Open 428 - Double Day Unlimited

[Whiskers]

In fact, I'll add to that: Lor. Why do you suspect VM is mafia?

[TheShadow]

VOTE: Loran

[Whiskers]

UNOFFICIAL, CAT-BASED, VOTE COUNT 1.01(.1)

Guy_Named_Riggs

: (L-5)

Loranthaceae

: Whiskers, VoidedMafia, Venrob, TheShadow (L-1)

PMysterious

: TheShadow, Loranthaceae (L-3)

SirBlayzalot

: (L-5)

TheShadow

: VoidedMafia, Venrob (L-3)

Venrob

: Whiskers (L-4)

VoidedMafia

: Loranthaceae (L-4)

Whiskers

: (L-5)

Xofelf

: (L-5)

I don't know how the randomization process of the roles works and why you got scum.. and I had my doubts at first but since you say you are scum, well, that settles it.

...Where's my desk when I need it. It needs to be introduced to my face...

I'm not pressuring for a vote, I'm just curious. Why wasn't this accompanied by a vote?

Actually...

Don't know what to think of Lor. Wanting to quicklynch this early and then decides to vote everyone. I'm so confused.

UNVOTE:PMysterious

Why don't you know what to think of Lor? I know what to think of her. Several of us know what to think of somepony that wants to quicklynch, then votes everyone. Why does she even want a quicklynch in the first place? Why is not THAT ALONE enough for you to put lots of pressure on her?

__

Agree with above post. The unlimited may be nice but it will be easier to find scum through VCA if votes aren't thrown all over the place

Also, everyone needs to vote no more than two people (or, pretty much only be on two badnwagons) until Mylo/Lylo, so that you can actually be held accountable for your votes. Yes, I know it's unlimited voting and all, but if you vote everyone and then one of them gets lynched (or "just happen" to be an early multi-vote from you onto 4-5 people and one of those gets lynched), then it can be difficult to actually pinpoint you as a suspect or even your overall influence on the lynch itself because you're all over the place.

Therefore, to quote CES from the first runthrough of the game:

Having 2 votes to use frees you up to do some interesting things. More votes than that and responsibility gets diluted.

That being said,

Unvote: Venrob

Link to that game please. Was CES scum, like you?

Anyway it makes sense.

UNVOTE: All
VOTE: Voidedmafia
VOTE: PMysterious

Doesn't this look a little bit like coaching? I know, Lor has quoted and responded to VM's post about only voting two players at a time, but it WAS the post

immediately

after GNR also condoned only voting two players at a time. It was ALSO later in the timeframe than the post where GNR says, "Idk what to do make of Lor. She's really scummy by wanting quicklynch and voting everyone, what's up with that? Unvote: someone else."

Now I AM pressuring you for a vote, GNR. Hammer your scumbuddy. I want to see the flip so these associative tells I've pointed out will have some value.

[Voidedmafia]

VOTE: Loran

Why? (granted, i'm not as pushy on this one because Loran seriously needs to die, but I still wanna know)

Whiskers, in his defense 59 was mostly before Loran became "needs to die ASAP" material, but I admit I'm not quite seeing the coaching angle.

[Loranthaceae]

Testament:
#1. You are not going to anything out of my lynch, absolutely nothing. Am I stupid for that?.. keep telling yourselves that.
#2. A quicklynch on PMysterious would've been awesome.
#3. Voided stopped it from happening, which makes him the lamest guy on this forum

GL HF, yours truly .. VT for roughly the 7th consecutive freaking time. Ok I was 3rd party once but I am cursed.

[Voidedmafia]

Testament:
#1. You are not going to anything out of my lynch, absolutely nothing. Am I stupid for that?.. keep telling yourselves that.

To the contrary, you flipping scum makes PM more likely to be town, though you flipping town doesn't really change my read on PM.

#2. A quicklynch on PMysterious would've been awesome.

When people get this eager for a quicklynch, that's pretty damn worrying. I'm still somewhat down for a PM lynch (though not as much as I was), just not this fast.

#3. Voided stopped it from happening, which makes him the lamest guy on this forum

...Because I'm cautious and don't want people from just slapping on votes and not expecting to be held accountable?

