Open 426: *Unspecified, as of yet* -GAME STARTED DAWGS

[Chrimi]

I believe Shotgun is doing it and therefore I'm moving him up in my scumlist.
And since I believe Chrimi is the buddy that makes him even scummier via synergy

I understand why you think Shotgun is scummy(Although I don't agree with you), but how would that make Chrimi his buddy? Can you please explain.. Considering Shotgun isn't voting for him. Please excuse my lack of logic.

As in Shotgun is trying to save Chrimi who he's overly protective of (I mean meta as justification? come on!) by mentioning the other extreme as a possibility (that there might be a lot of bussing going on)

Seems possible, except the whole logic part.

Y'know that part is kinda important.

By that, I mean in EVERY game people mention buddying and bussing a lot because they can be scumtells. I dunno what site you came from, but obviously they don't discuss about the game, they just sit there and twiddle their thumbs and randomly lynch people without logic ._.

[Chrimi]

That

reaction test of Chrimi:

It might be the fact that I'm hazy from being utterly flabbergasted at how amazing my new sneakers feel but I don't see why it qualifies as Chrimi's townieest post and why it makes Greywing scummy.
Explain to me your action and his reaction and how you (Chrimi) came to your conclusion. How does you mixing up Sci with Jal; and scum with town come into play here, if at all?

Spoiler: Chrimi's reaction test

Chrimi's action

Alrighty, here we go:

Shii's Town. It's pretty obvious.
Scigatt's leaning scum to me. He's posting regularly, but not really doing much regardless. He had a scum read on Chrimi, but suddenly dropped it after the "Town-tells" (which I still don't buy.) Other then that, he's trying to push for information, without providing much of his own.

As for those on the LV wagon:

I'm Town.
Jal's leaning Town, primarily due to his wall post that I read as legit scumhunting. I also like how he's pushed Shii, who's basically going to be unlynchable on D1. Scum would be going for the easy mislynches.
Arugula's leaning scum. This is mostly gut.
Gunny's leaning Town, also gut.
Chrimi's leaning scum. As I've already stated, I think the Town-tells have been forced, as well as his aggressive behaviour. Scumhunting's been pretty meh as well.

I'm still getting a scum-read on LV, but that's softening. Essentially, if Arugula and Chrimi are scum, they're not going to both jump on their partner. It doesn't make any sense.

I can see Sci/Chrimi/? due to the aformentioned debate between the two earlier.

I lol'd so hard. Nice one, if this was a joke.

I've already mentioned, my aggressive behavior was on purpose, I'm trying a new playstyle. Learn to fucking read.

Earlier you said you had a scumread on shotty for buddying with me, but now he's leaning town? Make up your fucking mind, please.

And if jal is your scum buddy, you should scream at yourself for giving that one away.

and

Mixed Jal and Scigatt, sorry.

Greywing's reaction

Mixed Jal and Scigatt, sorry.

You're right: Scigatt (now Uber) is scum. Get bussing, mate.

So, any explanations? Greywing must be town because you clearly seem to be scum.

While I appreciate you clearing me, that's hardly damning evidence either way. Mala could be scum bussing me, or it could be Town vs. Town. It's a mistake to assume that just become someone's pushing another, that both players are different alignments.

In the meantime,

VOTE: UberNinja

Chrimi, I expect you to sheep me so that you can get Town-cred when your partner dies.

Chrimi's conclusion

Mixed Jal and Scigatt, sorry.

You're right: Scigatt (now Uber) is scum. Get bussing, mate.

So, any explanations? Greywing must be town because you clearly seem to be scum.

While I appreciate you clearing me, that's hardly damning evidence either way. Mala could be scum bussing me, or it could be Town vs. Town. It's a mistake to assume that just become someone's pushing another, that both players are different alignments.

In the meantime,

VOTE: UberNinja

Chrimi, I expect you to sheep me so that you can get Town-cred when your partner dies.

Jal, just look at this post.

