Mini 1353 - Dr. Who Mafia - The End of Time (Game Over)

[Starbuck]

[url="GreyICE"]She's done very little, and is now declaring her intent to do very little in the future. [/quote]
And this isn't true either.

Do I need to count the number sheer lies and misreps in the post? Because it's definitely more than five fingers.

[GreyICE]

Now, an episode of Starbuck vs. Starbuck

When did I say that plan ol' regular Townie was super important? That's putting words in my mouth right there.

This is the first time that I've ever really crumbed in all my time playing, but I figured

with a role of such high importance

as Rose, that I should.

Which Starbuck is correct?

I also wasn't worried that a hider would target me. I was worried that the scum would target me, hence I commuted last night. Stop misrepping me.

I frakking knew it!

I also think that I know what happened to kortul. I'm pretty sure that he hid behind me.

Hmmmmm...



Yeah, this is a 'goddamn hider' post.


Look, anyone reading this knows what happened.

1) Starbuck saw dead hider who didn't like her much, went "oh god he hid behind me!" What role could explain this? Commuter! Explains the missing scum kill (scum shot Kortul!) and explains that even though the hider tried to hide behind her, he didn't die from hiding behind her, oh no no no.

The emphasis on the fact that she's ROSE TAYLOR being important, but the fact that she's VT making her unimportant is amazing. I'm ROSE TAYLOR! Of course I'm town. Just a humble VT, of course, trying to help out. But ROSE TAYLOR! And would MoI make Rose a fakeclaim? (Yes, yes he would)

2) Everything since then has been your genuine Grade A flail. I mean my god, look, she's worried that we're mislynching Iecerint, because it's so easy to 'know' he's town (he's not scum, after all!). She's just trying to help the town. Her role is "totes plausible." (Yes Korlash, that's most definitely a tell)


186 this.

[Starbuck]

1. The character of Rose, not the role itself.

2. "I also THINK I know what happened to kortul."

3. It's not a god damn hider post, at all.

4. You are fabricating lies because that's not the case at all. I *AM* a commuter.

5. It's TYLER! Not Taylor.

6. Rose is not a VT. She's one now because of me using my one-shot commute last night, but when I flip, I will flip as a town one-shot commuter.

7. I will give you the suspicion of my claim because I'd probably suspect it as well. In any case, I am town.

8. Not flailing at all. I'm not worried about mislynching Iec. If I was worried about that I WOULDN'T HAVE VOTED FOR HIM.

9. And yes, if I have information that could possibly help the town, I will give it.

[Zang]

Starbuck- Even if you're just a VT now. Why claim? That is still important information that you are giving to scum and you really had little reason to suspect that the hider would target you.

[Starbuck]

Because I thought I'd give decent information to town, apparently, I was wrong.

[GreyICE]

If you wanted to give decent information to the town you would have ISOed Kortul and tried to figure out who he targeted.

[greenknight]

Also, people were already discussing the Kortul breadcrumb regarding Iec for a couple of pages when starbuck suddenly came up with this idea that Kortul might have targetted her without any evidence.

[T-Bone]

I could get behind an Acosmist/Starbuck pairing. It makes a lot of sense to me.

[Starbuck]

Also, people were already discussing the Kortul breadcrumb regarding Iec for a couple of pages when starbuck suddenly came up with this idea that Kortul might have targetted her without any evidence.

I hadn't read up that far yet, and probably should have done so before posting.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Final Vote Count of Day 2 - Lynch occurred at post 614

Iecerint (LYNCH) - GreyICE, Korlash, CryMeARiver, Acosmist, Zang, Starbuck
Acosmist (1) - Greenknight
triangle123 (1) - Iecerint

Not Voting (2) - T-Bone, triangle123

With 10 active votes - 6 are required to lynch.

Activity Check - All currently good since the day didn't last long enough to get to prods ...
Also a lynch has occurred. Mod scene incoming ….

[MagnaofIllusion]

Just Who Do You Think You Are Messing With?

Hardly any time had passed since the discovery of the remains of Father of Mine and the swarm of Vashda Nerada when a crowd descended on Iecerint. He was busy sipping tea while gazing at the singularity absorbing the remains of the dying Universe.

“Doctor, we have a problem” the boldest of them said stepping forward.

“What?” Iecerint asked “Why are you always coming to me with the problems. Just for once can’t you figure something out on your own?”

“Well, that’s the problem. Or more precisely you are the problem. We did a quick spectral analysis of the Vashda Nerada remains. Their DNA was shattered which means they were hit with a Sonic Disruption Wave. One of the only ways to kill them off. And unfortunately for you there is only one possible device in this god-forsaken place that could produce that … your Sonic Screwdriver”

Iecerint looked at the assembled group. The typical wry smile passed his lips. He pulled out his Sonic Screwdriver.

“You think this little baby could produce a Sonic Disruption Wave?” he asked as he flipped it end over end. He suddenly pointed it at the throng and a wave of painfully powerful sound poured out, dropping them to their knees.

“Well …. maybe you were right” he said as the throng sat stunned on the carpet.

Suddenly from off to his right Starbuck pointed a Plasma Disruptor and shot him right in the chest. Iecerint staggered back, reeling from the shot.

