History Mafia Mini Theme - 1358 Game Over!

[MattP]

vote: 666

will explain after LoL game, but this guy is practically mod-confirmed scum

Staeg is not scum

[Bitmap]

VOTE: 666

[Staeg]

vote: 666

will explain after LoL game, but this guy is practically mod-confirmed scum

Staeg is not scum

is not a vote for 666

[MattP]

Shhhh

[Bitmap]

I'm surprised. Why am I still alive?

[MattP]

Because Its not like you'll be able to direct any lynches

And you're perfect for scum in lylo because you'll probably mislynch

[Bitmap]

Because Its not like you'll be able to direct any lynches

And you're perfect for scum in lylo because you'll probably mislynch

Dawg, I ain't gonna mislynch.

[DCLXVI]

Staeg is not scum

Agreed, scum would not act like that towards my claim.

@Bitmap, you still are town, stop being a sheep and think for yourself.

@Staeg.

The flavor should be obvious to anyone with a middle school knowledge of history. Why I claimed is also fairly obvious. But I'll explain to make sure you get it.

Flavor, I'm viewed as a bad guy cause I got rid of the roman senate and made myself a dictator. But I actually saved Rome so in reality I'm a good guy , comprende?

Why I claimed, this part is even more obvious. I'll just link to the wiki for it. miller

The reason I didn't claim day one was because I didn't want to get offed right away night 1, my plan then was to claim immediately day 2 which I did.

[MattP]

Bitmap, who are the two remaining scum and the SK

Pedit: I believe staeg.

[DCLXVI]

Bitmap, who are the two remaining scum and the SK

You counted wrong.

[DCLXVI]

McStab - Joan of Arc - Mafia Goon - Lynched Day 1.

four scum in a mini would be very overpowered.

[MattP]

I meant I believe. 666

[MattP]

Bitmap, who are the two remaining scum and the SK

You counted wrong.

One scum has flipped. There are three scum and a SK. That is a standard setup

There are almost never two scum in a 13p game

[DCLXVI]

Really? that seems like way to much scum for a game. Even with the possibility of a crosskill I can't imagine that would be balanced.

[MattP]

Meh it's balanced

There are prob two goons and a godfather

[Staeg]

666... I don't understand why you would be sad to get NK'd as a miller. A negative role. Why, then?

[MattP]

Oh yeah I forgot tO brag about being right about vash

Sooooo HAAAA I FUCKING TOLD YOU ALL

[Staeg]

Oh yeah I forgot tO brag about being right about vash

Sooooo HAAAA I FUCKING TOLD YOU ALL

hey no way in fuck are you taking all the credit for that

[MattP]

Yep

[Shamrock]

DCL could you briefly summarize why you think IceGuy is scum?

[MichelSableheart]

@666: you did not claim on day 1 because you didn't want to get nightkilled... as a miller, when your role indicates that a cop is highly likely to be in the game. Why on earth wouldn't you want to get nightkilled there? If you get nightkilled, then you know that more important roles (any vanilla townie, for example, who can be cleared by a cop, or perhaps even the cop himself) stay alive. But also, why would mafia nightkill you if you claim miller? It's not like you become confirmed town or something, and they'll know you're not a powerrole.

But there are more problems I have with that claim. First, Quilford flipped tracker, and IceGuy claimed to be able to get info from nameclaims. I really don't see enough room to also have a cop in a mini, which makes it doubtful that there is a miller in the game. Furthermore, McStab flipped Joan d'Arc. Now I'm no specialist on her, but I don't really see how she could be seen as a bad guy. Which makes the flavour of your miller claim dubious as well.

Vote: DCLXVI

I can see 10:2:1, 9:3:1 and 9:2:2 as balanced. Not sure why MattP immediately assumes 9:3:1, nor why 666 considers it impossible.

Looking at the interactions at the end of day 1, I must say that McStab's flip makes MattP more likely town. He was the one who revitalized the wagon close to deadline. If he was McStab's partner, he could easily have chosen a different target, IMO.

ChaosOmega remains a good lynch. The nightkills are a slight mark against DeasVail and Shamrock respectively.

[IceGuy]

VOTE: DCLXVI

I agree with MichelSableheart.

[DeasVail]

Shamrock:

I didn't have much of a scumread on McStab and had michel and yourself as reasonable scumreads. The Chaos thing was actually only a question. I didn't have much interest in lynching him.

I think the miller claim from DCL is bad, and I like the wagon, but am not joining it until I get the chance to read over things.

[ChaosOmega]

Quilford flipped tracker, and IceGuy claimed to be able to get info from nameclaims. I really don't see enough room to also have a cop in a mini, which makes it doubtful that there is a miller in the game.

We don't know if IceGuy is town, but if he is, this is very true.

Claiming miller D2 without being under pressure as opposed to the start of the game is odd at best. Also, I can definitely see scum leaving IceGuy alive and trying to pull the case that they claimed PR and didn't die, especially since in IceGuy's case, his power couldn't be used to its best use, making it not very dangerous to keep him alive.

vote: DCLXVI

L-1 by my count.

[Shamrock]

I do like the DCL wagon. I found his aggressive press on IceGuy at the end of D1 to be pretty scummy and Michel raises a good point about the plausibility of his claim, not to mention that we lose little even if he is telling the truth. I also missed his reasoning on waiting until D2 to claim, which is bizarre and I'd love to hear an explanation of why scum would want to take out a miller (or were you worrying about being vigged?) as well as an explanation of his scumread on IceGuy which I don't buy at all and which I haven't seen him explain anywhere.