I never said that him or scigatt / uber were scum back them, I said that if he flips town

I presume you meant if he flips scum?

then he's a moron for giving away his buddy. The way he defended against that was hilarious, and obviously scummy. I wouldn't be surprised if I was accidentally spot on.

Then the second part, which is a sentence he has apparently said before in a game he was scum in.

If I really need to explain, then it's best off getting other people to help me vote him and / or Uber ._.

IYO what did scum Greywing say that town Greywing wouldn't have said and why?

You fail. So fucking hard.

The part where he was telling me to start bussing UberNinja for towncred isn't important.

It's the part where he VOTES UBER RIGHT AFTER I SAY 'Lawl you should scream at yourself for giving away you and your scumbuddy (Uber)'

Instantly, he starts bussing.

DOES THAT TELL YOU NOTHING?!

Brain-check, please.

[Chrimi]

Hmm. I'm still not sure about Greywing, part of my gut thinks he's town, but I got the scum feeling too.

Fencesitting.

Yes, but not in a scummy way. Why the hell would scum make a statement like this?

Because he's trying to bus his partner? I don't believe that Mala is scum at all, much less that greywing is his buddy, but yeah, it's something scum do.

I still don't think Chrimi is scum, I really don't. I'm getting the feeling of hunting from him.

Empty read. She provides no evidence of his "hunting". Scum can appear to scumhunt too.

While that's true, Mala's post 491 is clear evidence that she's town. Trust me. Never lynch her.

Über looks town, so going to hold onto that feeling until something changes my mind.

Says Uber is town, then says something can change her mind. Fencesitting.

Look at you, Mr. Confirmation Bias. Lay off Mala, she's town.

@Uber
Why Jal?

That's for me to know and you to find out.

Sheep me.

You're not going to get anybody without reasons, that's not how logic works, buddy.

My responses in bold.

[Chrimi]

@Greywing: I highly doubt with Arugula leading the Chrimi bandwagon D1 that they're scum together. Why Chrimi and Uber?

Chrimi/Arugula:

Arugula's not leading the bandwagon. Take a look at when he jumped on Chrimi. Notice how Chrimi was becoming a hot topic of discussion. I believe that Arugula decided to push Chrimi because he realized that it was a likely counterwagon for me, and it distanced him from Chrimi.

Besides that, Arugula's jumping like crazy without doing anything productive.

Chrimi/Uber:

Chrimi pushed Uber's predecessor, Scigatt, then called him Town and admitted to having nothing on him.

Since when did trying to find scum based on nothing become scummy?

Uber replaces in and

attacks

OMGUS'S

Chrimi hard

(Votes Chrimi for secretly FOSing him, whether he did or

not

. Chrimi OMGUS'ed

back

. Uber then dropped the case without any mention as to why, and tries to get Chrimi to sheep him on you.

Conclusion:

Chrimi's

Uber's

just obviously scum.

Lol
LOL
lawllawlafllalwlawrfkasldjg oaisjdf

Okay, post again after your doctor checks for brain damage.

I fixed the quote above for your brainless fuck.

Seriously, how did you come to the conclusion that I'm scum from that?!

[Chrimi]

Town:
Me (duh)
Gunny (Meta, chainsaw defending a town when he could get him lynched (me))
Blastoide (duh)
Shiidaji (duh)
Malakittens (Just cus)
Jal (Actually has reasons for voting me,

voted by a scummer for no reason who expects me to sheep

)

Null:
Arugula (Annoying, doesn't seem to actually be scumhunting, on the verge of being in the scumlist)
roflcopter (I usually agree with him, but he doesn't seem to actually be scumhunting, so null)
Loran (Just overall meh, Shown quite a few scummy things and shown quite a few towny things, so null)

Scum:
Greywing (Reaction tested, gave a scummy response that linked him to Uber)
UberNinja (Reason above, has Shiidaji as scum (derp) Lurking (Not his meta), expects me to sheep a town player without reason (Sorry buddy, being illogical isn't part of the new meta I'm trying))
BK201 (Lurking the fuck outta this game)

Updated.

