Open 428 - Double Day Unlimited

[Voidedmafia]

Proving yourself to be town is useless. You have to prove to us you're town.

That's how the game works, derp.

Whiskers: Oh, fine, gimme a minute.

[Voidedmafia]

Post 13 is where I voiced any opinion about wanting to get PM lynched. Possibly passed over, as it was still somewhat in RVS, but I did consider at least semi-serious. A more "serious" place would be around 37.

Happy, now?

[Whiskers]

That should be good enough for absta.

I can prove my self town.

Please do so now. We could use a confirmed town player or two.

[PMysterious]

Well, I can say I am a Vanilla Townie. I have the role PM. (which I can't show for obvious reasons) That's my proof.

[Whiskers]

Uh.
If that's the criteria, then yes, I can prove I'm town. See? I claim to have a Town-aligned role PM.
That's my proof.
Now that we're confirmed town to each other, let's find scum, yes?

[PMysterious]

Indeed we shall.

UNVOTE: Whiskers

[Voidedmafia]

Indeed we shall.

UNVOTE: Whiskers

So, other than sitting on your hands and chanting this "I'm a VT" mantra over and over to yourself, are you actually going to do something?

(Don't fall for his lies, Whisky. We know naught of his true intentions.)

[PMysterious]

What? No. I would never lie about a VT role. They are known as the (safe-lynches).

[Voidedmafia]

What? No. I would never lie about a VT role. They are known as the (safe-lynches).

...Not...the...fucking...

point

.

[Voidedmafia]

Also, that was a

joke

.

[Whiskers]

(Don't fall for his lies, Whisky. We know naught of his true intentions.)

(It's cool. Now that I'm confirmed town to him, he can't vote me anymore.)

[Voidedmafia]

(Don't fall for his lies, Whisky. We know naught of his true intentions.)

(It's cool. Now that I'm confirmed town to him, he can't vote me anymore.)

(I'm still worried for you, though. What if he NKs you?)

[absta101]

wow...
Who agrees with a lynch of the Shadow or PM?

[PMysterious]

I agree with one on Shadow but not one on me.

[absta101]

Requesting a VC

[Agent_Ireland]

VOTE COUNT 1.04

Guy_Named_Riggs: (L-5)

PMysterious: Absta101, (L-4)

Absta101: Whiskers, VoidedMafia (L-3)

TheShadow: VoidedMafia, (L-4)

Venrob: (L-5)

VoidedMafia: Absta101, (L-4)

Whiskers: (L-5)

CryMeARiver: (L-5)


I apologize for not being on the past few days. I have had a lot of stuff come up lately. I believe that it is all settled now. I will try to post vote counts a little more frequently now.

[absta101]

Why are you voting me Voided and Whiskers?
UNVOTE: Voided
VOTE: The Shadow

[Whiskers]

Because I think you're scum. Put shortly, you took the opportunity to lurk and then threw a vote on the wagon at the end with no explanation. I believed the slot was scum, but by the end I was willing to force replace him (if Irish even does WotC) and lynch whoever replaced in.

Why are you unvoting Voided?
Why are you voting TheShadow?

[absta101]

Because I don't think scum are in us three anymore. Pressure needs to be applied on the actual lurkers.

Put shortly, you took the opportunity to lurk and then threw a vote on the wagon at the end with no explanation.

1. I only lurked when you guys were fucking around with Lora.
2. I have explained my vote. I did it because he was being destructive.

I suggest you unvote me and vote Shadow. He fits your profile for scum.

[absta101]

If he complains, I'll just point to my Qs.

This implied you were voting me for pressure so I would answer your questions.
--

In that case Voided you can unvote me and vote PM.

[Whiskers]

Ways I think mafia could be taking advantage:

1. Add a vote of support then lurk.
2. Stay off the waggon completely.

This is absolutely fucking tricky. Everytime I come to it and try to apply it to you, or even take it out of context, it doesn't

quite

fit. You lurked, then added a vote of support. You stayed off the wagon completely, then hopped on at the end.
Idk, I still count it. What you did is something mafia could do to take advantage! Idk, it's just how I see it.

Can you make a better case? will you have the time?


The fact that you "only lurked when we were fucking around with Lora" means that you were doing what scum should have done. Right?
I dunno. I guess my case on you isn't very strong, but can you make a better one?
Also, why do you want to go after lurkers? I thought you wanted (or were willing to settle for) one policy lynch, and one real lynch.

[absta101]

Also, why do you want to go after lurkers?

PM and Shadow are very likely lurking scum.

I dunno. I guess my case on you isn't very strong, but can you make a better one?

That's not a reason to keep your vote on me.

I can sense that you don't feel strongly that I am scum. You're letting paranoia get the better of you, that's why you're still voting me.

A vote from you on either PM or Shadow would greatly support us in getting their lynch due to the fact that you're pretty much confirmed town to everyone. Unless you think my level of input is less than theirs, you would vote them.

[Voidedmafia]

Why are you voting me Voided and Whiskers?
UNVOTE: Voided
VOTE: The Shadow

Such an ignorant question deserves no answer.

*(ISO)* me, boi.

In that case Voided you can unvote me and vote PM.

Lolno.

[absta101]

You voted me to help apply pressure.

If you keep your vote I deserve an explanation.

[Whiskers]

you're pretty much confirmed town to everyone.

Great, so this is my last game day-- I'll start looking for another to replace into.

I feel weakly that you're scum but it's a stronger feeling than any other. I am fighting paranoia about VM. PM could be mafia-- he did flip scum in that other game I referenced where his behaviour was similar. But I was kind of holding to the theory that PM is an honest-to-goodness Village Idiot. I don't know about TheShadow. I have a townfeeling on him, but iirc it's entirely gut.

It seems to me that you want to policy lynch a lurker. You do say that PM and TS are "lurking scum," but you also say I should vote them unless I think your level of input is lower than theirs. Do you not realize I'm not voting based on "level of input"? That would be a policy lynch.

However: In the other game, PM was reduced to defending himself with accusations like, "You just hate Jigglypuff!" It's a similar, improbable idiocy that agrees to be confirmed town with me because we both claim to be town. To each other. I'm suspicious because, while he could just want to live through the Day, wouldn't it be even easier if he gets written off as town? Then kill whiskers during the night?
Also: VoidedMafia has pretty much been a second vote for me. I

feel

like he wants to please me-- because that will get him protection. During Lora, he backed me up and even repeated me sometimes. There was at least once where he said, "I've been saying this throughout the whole game," so I realized I'd repeated

him

, so brushed it off. But now, he is voting you-- much like you said, as a pressure vote, because I asked him to. He even goes farther, kind of antagonizing you by not answering your questions. Before, there was a legitimate (I felt) reason for it, but now he's just being lazy? But in being lazy, he's supporting the almighty Whiskers, in her infinite wisdom. Whiskers says absta is scum, I shall bully him! Praise be to Whiskers!

That's paranoia.
absta: Look into possible scumteams or just possible scum. I'm highly suggestible, so if you can make a good case, I am as likely to rip it apart for inconsistencies as I am to sheep it.