Open 421-Pamplona II: Electric Bullgaloo! Game over

[inte]

yeah, well nobody wants to lynch Rach for some reason that totally bewilders me

[UberNinja]

I have a question Uber I know you have a very good record on finding scum, but why are you so SURE that Inte is town? His posting has been chaotic at best and well rather annoying at times. The constant changes on his claim bother me.

Do you think scum goes out of their way to be chaotic/annoying?
Do you think scum would really bungle their claim(s) that badly?

Answer these questions, and you'll have answered yourself.

[drmyshotgun]

VOTE: Inte
I'll sheep on this.
I'll have Johnny's back right?

[McStab]

@DJD, Near: The argument of lynching out of the VT pool being better odds than lynching out of the PR pool is a myth. There is 2/6 (JF is cleared, and 95% chance of two scum) chance in the PR pool, and that means either 1 or 2/6 odds in the VT pool.

@UN - I'm not doubting your scum catching abilities, but I am questioning your logic abilities. I would rather take hard math over "gut" anyday. If you think you're dying tonight, I'd imagine you're wrong. I'm probably going to be strongarmed tonight unless we catch the JOAT, and I wouldn't be surprised if the/one of the real doc(s) gets killed as well.

Bitmap is the proper lynch today. If inte decides to lead us towards a mislynch he's dead the day after, and I'm perfectly content with going one-one on a scum-lynch. Near is probably the real doc, and DMS is more likely than Bit to turn the real doc.

[UberNinja]

Why does the BK wagon give you bad vibes? Because somebody other than you started it? Pshhhh

I can get behind wagons I dont start. This one feels wrong though since its noise driven. When wagons are noise driven they tend to be more likely mislynches unless its somepony who I trust a whole lot with being able to read correctly, which I dont in this case. Timing too of in the MIDDLE of massclaim also is a bit of a flag. Feel like it was an attempt to put brakes on it.

Plus BK is town if inte is scum, and inte is probably scum so im not touching the BK wagon.

Excellent. You've responded. You still haven't told me one pro-town thing BK's done, but I'll overlook that for now.

If you can get behind wagons you don't start, then this is 100% the time to prove it. This wagon is not noise driven in any respect. The only person vocal about BK's lynch is me, myself, and I. There is no rush for deadline. There is no OMGUS. There is no "I don't like you from another game so :angryface:!!!1" There is no elaborate trickery going on from my part; obviously I just hadn't read the game yet and now that I can I've found scum for you guys. I was busy before, I'm less busy now. There is literally no reason not to join this wagon. I have CALMLY and REASONABLY (heh ) explained why BK201 is scum. You should sheep me. Just think of how good it will feel when he flips scum and YOU were the one to say "Okay fine, I'll be on this wagon because I'm a boss." It will feel good

all over.

Additionally, I have proven I can be trusted to read correctly. Have you not read any of my posts with gratuitous links to past successes, and miss that I have read BK with 100% accuracy in the past? As for timing being in the middle of massclaim, obviously has to do with that being the point where I stopped being busy and came back to the thread after having prod-dodged almost exclusively for weeks on end. If you didn't notice that, you're more dense than I thought.

You should a) vote BK201, and b) stop being obtuse.

[drmyshotgun]

Everyone who has played with me before knows I'm not an idiot when it comes to finding scum. If you want proof read Open 398 or Open 408.

Fucking 5/5 scum lynches, all led by me.

This includes players like drmyshotgun and BK. Drmyshotgun was in both games, once as town and once as scum. RachMarie was in at least one of the games if not both. Why the hell they aren't sheeping me to high heaven, I can only imagine. One of them is probably scum with BK, come to think of it. HEHEHEHAHAHAHAHAHA

I was sheeping you on BK. You are hallucinating in this game.

[drmyshotgun]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: BK201

[inte]

the can only strongman if hes designated for the kill, unless you speculate we have a SK

[UberNinja]

Plus BK is town if inte is scum, and inte is probably scum so im not touching the BK wagon.

Also what the fuck is this? False dichotomy much?

BK is 100% fucking obvscum, and you're

ignoring it

because of bad town play by inte? You're fucking kidding me, right?

[BK201]

I have a question Uber I know you have a very good record on finding scum, but why are you so SURE that Inte is town? His posting has been chaotic at best and well rather annoying at times. The constant changes on his claim bother me.