[Loranthaceae]

By that, I mean in EVERY game people mention buddying and bussing a lot because they can be scumtells. I dunno what site you came from, but obviously they don't discuss about the game, they just sit there and twiddle their thumbs and randomly lynch people without logic ._.

It's just one of those speculation things I do so I don't mind if you start going apeshit about it. Although I wonder why you feel the need to dismantle this contraption and comment heavily on one part without considering the connection to the other. What I mean by this is you have to understand that it's not just the bussing .. it's advocating the idea of bussing while hardcore defending, based solely on meta arguments, that caught my attention.

[Loranthaceae]

because this way Shotgun can stay clear of mentioning anything incriminating about you (like the detrimental effect that your emotional thing, that lets you monopolize a whole page whenever, has on our discussion) and he can slither his neck out of a Day2 lynch just by saying .. "hey I only had meta arguments, how the fuck should I know he was in fact scum. You shouldn't have listened to me." if you flip scum.

Also think about the idea of bussing for a moment. He just found 2 scum right off the bat.., without really pushing anyone or having any kind of info from a previous lynch, how likely is that? Town has no reason to be this sure of anything.

[Chrimi]

He isn't 'advocating' the idea of bussing, he's discussing bussing because IT'S HOW YOU PLAY THE GAME. Discussing shit.


And you can say whatever you like about me and shotty, it's not going to get you anywhere. He knows my meta and I know his.

[Chrimi]

That

reaction test of Chrimi:

It might be the fact that I'm hazy from being utterly flabbergasted at how amazing my new sneakers feel but I don't see why it qualifies as Chrimi's townieest post and why it makes Greywing scummy.
Explain to me your action and his reaction and how you (Chrimi) came to your conclusion. How does you mixing up Sci with Jal; and scum with town come into play here, if at all?

Spoiler: Chrimi's reaction test

Chrimi's action

Alrighty, here we go:

Shii's Town. It's pretty obvious.
Scigatt's leaning scum to me. He's posting regularly, but not really doing much regardless. He had a scum read on Chrimi, but suddenly dropped it after the "Town-tells" (which I still don't buy.) Other then that, he's trying to push for information, without providing much of his own.

As for those on the LV wagon:

I'm Town.
Jal's leaning Town, primarily due to his wall post that I read as legit scumhunting. I also like how he's pushed Shii, who's basically going to be unlynchable on D1. Scum would be going for the easy mislynches.
Arugula's leaning scum. This is mostly gut.
Gunny's leaning Town, also gut.
Chrimi's leaning scum. As I've already stated, I think the Town-tells have been forced, as well as his aggressive behaviour. Scumhunting's been pretty meh as well.

I'm still getting a scum-read on LV, but that's softening. Essentially, if Arugula and Chrimi are scum, they're not going to both jump on their partner. It doesn't make any sense.

I can see Sci/Chrimi/? due to the aformentioned debate between the two earlier.

I lol'd so hard. Nice one, if this was a joke.

I've already mentioned, my aggressive behavior was on purpose, I'm trying a new playstyle. Learn to fucking read.

Earlier you said you had a scumread on shotty for buddying with me, but now he's leaning town? Make up your fucking mind, please.

And if jal is your scum buddy, you should scream at yourself for giving that one away.

and

Mixed Jal and Scigatt, sorry.

Greywing's reaction

Mixed Jal and Scigatt, sorry.

You're right: Scigatt (now Uber) is scum. Get bussing, mate.

So, any explanations? Greywing must be town because you clearly seem to be scum.

While I appreciate you clearing me, that's hardly damning evidence either way. Mala could be scum bussing me, or it could be Town vs. Town. It's a mistake to assume that just become someone's pushing another, that both players are different alignments.

In the meantime,

VOTE: UberNinja

Chrimi, I expect you to sheep me so that you can get Town-cred when your partner dies.

Chrimi's conclusion

Mixed Jal and Scigatt, sorry.

You're right: Scigatt (now Uber) is scum. Get bussing, mate.

So, any explanations? Greywing must be town because you clearly seem to be scum.

