Post #293 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:17 pm

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DCLXVI wrote:town doesn't get upset over people being accidentally confirmed town.


Are you seriously dense? I'm not at all upset about that. I was upset because I wasn't being told WHY and information was redacted by the mod, but half the game knew about it and the other half did not.
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Post Post #294 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:18 pm

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Amrun is town, NEXT.
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Post Post #295 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:19 pm

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MattP wrote:Amrun is town, NEXT.
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Post Post #296 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:19 pm

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Also if you think that anyone should EVER accept hearsay of other non-alignment-confirmed players saying something [redacted] made Player X confirmed town without investigating what [redacted] is to find out for him/herself, then you really need to re-evaluate. But like I said such things should be discussed post game.

As it stands, I do think Bitmap is town because of this and am pretty happy leaving it at that. Also MattP is town by extension.
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Post Post #297 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:27 pm

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Post Post #298 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:30 pm

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Vote Shamrock with me, Matt.
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Post Post #299 (ISO) » Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:34 pm

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I've been thinking shamrock for awhile but was doing my tunneling on Vash

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