WWE Attitude Era 2.0 Game over nWo'd

[The Gobbledy Gooker]

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You're going after the weakest target becuase his play was different and bad and not bothering to consider whether it was actually scum motivated. Oh and your two latest posts make less sense than the Katie Vick storyline.

I really hope inte actually is a vig and shoots at us and gets blown up because he's the type of player who does two things well: suck and die. And we've got enough players sucking around here.

[pappums rat]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: pappums rat

For the love of God, don't metagame, you assclown.

Is using meta a scumtell now? If so, what makes my use of meta scummier than DavidX's?

CJMiller- 3 posts, 3 votes, 0 scumhunting.

[Lance]

Sawyer has a grand total of two bloody votes on him. You call that a bandwagon?

There was a lot of negative feeling around him when you hopped on all happy. It all adds up.

Eh, if you say so. I don't seem to recall "a lot of negative feeling" on Sawyer at the beginning of the game when I voted for him, but your definition of "a lot" may differ from mine.

Lance or IaI are great lynches for today.

What's your case on I Am Innocent? This is the first time you've mentioned him all game.

[I Am Innocent]

@IAI-safe claims are you know claims that are safe. I'm relatively certain you've been scum in a game of mafia before so you claiming

NOT

to know what a safe claim is seems kinda off.

Never heard the term before. I've heard fake claims, it sounds like the two are synonomous.

1.

UNVOTE: IAI, LEG DROP (Vote): Inte

The whole Vig claim and back out is extremely scummy. My read on that turn of events is that Inte thought it'd be a good fake claim to go with as scum until he realized that it was extremely problematic in combination with a PGO. Not only was his claim going to be tested, it also opens up the design for an absurd amount of Kills night 1. I think at the point he realized that he needed to retract his claim. I don't buy, the "Oh, I was just kidding" excuse.

2. Admiral's bash and stroke of Snake is a contradiction no mater how he defines the term, "First Impression".

Chop (FoS): Admiral

3. I think Pidgey's "fishing" was too bold to be scum. I think scum would probably avoid that scrutiny at all costs.

4. Nero, are you still mad at me from Star Wars?

1) Disagree. No point to draw attention that early for scum.

What benefit did inte get by claiming vig?

What is the scum motivation there, cause I don't see it.
2) Disagree. Admiral has come off as town to me.
3) No, unlike TGG and inte who were obvious about drawing their attention, Pidgey's fishing felt more subtle. So I think you have it backwards actually.
4) Don't care about.

Probably is awesome since he is from ROH, but when i joined an attitude era game i expected wrestlers like brethart, austin, taker, new age outlaws, etc, along with newer talents like cena, del rio, etc. So you can see my surprise when i got someone i have probably only read his name and never watched in action.

And you are probably right in that he is better than 80% of the roster. Independent wrestlers are generally great, they just dont commonly sell money that well.

Question for everyone not named pidgey...Did you really care what wrestler you got?

@IAI-safe claims are you know claims that are safe. I'm relatively certain you've been scum in a game of mafia before so you claiming

NOT

to know what a safe claim is seems kinda off.

Yeah, that set off my scumdar as well.

So you think I have heard the term safe claim before, lied about it, and the scum motivation is what again???

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David's 180 feels off to me.

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By the way, Internet Stranger is playing exactly as ive always seen him play, and he has been town on those other ocations. Later on he'll focus on a player and wont rest until that said player is lynched.

But I do agree that we are out of RVS.

And you gathered this from his one post where he says he is basically not ready to play yet?

[WrathChild]

@IAI: I already explained the scum motivation behind claiming Vig, but will again:
1 (NEW). Scum claiming vig have no risk of being shot because of it
2. Scum claiming Vig can make NKs with risk of being tracked or watched as long as they can justify it as a vig shot.

Inte's claim was ill-conceived no doubt and if he would have just went back on it right away I would have had no issue, but he rode with it long enough to imply that it was a serious claim. He only backed out because people jumped on his Kamakazi attack on GG suggestion. If no one had supported that idea like he was probably hoping for, then I doubt he would have backed out.

This is a contrast to Pidgey's OBV fishing (also, in my opinion, sufficiently explained by Pidgey) which is a much faster death sentence to scum than claiming vig.

