Open 426: *Unspecified, as of yet* -GAME STARTED DAWGS

[Jal]

I'm not answering your questions, putting info into your logic isn't going to be helpful. Simply because I don't understand it.

You can't answer it because you

know his response doesn't implicate him at all

.

That "reaction test" of yours was completely made-up fluff.

[Om of the Nom]

Blastoide (1): UberNinja
Roflcopter (2): Blastoide, Malakittens
Greywing (5): Shiidaji, BK201, drmyshotgun, roflcopter, Chrimi
Chrimi (4): Arugula, Jal, Greywing, Loranthaceae

With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
Deadline is on the 29th of July.
Greywing is V/LA until the 28th.

If you want me to send out unofficial prods, just ask me to, but only if it's been at least 2 days since their last post. 3 days is when it's in the official prod range.
Also, if there is a hammer, can you guys send me a PM to let me know. I may not actually be reading the thread at the time.

[Loranthaceae]

I'm not answering your questions, putting info into your logic isn't going to be helpful. Simply because I don't understand it.

@Loran LAWL. Okay, so as any mafia role you have to find out who the blues are. And that's extremely boring because you still know that if you don't get a blue then you're killing a townie, still one more win for you. There's no point in that. As town, if you lynch someone who you think is scum, there's always a chance that they're town, which means you are losing. That's fun

I get that, but I imagine when you get the rolecop role you subconsciously feel obligated to supply your team with the important advantage of finding blues. If you sent in your action and you found a townie it's a loss => fun.. as you put it.

[Loranthaceae]

EBWOP: This is of course pure speculation again, which I'm stressing again .. I am terrible at. But I share it nevertheless because why not. Jal.. this is the first time someone calls me pro town. I'm flattered .. hope you don't turn out to be scum cause that would be demoralizing.

[Shiidaji]

Hello. Full attention to the game when I wake up~

[Loranthaceae]

From Greywings (he was scum rolecop) and Blastoids previous game:

@Tierce: Why are you reading me as Town after 3 posts? I could be scum bussing.

From this game:

So, any explanations? Greywing must be town because you clearly seem to be scum.

While I appreciate you clearing me, that's hardly damning evidence either way. Mala could be scum bussing me, or it could be Town vs. Town. It's a mistake to assume that just become someone's pushing another, that both players are different alignments.

That's awkwardly identical. Don't know what to make of it

[Chrimi]

@Jal: It was a very obviously scummy response, I didn't know I would have an audience of nutbrains to entertain. I shouldn't need to explain.

Loran, here's a translation:

Scummy scumness translates to A VOTE

So please, vote Greywing. Make the world a better place <3

[Chrimi]

I'm not answering your questions, putting info into your logic isn't going to be helpful. Simply because I don't understand it.

@Loran LAWL. Okay, so as any mafia role you have to find out who the blues are. And that's extremely boring because you still know that if you don't get a blue then you're killing a townie, still one more win for you. There's no point in that. As town, if you lynch someone who you think is scum, there's always a chance that they're town, which means you are losing. That's fun

I get that, but I imagine when you get the rolecop role you subconsciously feel obligated to supply your team with the important advantage of finding blues. If you sent in your action and you found a townie it's a loss => fun.. as you put it.

But it's not a loss, because you can still kill a townie every night.

And it doesn't mean losing if you never find a single one, either, because you can get them mislynched or kill them after they claim.

If you can't find a single scum, it does mean losing.

See the difference?

[Loranthaceae]

@Shii Can I get a list of your reads please? You have been pretty town earlier but you have toned it down a bit. Maybe this Chrimi vs Jal, Chrimi vs Greywing thing is a bit distracting.

In fact this stalemate should give us sufficient time to hear everyone's reads so we should use it, especially Mala, Uber, Blastoide. Can you add reasons as to why we should jump on whoever you are voting for?

[Chrimi]

Loran, would you do me a favor and give me your exact reason on why you're voting me?

If it's simply because I'm active when I'm interested, and there's a TINY chance that I could be scum and interested because I'm rolecop, although it's much more likely that I'm a townie... Then you really need to move your vote. Greywing's meta shows that sentence might make him scum, and you've expressed that you think other people are scum, so why are you not voting one of them?

That's rather silly reason. The only other reason is if I was perhaps picking on your scumbuddy.

[Loranthaceae]

Loran, would you do me a favor and give me your exact reason on why you're voting me?

If it's simply because I'm active when I'm interested, and there's a TINY chance that I could be scum and interested because I'm rolecop, although it's much more likely that I'm a townie... Then you really need to move your vote. Greywing's meta shows that sentence might make him scum, and you've expressed that you think other people are scum, so why are you not voting one of them?

That's rather silly reason. The only other reason is if I was perhaps picking on your scumbuddy.

I'd rather put you on pause for a few pages so please don't respond to this. I think you're not scumhunting. The reasons to vote Greywing were bad, or at least I don't see them. You post way to much quantity over quality. And your excuses and other peoples excuses for your behavior seem forced and artificial to me.