“Ridiculous” he yelled “How many times have I saved all of your lives? Saved your entire planet more times than some of you have years lived! And this is the thanks I get? All I’ve done is protected you from the scary things that go bump in the night. You should be thanking me for getting rid of that swarm of parasitic killers. Do you really think you could kill me? I’m a Time Lord and was just about to start my Regeneration anyway. Lucky for you that I’m going to be around to take care of the rest of the monsters hiding in your midst. Maybe I'll even let you live ...”

At that a stream of cascading energy erupted from Iecerint’s face and hands. It lit up the hotel like the 4th of July. A rather stilted laugh came from Iecerint as the energy began it’s task of rejuvenating him. Then another blast came from Starbuck and struck Iecerint in the head. The wave of energy exploded outward as Iecerint’s now lifeless body hit the floor.

Iecerint – The Tenth Doctor, Serial Killer was lynched Day 2.

It is now Night 2. All actions are due by July 23 at 5:00pm EDT, in (expired on 2012-07-23 17:00:00). Night will end as soon as possible after this time but will probably be delayed until Tuesday morning.

[MagnaofIllusion]

He’s Having A Bit Of An Identity Crisis

With the quick removal of the Doctor everyone went about the remains of what is a day in the hotel. No-one was really at ease even with another killer dead … the possibility that more villains were hidden in their midst weighed on everyone’s minds.

Sooner or later once again everyone retired to get some fitful sleep. Most were awakened multiple times with an odd creak or sound coming from the hotel that jolted their adrenaline and kept them from falling back to slumber for a while.

Eventually people began to filter out into the common areas in what has started to become habit. Everyone gets something to eat, does something to bide their time and eventually gathers up when someone invariably does not show up.

Today it is Korlash who is missing. He predictably does not answer the knocks on his door. Opening it you come upon a scene of confusion. Korlash lies face down on his bed, a plasma burn made right into the back of his head. He had laid out two sets of clothes for the day that never came. On the left was you would expect from a regular young Londoner … a sensible shirt and a pair of slacks. On the right sits a rather bad-ass leather jacket and pair of combat boots.

It seems that Korlash couldn’t quite decide what he wanted to be … a regular bloke or the most dangerous man in London. A quick search of his body confirms your fears … no weapons at all to be found.

Korlash – Mickey Smith (or was it Rickey), Vanilla Town was killed Night 2.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Day 3 has begun ...

Vote Count 3.0 - As of post 662

Not Voting (8) - GreyICE, Greenknight, Acosmist, Starbuck, T-Bone, Zang, triangle123, CryMeARiver

The Current deadline is August 6, 2012 at 4:00pm EDT. Countdown is (expired on 2012-08-06 16:00:00).

With 8 active votes - 5 are required to lynch.

Activity Check - All currently good.

[GreyICE]

Vote: Greenknight

[CryMeARiver]

Since there's a lynch, lets go ahead and look at the votes on him.

Greyice, Korlash, CMAR, Acomist, Zang, Starbuck...Surprise surprise, Acomist has the worst vote on the wagon. He is SCUM. Iece has been ruled the SK at this point, so why not just come in for your only post of the day and speed lynch him? Acosmist needs to be lynched next. He comes in with an activity post and a bandwagon vote. For someone who is just 'here' he paid well enough attention to decided that Iece is "scum" despite the fact that it is almost obvious that Iece is the SK. At the very least with Iece claiming to have killed Tierce he isn't scum. That smells of opportunistic scum trying to get through the day as fast as possible. We could have rode out the day phase a little before speed lynching Iece, so shame on all ya'll.

There is no doubt he is scum. Now to find the other. Looking through his ISO there are players he interacted with (interacted being a loose term since he's done less than me) and players he hasn't. He 'suspected' GK and Jason Day 1. Though I don't see where he backed these claims up ever. He did end up having his vote on me after I pressured him, but I bet he would have been happy with a Jason lynch. Why didn't he come back to hammer? Probably because Tierce told him to stay away from the thread. If Jason was his 'top' suspect why didn't he come and take the opportunity to finish? Because his buddy Tierce was on the hotseat and coming on to vote Jason would look bad. But anyway...got a little off track. I want to look as his actions with living players. He writes GreyIce off as town pretty early, even with Greyice doing his reaction test thing. Despite all was going on, he saw fit to question Kortul why he was pushing GreyIce for dropping his claim. His interaction early was with Starbuck, focusing on her for more than one post. He does take a shot at me for taking a big shot at Korlash, but really doesn't do anything with it.

The players he interacted with the most are kortul and Starbuck. He had called GK scum in #194, but never elaborated. He does eventually rule Zang as town too. But at this point his top 2 town reads are everyone's top town reads and top two scumreads are the two leading wagons. Acomist did avoid mentioning Tierce at all. Most of his interactions that were non committal were with Starbuck and Kortul. Acosmist has also not mentioned Korlash, Triangle, or Iece at all. (Until his Day 2 vote) He did kinda attack GK in a roundabout way, but it looks disingenuous to me. I think with his posting, it points to either Starbuck, someone who he focused on but never committed to deciding her alignment, or Korlash, who like Tierce he has ignored completely, or Triangle who's only interaction with him was to answer why GK and Jason were scum. Could be some subtle coaching, because Triangle realized that Acomist had in fact not given reasonings for his top scumreads.