Do you think scum goes out of their way to be chaotic/annoying?

Uber has and would.

his ISO as scum, LOTS of noise, exactly the same as here.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

Just read some of it, especially page 2 of that ISO.

[BK201]

Uber is 100% fucking obvscum.

[UberNinja]

Everyone who has played with me before knows I'm not an idiot when it comes to finding scum. If you want proof read Open 398 or Open 408.

Fucking 5/5 scum lynches, all led by me.

This includes players like drmyshotgun and BK. Drmyshotgun was in both games, once as town and once as scum. RachMarie was in at least one of the games if not both. Why the hell they aren't sheeping me to high heaven, I can only imagine. One of them is probably scum with BK, come to think of it. HEHEHEHAHAHAHAHAHA

I was sheeping you on BK. You are hallucinating in this game.

Until you left to join the derp-inte wagon.

Don't think re-voting for BK201 clears you, boyo!
But bussing your buddy is fine by mua so thanks

[BK201]

He knows I'm an easy mislynch and is just going to go after rainbow after me.

[BK201]

or drm or rach, whoever isn't scum with him.

[UberNinja]

Uber is 100% fucking obvscum.

hahahahaha

wait, remind me, when was the last time you said this?

OH RIGHT

[BK201]

I was mocking you.

[UberNinja]

He knows I'm an easy mislynch and is just going to go after rainbow after me.

or drm or rach, whoever isn't scum with him.

so who are my scumbuddies then?

OH WAIT, it's pure scum-OMGUS so you haven't thought that far ahead yet, amirite?

[UberNinja]

I was mocking you.

you don't have to pretend you don't want to be like me

it's ok, a lot of people do <3

[BK201]

You're scum who's shit isn't going to fly if you pass my mislynch. I know last time you did this same shit, passed a lynch or two purely by allcaps yelling derpness and eventually the town made you shut up.

Go die.

[BK201]

its all in that fucking gmae I linked.

[BK201]

Also like how opposed you were to the claim even while we had already started. I recall you said something like "Maybe I'm VT maybe I'm not". Scum saving a PR claim in case they need it. As town you know once we started we have no choice but to finish, also like how you're an idiot and didn't even READ rainbow's stuff until you calmed down.

[BK201]

Uber you better be scum. If you're town you are terrible and need to be humbled.

[inte]

really?

[BK201]

Questioning my read now after taking a closer look at that ISO. He did act derp derp but it wasn't all caps derp and not to this level of derp. He did reach this level of derp when he was protecting his scumbuddy Def3nd3r. allcapsnoise derpville. The lynch on the counter-wagon went through with that strategy and eventually he shut the fuck up.

[Rainbowdash]

@UN - You are saying that im ignoring BK, you are doing the exact same thing to inte. What do think of all the claims? How many do you think are scum and who are they most likely? If UN is scum its with a lynchable PR.

@inte - Despite there being quite a few differences between those games, I still dont think its possible you forget your role twice. The closest ive ever come to anything like that is having to look up my character name despite knowing the role, and once forgetting which scum partner had which role. I probably could tell you my role in any game over the past two years at this point if the game is named.

Still things that remain are

1) You proposed a plan that instantly gets DJD killed without catching scum
2) This

Plus BK is town if inte is scum, and inte is probably scum so im not touching the BK wagon.

what about the reverse? are you going to lynch bk when i flip town?

Almost feels like a misinterpritation scum slip
3) You are heavily pandering to UN who is the mane defender of you
4) The "BK used a L-1 sheep vote" is complete BS (this goes for UN too) because NO PONY is going to quickhammer. Making the vote L-1 if you even remotely think they are scum is going to get all sorts of awesome reactions. I still fully support that move from BK, especially as Bit was legit scummy early. I need to go check and see how many who are attacking BK think Bit is scum.
5) You invalidate the entire "my meta is derpy" defense/arugement yourself in this game
6) The "fixed claim" just still sounds like scum BS
7) The fact that it comes AFTER everypony else has tier claimed is worse (almost for sure exists)
8) The fact that it ALSO comes after three doctor claims is even worse (doctors are probable lynch pool)

All of the play from inte is just complete bull. Most of his arguement is attacking BK for something I really have nothing wrong with.

@BK - inte wagon. Lets go.
@DMS - Get back here.