[Chrimi]

Hmm, don't respond to it?

Sorry, good luck trying to pause me.

Anyways, there are great reasons to vote Greywing, you stated one yourself. Yet your vote is on me.

You're voting me, yet you want to pause me for a few pages? Kay, cus that makes sense.

And I don't need excuses for my behavior xD

[Loranthaceae]

Hmm, don't respond to it?

Sorry, good luck trying to pause me.

Anyways, there are great reasons to vote Greywing, you stated one yourself. Yet your vote is on me.

You're voting me, yet you want to pause me for a few pages? Kay, cus that makes sense.

And I don't need excuses for my behavior xD

So what are those reasons again? What I stated is not a reason to find him scummy. Actually if he'd be scum he'd probably pay attention to distance himself from things he said in a previous game where he was scum. Or not .. idn, wifom, i'd rather believe it means absolutely nothing other than for him bussing is a viable scum strategy right from the beginning of the game which I wouldn't agree to because it's wasteful.

But you finding this another good reason to add to the clandestine collection of good reasons to vote for Greywing, that you don't care to elaborate on, is yet another reason to vote you.
Also confronting you makes no sense because you chose to be the badass who responds emotionally to everything one might throw at you. So yes i'd rather hear form others who have been rather quiet.

[Arugula]

I'm leaning towards a LH town as well. Not in a newbie way though, except for that mafia rolecop thing. I think LH is a pretty strong player overall.

Buddying

[drmyshotgun]

@Loran: What's your read on Greywing?

@GreyWing: What's your read on Rofl?

I think he's town. And I think Chrimi is the Mafia Rolecop.

From Greywings (he was scum rolecop) and Blastoids previous game:

@Tierce: Why are you reading me as Town after 3 posts? I could be scum bussing.

From this game:

So, any explanations? Greywing must be town because you clearly seem to be scum.

While I appreciate you clearing me, that's hardly damning evidence either way. Mala could be scum bussing me, or it could be Town vs. Town. It's a mistake to assume that just become someone's pushing another, that both players are different alignments.

That's awkwardly identical. Don't know what to make of it

So you still think GreyWing is Town?

[Malakittens]

Gah worse timing for Greywing to go v/La. He's close to being Lynched, but can't actually put him to K
L-1 because he might get hammered before he gets a chance to claim.

[Greywing]

Mala, I'll be around for the next couple hours off and on.

Want me to claim?

[Malakittens]

Well right now it's stalled. Some people including I thinks your scummy. I rather not have someone lynch you while you are V/LA and risk losing a PR before you have time to claim properly.

[Greywing]

I'll save you the worry. I'm a VT.

[BK201]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: chrimi

I'm rolefishing.

[drmyshotgun]

BK's bullshit gambit to look more Townie is noted.

[BK201]

BK's bullshit gambit to look more Townie is noted.

Well you're wrong. I'm just buying the Day 1 VT claim is all, despite that game with Thomith its supposed to work most of the time right?

[roflcopter]

i had an early town read on bk but his recent contributions have severely shaken my faith in it.

and qft post 388

jal, are you always this mindlessly aggressive?

[drmyshotgun]

BK's bullshit gambit to look more Townie is noted.

Well you're wrong. I'm just buying the Day 1 VT claim is all, despite that game with Thomith its supposed to work most of the time right?

Gimmicks like that rarely help and it is just plain stuff-for-shows that gets us nowhere.

[Jal]

LH

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EBWOP: This is of course pure speculation again, which I'm stressing again .. I am terrible at. But I share it nevertheless because why not. Jal.. this is the first time someone calls me pro town. I'm flattered .. hope you don't turn out to be scum cause that would be demoralizing.

I didn't call you pro-town, just that you're leaning town to me and you're a stronger player than people give you credit for. People are calling you newb-town without much justification and are letting your actions off the hook based on this fact. Blastoide gives me the biggest newb-town vibe (despite the join date), yet people are pouncing on him. Odd.

I'm starting to believe some of the people writing off your actions as newbtown are scum who were initially trying to whiteknight you and potentially get towncred if the wagon went through and you flipped town more towards the beginning of D1.

The biggest problem with your Chrimi = mafia rolecop theory, is that Chrimi's actions can similarly indicate that he has a town PR rather than a mafia one. I don't subscribe to your theory either way, though.

i'd rather believe it means absolutely nothing other than for him bussing is a viable scum strategy right from the beginning of the game which I wouldn't agree to because it's wasteful.

You'd think so, but as scum I've certainly have done that. However, having both players trying to push each others wagons D1? I doubt it.

Aside from what you've quoted from Greywing, do you think Greywing's general playstyle is similar or different to how he's been playing this game?

Chrimi

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@Jal: It was a very obviously scummy response, I didn't know I would have an audience of nutbrains to entertain. I shouldn't need to explain.

I'm just a stupid little girl unaware of the strategy of mafia and scum hunting. Please indulge me.