[I Am Innocent]

@IAI: I already explained the scum motivation behind claiming Vig, but will again:
1 (NEW). Scum claiming vig have no risk of being shot because of it
2. Scum claiming Vig can make NKs with risk of being tracked or watched as long as they can justify it as a vig shot.

Inte's claim was ill-conceived no doubt and if he would have just went back on it right away I would have had no issue, but he rode with it long enough to imply that it was a serious claim. He only backed out because people jumped on his Kamakazi attack on GG suggestion. If no one had supported that idea like he was probably hoping for, then I doubt he would have backed out.

1. I have never seen a game this large with only 1 NKing faction. Either multiple scum teams, or an SK (or both). Either/both of which would see a town vig as a threat to get rid of. So I don't agree.

2. This makes no sense when combined with #1. So you think there is only 1 scum team, hence 1 NK. And at night then, the scum is going to pretend to be a town vig and make the only night kill??? Wouldn't the absence of a "scum kill" be kind of obvious???

2. Also, if the scum claiming vig is going to justify his kill as a vig shot, he needs to target non-townie type players to make it believable. Not a good strategy for scum to box themselves into on Page 1 imo, as the townie players who will never be lynched, will also never be nk'd.

This is a contrast to Pidgey's OBV fishing (also, in my opinion, sufficiently explained by Pidgey) which is a much faster death sentence to scum than claiming vig.

If it is such a much faster death sentence, why did the Pidgey wagon never go beyond 4 or 5 votes?

And why would it be a much faster death sentence to scum than town? I would think the other way around as scum would protect their scumbuddy by not voting him for that...(which goes along with the prior question of why the wagon stalled)

[jasonT1981]

Day 1 Vote Count 4

Inte 3 - PranaDevil,Elmo,WrathChild
Lance 2 - Gobbledy Gooker,sawyer,
Pidgy 2 -I Am Innocent,DavidX
Elmo 2 - pappums rat, Nexus,
CJMiller 2- SnakePlissken,Inte,
Sawyer 2 - pidgey,Lance,
DavidX 2 - Yates,forehead7,
PranaDevil 2 - ThAdmiral,PereV,
PappumsRat 1 - CJ Miller
Nexus 1 - Nerodoesthesplits
InternetStranger 1- PMysterious

Not Voting

Internet Stranger

With 21 alive it takes 12 to lynch. With a 21 day deadline.

(expired on 2012-08-18 10:34:53)

till Day 1 Deadline

[Nerodoesthesplits]

I'd like to hear others opinions on that catch by David as well actually. I'm surprised there's not been more response about it.

Its only a "scum slip" if he is scum. We have a slight town read on the slot. Nero's not to fond of the people voting/were voting him. Thats said Nero is sick of the slot since its raging and being stupid.

i never get people that lurk till no end

at the very least they waste time and one of town's lynches

I much pefer lurking over useless spamming.

And now Snake ignores my question....

inte, who are your top 5 scum reads?

This is a contrast to Pidgey's OBV fishing (also, in my opinion, sufficiently explained by Pidgey) which is a much faster death sentence to scum than claiming vig.

Do you think that only scum rolefish?

It seems to me like you are fence sitting on pidgey. I see alot of reasons why you think he might be scum but why he might be town.

[SnakePlissken]

Eh what question?

[Internet Stranger]

Inte and Pidgey are just loudmouths.

Sawyer and maybe the Admiral are hanging around just enough to hope to avoid scumdar pings

For saying so little CJ and Xanatos manage to make themselves suspicious.

[Nerodoesthesplits]

What do you think of Nexus, IS?

[Nerodoesthesplits]

Also,

Russian Leg Sweep CJMiller

came in threw down a vote on Pidgey and left. reasoning for a vote - sheeping. Something I've studied in the art of recently.

So CJ leapfrogs over your top 3 scum reads. Explain.

