Open 429: True Love (Game Over)

[The Acting Method]

TeCH gives his thoughts, Venmar responds, TeCH answers then runs, no major changes from last time.
So far meh...
Om over exaggerating: Om why am I town?
Bitmap's big long post: Null.
101: Thanks for telling us.
Bitmap: At least with you he has provided some reasoning.
Okay Citysnake, Do you know how often an argument is actually Scum/Town when both parties are calling each other scum in a non lylo situation?
Oh really? so you have no thoughts on the big post I made when I voted you on the previous page?
PM, same question as I asked Citysnake: Really you have no reads on anyone else?
After this it's looking pretty much town.

No major read changes.

Okay so @ Citysnake: Is it possible that Om is town or Bitmap is scum?
Have you com across many instances where an argument is between scum and town? Also what do you think of this short read through and the longer one I did on page 4?

I'll probably do some individual Iso's next.

Also Bitmap, I've spoken out against it in the past but thanks for the unofficial vote count.

[Bitmap]

No problem, and sorry if I wasn't supposed to. I just wanted everyone to keep note so we don't have any accidental hammers.

And I want to hear more from PMyst before giving a big list of reads on everyone.

[Espeonage]

Votecount:

TeChNoWC: Venmar (L-4)
Venmar: Om of the Nom (L-4)
Om of the Nom: Junpei, citysnake (L-3)
PMysterious: TeChNoWC, Bitmap, The Acting Method (L-2)

Not Voting: PMysterious

That is correct as far as I can tell. Remember to unvote before revoting. I ask this so that I don't end up with people voting twice which happens alot before I made that rule.

[Om of the Nom]

My votes are wrong on both the votecounts :P
I'm voting Bitmap right now.

[Om of the Nom]

@TAM: You are town because you are :D

[Om of the Nom]

However, I just had a revelation and now I'm reading Bitmap as town :P
VOTE: citysnake
Considering I only had three scumreads, it's obvious who I'm betting is the partner (PMyst).

[Bitmap]

However, I just had a revelation and now I'm reading Bitmap as town

*scratches head*

Wat? Explain?

[Om of the Nom]

Idk, I think my gut may have been acting up :P

[Bitmap]

What makes you think PMyst is scum then?

[Om of the Nom]

Guys, I just remembered I played in another iteration of this setup.
As town.
Lover claims within the early game.
Scum lynched both days.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=22111
I think the wiki needs to be updated :P

PEDIT: PMyst is doing jack shit and is continuing to do jack shit even once called out.

[Bitmap]

Guys, I just remembered I played in another iteration of this setup.
As town.
Lover claims within the early game.
Scum lynched both days.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=22111
I think the wiki needs to be updated

PEDIT: PMyst is doing jack shit and is continuing to do jack shit even once called out.

I'll take a read through that game tomorrow. It's getting late here. However, there are still 4-5 losses on record in the wiki.

Also, I do agree, PMyst hasn't been doing much and that last comment of his doesn't go well with me since it had no substance.

[Espeonage]

My votes are wrong on both the votecounts
I'm voting Bitmap right now.

Read the rules.

[Om of the Nom]

Also please tell me I'm not the only one who finds it hilarious that citysnake is basing scumteams off connections when there hasn't even been a flip yet?
PEDIT: :/
UNVOTE:
VOTE: citysnake
Is that better?

Yes

[Bitmap]

Also please tell me I'm not the only one who finds it hilarious that citysnake is basing scumteams off connections when there hasn't even been a flip yet?

He seems to be pinning most of the scuminess on you.

[Om of the Nom]

Yeah, but that means he could be possibly leading onto a Venmar lynch if my lynch doesn't seem possible.

[Venmar]

Omnom / Citysnake Scum Town pair makes sense to me because Om is a Town Read and Citysnake is a Scum Read. I am comfortable with this lynch at the moment, but I might want to take a second look at PMysterious since I can see why Techno and some others are suspicious of him.

[Om of the Nom]

Yeah, lynch me and citysnake today, and PM goes tomorrow.

[Venmar]

Yeah, OmNom is town, scum wouldn't willingly sacrifice themselves like that.

[Om of the Nom]

Yep.
But a town read on me doesn't matter now anyway, as I'm dying today no matter what. I will not settle for a lynch on someone that isn't me or citysnake today.

[Bitmap]

Yeah, OmNom is town, scum wouldn't willingly sacrifice themselves like that.

Isn't that WIFOM?

Anyways, we aren't lynching anyone until we hear more from PMyst.

[Om of the Nom]

It doesn't matter if it's WIFOM or not. One of us is scum and we need to die today.

[citysnake]

Okay Citysnake, Do you know how often an argument is actually Scum/Town when both parties are calling each other scum in a non lylo situation

No, tell me.

Oh really? so you have no thoughts on the big post I made when I voted you on the previous page?

Not really. It's accurate as a summary but I can't get much more from it. The majority of your reads are null.

Is it possible that Om is town or Bitmap is scum?

It's possible but I think the reverse is more likely.

Guys, I just remembered I played in another iteration of this setup.
As town.
Lover claims within the early game.
Scum lynched both days.

I don't like the way he says "as town" here. It's not relevant to the post and the implication is that he's scum in this game.

[The Acting Method]

I was actually getting at that they both could be the same alignment. Notice I said OR not AND.

In other words, do you think it possible that they are both the same alignment?
(which from my experience is far more likely. I have rarely if ever seen an argument like that not be same alignment.)

So you didn't get anything from my reads with pretty much say: Bitmap, Om and Venmar are OBV. Town, Junpei is null and I'm leaning town on Tech.

So no opinon on the process of elimination that you and PM must be scum by process of elimination? And you clearly aren't reading as m

[The Acting Method]

EBWODP:

My reads aren't mostly null. I only have one null read and that's Junpei.

[citysnake]

Why do you think it's more likely that they're both town than that they're both scum?