[Loranthaceae]

Testament:
#1. You are not going to anything out of my lynch, absolutely nothing. Am I stupid for that?.. keep telling yourselves that.

To the contrary, you flipping scum makes PM more likely to be town, though you flipping town doesn't really change my read on PM.

#2. A quicklynch on PMysterious would've been awesome.

When people get this eager for a quicklynch, that's pretty damn worrying. I'm still somewhat down for a PM lynch (though not as much as I was), just not this fast.

#3. Voided stopped it from happening, which makes him the lamest guy on this forum

...Because I'm cautious and don't want people from just slapping on votes and not expecting to be held accountable?

Let me get this straight. PM was your prime suspect but then I come in and want to quicklynch him. So now you have no problem with quicklynching me (I'm at L-1 right?). You can settle for a lynch on PM later but you want me dead right now. Where's your alleged cautiousness? You're a hypocrite and you're biased scum.

At least I have an excuse .. I was bored being not getting to play scum or PR, what's your excuse?

[Loranthaceae]

I thought I mentioned this but looks like I didn't. This is roughly the 7th consecutive time I am getting denied the privilege of playing scum or PR. I am cursed.

[xofelf]

Sorry, internet went down for a day or so. And Rob had it right, i was saying that i was busy so i misread stuff. I may have re-read to figure out where we are with things. Though if someone could help me with what's serious now and what's not, that would be awesome. i do know that most people are serious about Loran and Void, but is there anything else i missed?

[Agent_Ireland]

Absta101 replaces SirBlazyalot

As for vote counts. Will be doing one around 8 tonight. I do not have much time at the moment. I did not put one up yesterday due to the fact that there were so few post since the one before that.

[absta101]

Hello everyone!
I'll catch up now.

[Voidedmafia]

I thought I mentioned this but looks like I didn't. This is roughly the 7th consecutive time I am getting denied the privilege of playing scum or PR. I am cursed.

What the fuck does this have to do with anything? AtE much?

Let me get this straight. PM was your prime suspect but then I come in and want to quicklynch him. So now you have no problem with quicklynching me (I'm at L-1 right?).

Wanting you dead=/=wanting you quicklynched. Unlike you, while I do want you dead as fast as possible, I also want others to chime in on it. There is another dayphase if we lynch, yes, but not everyone's weighed in on your lynch yet.

You can settle for a lynch on PM later but you want me dead right now. Where's your alleged cautiousness? You're a hypocrite and you're biased scum.

You can keep misrepping me all you want, Loran. It doesn't help your case. Yes, I have said that I want you dead a couple times, but again, wanting someone dead based on terrible, scumtastic play is not the same as wanting someone quicklynchex because you're fucking

bored

. And if you're really that bored, go find another game where you might be scum.

At least I have an excuse .. I was bored being not getting to play scum or PR, what's your excuse?

So...Your excuse is that you don't want to play? Almost any other excuse is better than that.

i do know that most people are serious about Loran and Void, but is there anything else i missed?

Serious about me? Last I checked the only person wanting to lynch me was Loran himself.

[xofelf]

you were the only person i saw anyone serious on other than Loran. that's what i meant. Still need to do a re-read, but this is going to have to wait until after dinner and my son is asleep.

[Voidedmafia]

you were the only person i saw anyone serious on other than Loran. that's what i meant. Still need to do a re-read, but this is going to have to wait until after dinner and my son is asleep.

...Serious on as in willing to lynch?

[xofelf]

Yes. as in it's not a random vote.

[Loranthaceae]

@Voided Try to be less cryptic next time. AtE = airborne toxic event.. are you in a hurry? Spell it out goddamnit.

You have this wayward way of handling my posts, i don't even..
In all politeness I'd like to ask you to rewrite your post, reformulate it in order for me to understand your response to my allegation of you not being cautious at all by keeping your vote on me.
You say you don't like for people to not be accountable for their vote, well guess what. After I flip town you won't make heads or tails of this stupid bandwagon because everyone's obvious reason to vote me turned out to be a shitty reason after all shared by scum and town alike. So how can you differentiate?