While I appreciate you clearing me, that's hardly damning evidence either way. Mala could be scum bussing me, or it could be Town vs. Town. It's a mistake to assume that just become someone's pushing another, that both players are different alignments.

In the meantime,

VOTE: UberNinja

Chrimi, I expect you to sheep me so that you can get Town-cred when your partner dies.

Jal, just look at this post.

I never said that him or scigatt / uber were scum back them, I said that if he flips town

I presume you meant if he flips scum?

then he's a moron for giving away his buddy. The way he defended against that was hilarious, and obviously scummy. I wouldn't be surprised if I was accidentally spot on.

Then the second part, which is a sentence he has apparently said before in a game he was scum in.

If I really need to explain, then it's best off getting other people to help me vote him and / or Uber ._.

IYO what did scum Greywing say that town Greywing wouldn't have said and why?

You fail. So fucking hard.

The part where he was telling me to start bussing UberNinja for towncred isn't important.

It's the part where he VOTES UBER RIGHT AFTER I SAY 'Lawl you should scream at yourself for giving away you and your scumbuddy (Uber)'

Instantly, he starts bussing.

DOES THAT TELL YOU NOTHING?!

Brain-check, please.

@Jal: Read the above for the reason Greywing's reaction was scummy.

[Loranthaceae]

He isn't 'advocating' the idea of bussing, he's discussing bussing because IT'S HOW YOU PLAY THE GAME. Discussing shit.


And you can say whatever you like about me and shotty, it's not going to get you anywhere. He knows my meta and I know his.

Based on that .. would you say that he is town. Why? Examples, if you would be so kind

[Chrimi]

I am positive he is town.

1. There are only a few amount of scum, and I'm pretty sure who they are already.
2. This is his town meta.

Loran, go look at any other game, people talk about bussing and buddying ALL the time because they're the main 2 town tells pretty much. It's obviously not him purposely putting forward the whole bussing thing while buddying me, it's regular discussion. This whole game I've seen you make cases out of unusual shit, it's bugging me.

[Chrimi]

EBWOP: This whole game I've seen you make cases out of *usual* shit, it's bugging the fuck outta me.

[Loranthaceae]

I am positive he is town.

2. This is his town meta.

So you don't care to elaborate on what his town meta consists of. It just happens to be this. Well listen up guy. If you are town then we are a team, and anything you know you are going to make an effort to let us know and understand also. I'm sick of you acting like this rogue Rambo who's figured this game out and doesn't even give a shit about calling for backup when he enters the Infernal Fortress. What's Shotguns town meta and what's his scum meta, I am going to read the games you provide as examples.

[drmyshotgun]

He isn't 'advocating' the idea of bussing, he's discussing bussing because IT'S HOW YOU PLAY THE GAME. Discussing shit.


And you can say whatever you like about me and shotty, it's not going to get you anywhere. He knows my meta and I know his.

Based on that .. would you say that he is town. Why? Examples, if you would be so kind

Since when was I your, or anyone's suspect?

[Loranthaceae]

He isn't 'advocating' the idea of bussing, he's discussing bussing because IT'S HOW YOU PLAY THE GAME. Discussing shit.


And you can say whatever you like about me and shotty, it's not going to get you anywhere. He knows my meta and I know his.

Based on that .. would you say that he is town. Why? Examples, if you would be so kind

Since when was I your, or anyone's suspect?

Since you replaced in. As mentioned before we had quality discussion going on from the very beginning resulting in wavering scum. So anyone replacing in has +1 scum karma in my eyes

[Chrimi]

I am positive he is town.

2. This is his town meta.

So you don't care to elaborate on what his town meta consists of. It just happens to be this. Well listen up guy. If you are town then we are a team, and anything you know you are going to make an effort to let us know and understand also. I'm sick of you acting like this rogue Rambo who's figured this game out and doesn't even give a shit about calling for backup when he enters the Infernal Fortress. What's Shotguns town meta and what's his scum meta, I am going to read the games you provide as examples.

Go look it up, stop being fucking lazy and blaming me for it.

[Chrimi]

Shotty, you're his suspect because he's fucking stupid.

