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Post Post #400 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:32 pm

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I'll explain my DCL read further now, but I've just realised that it's void if Amrun is scum, and them being scum together is something I could definitely see according to DCL's play, but I have a town read on Amrun (although I don't think I've seen her as scum before).

Regarding DCL,

I agreed with what people said about , and his following interactions seemed scummy to me at the time, as if trying a bit too hard to look like a snarky townie.

I don't know if I can explain what I consider to be the towntell very well, but here goes.

Hypothetical Town-DCL reads through or whatever the situation and fairly easily understands what is going on, thinks that it should have been fairly easy for most townies to understand, and along with Amrun's abnormal reaction believes that Amrun is scum upset by Bitmap being confirmed town.

Scum-DCL is much less sure of what would and would not be a town reaction in the situation (so wouldn't know how likely it would be for town to understand), and is much more concerned about what people think of him. The combination of these two things make it unlikely that scum-DCL would attack Amrun with such confidence in this situation if Amrun is town.

MattP:
Why did you want me to elaborate?

Shamrock:
I'm sorry, I don't think your accusation of Amrun-scum is as bad as I thought it was before, but I don't agree that attacking someone in such a way is indicative of having made up one's mind, and I stand by my other points, especially the switch from amrun to vash while seemingly not attempting to improve your read on Amrun and giving up on her lynch earlier than I would expect.

DCL:
Why did you place Amrun at the bottom of your suspect list?

Scooby:
I'll respond properly now. It's something I often do when I replace in. I think there's only been one other game where someone's made a fuss, and I was scum there, so maybe you're onto something.
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Post Post #401 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:43 pm

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'All societies are historical' - Raymond Queneau


Votecount 1.8:


Vash (5): MattP, Bitmap, Staeg, Shamrock, ChaosOmega
Shamrock (2): Amrun, Deasvail
ChaosOmega (3): MichelSableheart, Quilford, IceGuy
MichelSableheart (1): scooby
Amrun (1): DCLXVI

Not voting (1): Vash

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is 8am (BST) on the 30th July

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Post Post #402 (ISO) » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:46 pm

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Amrun wrote:omg dv <3


And I forgot to respond to this and it's kind of awkward doing so now and probably even more awkward than not doing anything at all, but anyway..

<3

(I'm really hoping you're town now because this would be even more embarrassing if not)
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Post Post #403 (ISO) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:02 am

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DeasVail, I don't like you.

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I thought Amrun stood a chance of being scum because 1) I believed that there had to be at least one scum amongst the active players 2) I was getting gut tells off her language.

I don't think she is any more because my recollection of her is that she's considerably more aggressive and biting as scum and her posts seem well thought out, especially her reasoning on Bitmap waaay back.
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Post Post #404 (ISO) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:29 am

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Post Post #405 (ISO) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:42 am

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Quilford wrote:I don't think she is any more because my recollection of her is that she's considerably more aggressive and biting as scum and her posts seem well thought out, especially her reasoning on Bitmap waaay back.


When did you realise this?
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Post Post #406 (ISO) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:06 am

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Just then.
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Post Post #407 (ISO) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:16 am

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Fell back a bit, will catch up soon. I believe my vote is in the right place.
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Post Post #408 (ISO) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:17 am

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So do I! b(^_____^)b
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Post Post #409 (ISO) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:09 am

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DeasVail wrote:DCL: Why did you place Amrun at the bottom of your suspect list?


Because I always put the scummiest people at the bottom when I do reads.
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Post Post #410 (ISO) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:34 am

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DCLXVI wrote:
DeasVail wrote:DCL: Why did you place Amrun at the bottom of your suspect list?


Because I always put the scummiest people at the bottom when I do reads.


So basically, you do it the other way round than anybody else?

Or at least claim it when it's convenient because a wagon has formed?
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Post Post #411 (ISO) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:01 am

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DeasVail wrote:MattP: Why did you want me to elaborate?

Because I have a null-scum read on him, but your explanation doesn't change my opinion of him in the least.
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Post Post #412 (ISO) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:10 am

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IceGuy wrote:So basically, you do it the other way round than anybody else?

Or at least claim it when it's convenient because a wagon has formed?

Oh come on >.< This is the first attempt you've done at scumhunting and it sucks, find a better lead.
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Post Post #413 (ISO) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:24 am

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MattP wrote:
Oh come on >.< This is the first attempt you've done at scumhunting and it sucks, find a better lead.


Read my ISO. DCLXVI has been incredibly scummy since the beginning.
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Post Post #414 (ISO) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:25 am

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What am I looking for exactly?
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Post Post #415 (ISO) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:31 am

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Me scumhunting and me calling out DCLXVI.
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Post Post #416 (ISO) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:31 am

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IceGuy wrote:No, it's just that you're scum and it shows.


This is hardly scumhunting.
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Post Post #417 (ISO) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:34 am

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DeasVail wrote:
Shamrock:
I'm sorry, I don't think your accusation of Amrun-scum is as bad as I thought it was before, but I don't agree that attacking someone in such a way is indicative of having made up one's mind, and I stand by my other points, especially the switch from amrun to vash while seemingly not attempting to improve your read on Amrun and giving up on her lynch earlier than I would expect.


How is switching my vote to someone else I think is scummy "giving up"? What other arguments should I have made against Amrun?

p-edit: agree and was about to point that out. Is that really your idea of "scumhunting", IceGuy?
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Post Post #418 (ISO) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:34 am

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No, but the stuff before and after that is.
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Post Post #419 (ISO) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:39 am

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@ICE

you mean this?
IceGuy wrote:VOTE: DCLXVI

That's a bad push and you should feel bad.

And yes, as said above, I have an idea how a mass name claim could be beneficial; I'm simply asking if anybody has any reason in particular why we should not do it.

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Post Post #420 (ISO) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:40 am

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DCLXVI wrote:
try harder scum.


Since you've called me scum a few times now...why do you think I'm scum?
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Post Post #421 (ISO) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:46 am

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DCLXVI wrote:ICEguy piling on like that on bitmap is very scummy, along with asking for an obviously bad nameclaim leads me to say that I think a ICEguy lynch right now is the direction we need to be heading.
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Post Post #422 (ISO) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:48 am

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That is your entire case?
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Post Post #423 (ISO) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:00 am

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@ICE

how about you dig up a quote from your iso which has your case on me.
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Post Post #424 (ISO) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:10 am

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I don't think I need to make a case on you. You're doing it better than I ever could.
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