You are being super careless, super hypocritical if you understand what I'm saying or super pants on head retarded if you don't. But I guess Alea iacta est so fuck it. GLHF agian.

@xofelf You post whenever you're ready, it's all good.

[absta101]

There's not enough actual content for me to get solid reads.

Can you guys hold off wasting a lynch for awhile

, I need to explore.
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@Voided

I'm still somewhat down for a PM lynch (though not as much as I was)

Based on what?
Also, at what time before were you "down" for a lynch of PM?

And if you're really that bored, go find another game where you might be scum.

This suggests you believe Loran to be town even though you want to lynch him. Why would you give him this advice if you think he's scum?

[Voidedmafia]

There's not enough actual content for me to get solid reads.

Can you guys hold off wasting a lynch for awhile

, I need to explore.

I don't think Loran's going to be lynched anytime soon, unless someone derphammers. But I also don't think everyone has actually weighed in on this, and that does need to happen.

Unvote: Loran

just to be safe.

@Voided

I'm still somewhat down for a PM lynch (though not as much as I was)

Based on what?
Also, at what time before were you "down" for a lynch of PM?

...Actually, I'll ned to get back to you on that. Something just twinged my gut at that point, though now I don't exactly remember what that was.

Also, just look at Page 2. No time to go and pull quotes for you.

And if you're really that bored, go find another game where you might be scum.

This suggests you believe Loran to be town even though you want to lynch him. Why would you give him this advice if you think he's scum?

Why does it suggest I think he's town? Regardless of his alignment or mine, I would say pretty much the exact same thing to what the line was replying to.

@Voided Try to be less cryptic next time. AtE = airborne toxic event.. are you in a hurry? Spell it out goddamnit.

...Go read the damn wiki.

You have this wayward way of handling my posts, i don't even..

It's called separating points. Pretty good thing to learn, yknow.

In all politeness I'd like to ask you to rewrite your post, reformulate it in order for me to understand your response to my allegation of you not being cautious at all by keeping your vote on me.

No. I'm not going to keep you post as one thing and reply like that. It makes looking for your points and what I'm replying to very annoying to find. Besides, you could stand to do some legwork, anyways.

Besides, I've already clearly isolated the points I'm replying to and given an appropriate response. Why are you so keen on wanting things to be confusing and less orderly?

You say you don't like for people to not be accountable for their vote, well guess what. After I flip town you won't make heads or tails of this stupid bandwagon because everyone's obvious reason to vote me turned out to be a shitty reason after all shared by scum and town alike. So how can you differentiate?

Because wanting a quicklynch is totally a shitty reason to vote someone?

You haven't explained why our/my reason(s) to vote you are shitty, btw. All you've done so far is AtE about not being scum which doesn't help you one bit.

Furthermore, ever heard of intentions (or the lack thereof)?

You are being super careless

How?

super hypocritical if you understand what I'm saying

Assuming I do, where?

or super pants on head retarded if you don't.

Assuming I don't, why?

But I guess Alea iacta est so fuck it. GLHF agian.

*twitch*

I STILL haven't really heard why you think I'm scum.

[Whiskers]

AtE =

airborne toxic event

Appeal to Emotion

Alea iacta est so fuck it.

Alea iacta est = ???
Voided is using pretty normal (mafiascum) slang. You're using... latin? that's latin, right?

I don't think Voided even has to address your points as deeply as he does. You're saying, "you're a hypocrite for wanting to quicklynch me!" and he's saying "your bad play is deserving of a quicklynch."

What SHOULD happen is, "You're a hypocrite for wanting to quicklynch me!" and he SHOULD say, "At least I want to quicklynch a specific player. You wanted a quicklynch, SO VOTED EVERY PLAYER."

In other news, how do you still have the "Goon" title if you've played in seven games? How do you not know what AtE is, if you've drawn Vanilla Townie seven times in a row? Are you an alt? Do you only play on EpicMafia.com? Actually, after we lynch you, I recommend going there. You'll get to be scum & PRs a lot more often, and you can whine and cry as much as you want, and it will be (variably) effective. I think the games there, will be much more your speed, where you can tell people they're retarded, and just ignore the game altogether if you draw the wrong role.