[pidgey]

IaI - I have played twice with IS. Once in a game called DC Universe, another in New York 144. Both times, he started the game saying he hates RVS, he doesnt give a shit about RVS, and later on he focused on a player he thought was scum and tunneled the hell out of them. So yeah, from his one post where he says he is basically not ready to play yet, I gathered that information. I dont agree we are in RVS at all anymore though.
Anyway, do you like being a dick and asking questions that make you look so sure of yourself? How about you give me your opinion on IS?
How about this IaI? You say I was 'subtle' about the way I fished. You keep saying how 'scummy' my actions have been. Vote me. Put your money where your mouth is. If you think your case on me 'fishing for flavor names which have nothing to do with game related content according to the mod rules' is good, go ahead.

If it is such a much faster death sentence, why did the Pidgey wagon never go beyond 4 or 5 votes?

Because my wagon was full of failute and everyone with half a brain, town and ESPECIALLY SCUM, would know that it was pretty fucking stupid and once i flipped theyd be the first who would be to blame.

Nero- Point exactly at a post where I "

rolefish

". Notice the word i bolded.

Also, meta cases are shit, people play differently, get over it, everyone. I can say fucking once, ten times, or never, and it doesnt mean anything about my allignment.

I think that inte claiming a vig if he is part of a scum team is rather stupid, even if the way he unclaimed was also very stupid if he was town or scum. overall i find this slot to be kinda town. Dumb at the moment, but still town for now.

[Nerodoesthesplits]

I never said that you were rolefishing you stupid fuck.

Annoyed Nero is annoyed.

[pidgey]

[Nerodoesthesplits]

vote:pidgey

ALL ABOARD THE IDIOT WAGON!!!

[pidgey]

Thats a very nice reason to vote for someone.

Anyway i just thought 232 was you saying I was rolefishing.

[pidgey]

(And then posted a nice pic of a little kid I found in google images)

[Nerodoesthesplits]

This whole obtuse/obnoxious gimmick you have going on is just dumb and annoying. Personally I don't really care if you are town b/c playing with derps like you is just tedious either stop it, replace out or man up and take the day 1 lynch.

[pidgey]

How am I playing dumb and annoying? Have you never missunderstood something someone has said in a sentence?

Tell me exactly how is my play more derp than CJMiller, Inte, TGG.

Nero Cain Ive played with you before on DC and theres no way you are this bad, so dont be a fucking prick about me posting a stupid image. This is a game and yeah I take it serious Ill never go and spoil it for anyone or

[pidgey]

*continued, accidentally pressed post

- throw it away just because im pissed. But just as I get pissed at times, i also try to have fun, no matter what allignment.

If someone posting a picture makes you want to lynch a player, no matter if he is town, then YOU are the one that not only should replace out, but drop out the game of Mafia complitely out of your life.

[Nerodoesthesplits]

There's nothing to get pissed off about. So people suspect you? Big fucking deal? Man up and play and stop whining and crying like a baby. Read your own posts dude, all your posts you come off as angry and annoyed and I cringe each time I have to read your pissed off bird shit.

As far as the image thing goes; you posted that to imply I was some kinda wannabe bad ass (I see it all the time in other games) and I'm not to happy that your being all smug about it. All you had to do was say "opps I'm sorry." Therefore I don't care about PLing you today.

[pidgey]

It was actually just an image that i threw as a for fun thing. How in the world would you know what I implied? Fuck you about me being smug, i just made a mistake and tried to get a fucking laugh out of you.

Its a fucking game, whether im pissed or not is irrelevant as I could be faking it or not. And shut the fuck up about crying like a baby, goddamit. I believe all the reasons put up against me are either terrible or weak, and yet like 7 of the players are still mowing around them. What is your problem? Do you want me acting like I didnt care? You tell me to check my iso, which I KNOW. At first I did said people i just wanted to know about wrestlers and people thought it was a bad reaction. So what should I do? You tell me, since you seem to think you are so fuckign great in this game.

Should i just accept my lynch? Now why would I do that as scum or town? Should I act happy like if i didnt care? No, i am annoyed and if I was scum i would act as if im annoyed, all the while im still reading other players to form my own opinions. SHUT UP about crying like a baby, its not like im bringing it up in every post because I want, people keep pilling shit on it and I have to acknowledge it because its in regards to me.

[Nexus]

Hi. Stop the dick waving contest.

Thanks.

[Nerodoesthesplits]

Whats your Nexus read, Pidgey?