Scumpoints for replacing? You're fucking kidding me right? If so, it's fucking hilarious, you should be a comedian. There are like 20 reasons to replace. I'll lay out the most basic ones.

1.Town that actually HAS A LIFE derp
2. Scum that actually HAS A LIFE derp
3. Town that doesn't like the setup so far
4. Town that doesn't like how the game is going so far
5. Scum that doesn't like how the game is going so far

That's pretty much it, besides replacing in has NOTHING to do with alignment.

[Chrimi]

I do care what his meta consists of, and THIS IS IT. If you can't fucking read his posts and look at other games, because you're too fucking lazy,

don't blame me for it

.

[Loranthaceae]

I do care what his meta consists of, and THIS IS IT. If you can't fucking read his posts and look at other games, because you're too fucking lazy,

don't blame me for it

.

I am lazy actually, but curious enough that I looked up this game where he was town and have found quite a difference in playstyle. Now send in your fluff because you are getting lynched today. Sayonara

[roflcopter]

why do people keep jumping off the greywing wagon?

@loran and chrimi, you guys are drowning the thread in posts, people are going to get frustrated wading through them all

could go for bk, but would seriously rather people stop being idiots and get back on grey

[Loranthaceae]

why do people keep jumping off the greywing wagon?

@loran and chrimi, you guys are drowning the thread in posts, people are going to get frustrated wading through them all

could go for bk, but would seriously rather people stop being idiots and get back on grey

What would it take to convince you to vote for Chrimi? I guarantee a Greywing lynch won't go through so all you are doing is trying to steer towards a no lynch and making useless comments along the way. I think we've reached a point where it's unacceptable to just enumerate reads. You have to fight for them.

[roflcopter]

i just don't see the case on chrimi. he's pretty obviously town. i'd vote him to avoid a no lynch, but thats it.

[Loranthaceae]

i just don't see the case on chrimi. he's pretty obviously town. i'd vote him to avoid a no lynch, but thats it.

Tell me your honest opinion. Am I a fucking idiot for giving a shit about this game and trying to find scum and get them lynched? How can you expect to make any positive contribution by simply saying you want this guy lynched and this guy protected without supplying any reasoning whatsoever? Why the fuck wouldn't town Chrimi give me at least a hint on what to look for when trying to figure out shotguns meta, and instead saying I'm stupid and lazy.

It's impossible for a townie to refuse to help others understand what they know about another player and simply shrug off their ambition to investigate. He's got over 100 posts and won't tell me what he knows about his buddies meta? Either he's a spoiled brat and enjoys putting others to work and laugh about their ambition or he's scum. And if he is a brat .. why would anyone want to play with him ever again after realizing this?

UNVOTE: Chrimi

I think you're all obviously scum and this is some kind of joke.

[Jal]

What is this clusterfuck?

LOL

u mad?

No.

@ Jal:

Greywing never 'challenged' me to put him at L-1.

At the time he was on V/LA and the lynch was basically stalled. I didn't want to put him to L-1 before he had time to claim and I wasn't sure if he was around or not to claim. I didn't want scum or town even hammering the last vote before he claimed because I was scared that Greywing could have a PR before he had a chance to claim it. Killing PR's isn't helpful to the town.

Basically I was trying to get some activity in the thread because it died. >.>

That's great. Except, I was speaking of Greywing's actions only and why it made

him

look townie.

[Jal]

@Rofl

could go for bk, but would seriously rather people stop being idiots and get back on grey

I see a bunch of people saying to vote for Grey but with little reasoning to do so, except perhaps from Chrimi. So why are you voting for him and why should I?

What do you think of what I said before regarding Greywing looking townie with his exchange with Mala?

@LH

Let's just set the record straight. Gunny is town. I've seen Gunny scum. I've seen Gunny town.

THIS

is Gunny town. Hyperion was scummy as shit and barely anyone said anything. But you guys jump onto

this?

Really? He was also defending Chrimi earlier in the day but suddenly it's an issue now?

LH, tell me how that other game indicates Gunny is different because I'm not seeing what the hell you're talking about.