There's something to mull over.

I find myself agreeing with this post.

No Starbuck needs to die next for panic-assuming the commuter targeted her.

Acosmist is 100% correct btw. SK is scum, scum is SK. Scum is defined as "anything not town" and anything not town must die.

T-Boner gets town points though.

Badass lynch, hope MoI isn't on weekend VLA too hard to stop us from seeing this flip. Sorry Iec, you weren't getting out of this one.

I think you might be talking about my post, not Acomist's?


I need to reread the Grey-Starbuck exchange to make more sense of it. But Grey has some explaining to do for that vote.

Vote: Acosmist

[Starbuck]

I'm wondering the same about that greenknight vote straight off the bat. What brings you to that conclusion, Grey?

[T-Bone]

Acomist is the way I am going today. Regardless if Starbuck or Triangle (or apparently GK according to Grey) is also scum, really it all points back to Acomist being scum pretty much no matter what. I'm not sure who his partner is yet. I have a couple of possibilities running through my head, but, Acosmist needs to flip first. Any thoughts on him though as always is appreciated.

Vote: Acosmist

[Starbuck]

I definitely agree with the bead on Acosmist, but I will hold my vote for now because I want to go back and read him over.

[Acosmist]

VOTE: T-Bone

accused me of bandwagoning the SK (sic)

I feel like everything he posts should say "(sic)"

[Acosmist]

Cry, why do you agree with that post? Why would anyone want to?

[Acosmist]

He 'suspected' GK and Jason Day 1. Though I don't see where he backed these claims up ever.

Acosmist, why is Jason scum? Why is Green? What do you think of Starbuck?

Jason's attitude in response to GreyICE and more seems to be more about procedure than substance. He's mad. He's flipped out. In fact, he's still flipping out about "fence-sitting". I'm going to butcher a joke about alternative pleading to explain what I mean. Someone is busted for possession. His defenses are "I never had anything on me" and "The cops who found the drugs I had on me didn't have a warrant." Jason seems to be mad about being caught, about the

way

people have come around to the belief that he's scum.

Green, from his initial handling of the GreyICE claim. He really badly wanted it to say something about Zang. He wanted a Zang lynch off it, and interpreted Zang's reaction in a distorted way to justify it. When he finally unvoted Zang, his very next post was to vote GreyICE. He was trying to massage the interaction between them into one lynch or another.

I see Starbuck agreed with me about this.

Starbuck asked GreyICE a loaded question (and apparently hasn't backed down from that) and I called her on it. I haven't seen anything else to concern me in that direction. I mean, doubling down on it isn't great, but whatever. My opinion on Starbuck is that I don't know what her loaded question says about her alignment.

Vote is now welded to the demonstrated liar.

[greenknight]

Seriously Grey? You were calling all my d1 attackers scum yesterday and now you vote me for no reason?

Speaking of which I still suspect starbuck and acos for previously covered reasons, but not so much triangle because after rereading Tierce she looked to be actively attempting to discredit triangle at 2 points - first by agreeing with triangle's reasoning regarding me (knowing I would flip town) then the attack on triangle's meta arguments late in the day.

It's funny Acos quoted his own post just now, as I think acos is in fact the one who's mad about being called out by T-bone as scum for the wrong reasons here. which is why he's using this factual error = deliberate lying = scum argument.

vote: Acosmist

Also don't really believe that starbuck as town would get super excited and claim immediately without reading the 2 pages posted so far on day 2, whereas I can see scum having a fakeclaim prepared and ready to go should there be unexpected night results.

CMAR, what other strong reads do you have at this point?

[Zang]

Vote: Greenknight

Why are you voting for greenknight?

[Acosmist]

MOAR VOTES

[triangle123]

Surprise surprise, Acomist has the worst vote on the wagon

What about it makes you think it was the worst vote?

He 'suspected' GK and Jason Day 1. Though I don't see where he backed these claims up ever.

I actually find it rather weird that T-Bone makes a claim like this because later on in his same post, he appears to be cognizant of the fact that Acosmist backed up his reads during his interactions with me, seeing as he discussed this.

Acosmist, apart from T-Bone, who do you think is scum? I don't like the way Acos doesn't appear to really be actively scum-hunting at this point and is instead poking his attacker. It wouldn't be necessarily scummy if he had described other reasons for finding T-Bone scum, but unless I missed something, all his attacks on T-Bone center around the attacks made on him. Acosmist's case on him feels more like something defensive rather than a genuine attempt at scum-hunting, and that's what strikes me as scummy.

Vote: Acosmist

As for Starbuck's claim, I do agree that the timing of it feels off and it's scummy that she would be so convinced that Kortul must have hid behind her. That said, I just don't see her Tierce-vote in Day 1 as a bus because at the time, there wasn't much of a Tierce wagon to speak of. It doesn't make sense that she would try to sacrifice a competent buddy like that. For now, she remains a town read of mine.