[Whiskers]

Also want to point out that replacement absta101 is
x) stopping the lynch on a scumbuddy, or
y) stopping the lynch to look cautious and wise.

absta101: Do you NOT think Lora is scum? I'm not requiring you to say you're sure one way or another, just for you to confirm that you are NOT sure she is scum.
I'm sure enough for a lynch.
You know, in this setup, town has considerably more control than other setups. Rather than lynching one and mafia killing one, we get to lynch TWO and mafia kills one. There isn't a huge incentive to wait until the end of the Day to use both of our lynches, and I should remind you: after the first lynch, our Day-time does

not

renew. I want to lynch Lora. We'll study the information

And that's why you don't want to lynch her yet, right? Because there's such minimal information we can analyse afterward?

Fine.

[Loranthaceae]

curious attempt at faking autism there, ey Voided I got nothing to say to that unorganized pile of wtf moments.


Pedit: my word, Voided. I've reread your posts and you have absolutely no right to call anyone stupid. No, not you. Anyone but you

Enthusiasm in the beginning of the game/RVS/RQS=/=enthusiasm at wanting a quicklynch.

Okay, PM can wait. You can eat rope.

basically you want to tell me that enthusiasm in the RVS or RQS is not equal to enthusiasm at wanting a quicklynch.
I've thought about this and I'll have to classify it as a brainfart. Because there's no way for this to qualify as an adequate response to this post of mine

I'm encouraging a quick lynch, whoever it is.
But I also feel like PMysterious is pretty scummy judging by his first post. I mean I saw my role PM and I was so bored, then I looked at the thread and this guy was saying hello to those 3 people and I was like ok I'll say hello to everyone because I'm a gentleman and I have to show how a gentleman has to behave.

Then saw PMysterious and there's just too much enthusiasm in that post. It's like my post but + a lot of naive enthusiasm which had to have a basis like getting one of the few scum slots

.

Not in this universe, not in the autism universe not anywhere.


And then what happened. I said ..

Vote for PM and let's get confirmed town status if he flips scum

.. and you said..

a)

What makes you think you'll be conftown?

b)

If he flips town, you're more likely to be scum;

c)

if he's scum, you're just lucky.

a)

[sarcasm] Yeah, like who in the world would consider me town if I kill one of the two mafia with about 5% time of day1 elapsed hmmm.[/sarcasm]

b)

obviously, why even mention this?

c)

lucky conftown
Is this your separating points technique at work here? Because if so you shouldn't plan on making a fortune coaching it just yet.

[Loranthaceae]

Also want to point out that replacement absta101 is
x) stopping the lynch on a scumbuddy, or
y) stopping the lynch to look cautious and wise.

absta101: Do you NOT think Lora is scum? I'm not requiring you to say you're sure one way or another, just for you to confirm that you are NOT sure she is scum.
I'm sure enough for a lynch.
You know, in this setup, town has considerably more control than other setups. Rather than lynching one and mafia killing one, we get to lynch TWO and mafia kills one. There isn't a huge incentive to wait until the end of the Day to use both of our lynches, and I should remind you: after the first lynch, our Day-time does

not

renew. I want to lynch Lora. We'll study the information

And that's why you don't want to lynch her yet, right? Because there's such minimal information we can analyse afterward?

Fine.

Jesus Christ Whiskers .. where the fuck does it say that I'm female? I can see I'm trying to fight windmills here.

[Agent_Ireland]

VOTE COUNT 1.02

Guy_Named_Riggs: (L-5)

Loranthaceae: Whiskers, Venrob, TheShadow (L-2)

PMysterious: TheShadow, Loranthaceae (L-3)

Absta101: (L-5)

TheShadow: VoidedMafia, Venrob (L-3)

Venrob: Whiskers (L-4)

VoidedMafia: Loranthaceae (L-4)

Whiskers: (L-5)

Xofelf: (L-5)

PMysterious has been prodded. He has 36 hours to post, due to the fact that he hasn't been on since the rule change

.

[Whiskers]

curious attempt at faking autism there, ey Voided I got nothing to say to that unorganized pile of wtf moments.

Normally I'd not get offended, but I don't like you, so: autism is not an insult. I'm insulted that you tried to use it as one.

Pedit: my word, Voided. I've reread your posts and you have absolutely no right to call anyone stupid. No, not you. Anyone but you

You have no right to tell him so.

Enthusiasm in the beginning of the game/RVS/RQS=/=enthusiasm at wanting a quicklynch.

Okay, PM can wait. You can eat rope.

basically you want to tell me that enthusiasm in the RVS or RQS is not equal to enthusiasm at wanting a quicklynch.
I've thought about this and I'll have to classify it as a brainfart. Because there's no way for this to qualify as an adequate response to this post of mine

I'm encouraging a quick lynch, whoever it is.
But I also feel like PMysterious is pretty scummy judging by his first post. I mean I saw my role PM and I was so bored, then I looked at the thread and this guy was saying hello to those 3 people and I was like ok I'll say hello to everyone because I'm a gentleman and I have to show how a gentleman has to behave.

Then saw PMysterious and there's just too much enthusiasm in that post. It's like my post but + a lot of naive enthusiasm which had to have a basis like getting one of the few scum slots

.

Not in this universe, not in the autism universe not anywhere.

Right... you're an idiot. This is pretty simple: Your reason for voting PM is that he had too much enthusiasm to lynch scum. Right? That's a little scummy. what's far MORE scummy is your enthusiasm to quicklynch

ANY

pony.

And then what happened. I said ..

Vote for PM and let's get confirmed town status if he flips scum

.. and you said..

a)

What makes you think you'll be conftown?

b)

If he flips town, you're more likely to be scum;

c)

if he's scum, you're just lucky.

a)

[sarcasm] Yeah, like who in the world would consider me town if I kill one of the two mafia with about 5% time of day1 elapsed hmmm.[/sarcasm]

b)

obviously, why even mention this?

c)

lucky conftown

Hey! You're wrong! If you catch scum in the first few hours of Day 1, then you're either:
a) really really lucky, or
b) you're scum.
Why? If it's so early in the day, how can you reliably catch scum? You can't. You're making a wild guess and, if you're lucky, you're right. But if you're scum, YOU ALREADY KNOW WHO THE SCUM ARE, and can tattle on them. Afterwards, you say, "look, look, I caught scum! I'm conftown now, right?"
Which is exactly what you're doing. You're saying, "If I catch scum, I must be conftown." If that were

really

what happened, then scum would out one of their buddies, be conftown, and ride to the endgame.

Is this your separating points technique at work here? Because if so you shouldn't plan on making a fortune coaching it just yet.

The "separating points technique" is at work

here

, in this post. Works pretty well.

Jesus Christ Whiskers .. where the fuck does it say that I'm female? I can see I'm trying to fight windmills here.

Jesus Christ Lora, where the fuck does it say I give a flying feather?
But, the way you're acting, I really

should

have suspected you were male.
Also, why bother quoting the post, or commenting on it at all, if you're not going to comment on anything

in

the post?
If you call anypony autistic again, I'll do what I can to get you thrown out as a violation of Rule 1. When I do, I'll point out that you're also posting in other languages than English (Rule 6).

[absta101]

Ooooooo. It's getting fucking tense in here.
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@Whiskers

Also want to point out that replacement absta101 is
x) stopping the lynch on a scumbuddy, or
y) stopping the lynch to look cautious and wise.

z) stopping the lynch because I just joined and I want to explore.

absta101: Do you NOT think Lora is scum? I'm not requiring you to say you're sure one way or another, just for you to confirm that you are NOT sure she is scum.

Okay, the case on her (just kidding xD) says he is scummy because he wants to quicklynch randomly yes?
1. That could be seen as scummy for reasons already stated.
2. That could be seen as town due to him being reckless which is a slight town tell.
Conclusion: null
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@Voided

...Actually, I'll ned to get back to you on that.

I'll be waiting. I expect your answer will determine my read on you. No pressure.
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There's like 4 of us present.