Judge, Jury, and Executioner - Over

[IceGuy]

Vote Count

Quilford (9): Sir Bastion, Sir Bastion, Mastermind of Sin, guille2015, WrathChild, WrathChild, TheShadow, TheShadow, Nocmen

Nocmen (8): Thor665, Teleporting Speed Hippos, Arugula, Knight of Cydonia, vijay2vasandani, Mastermind of Sin, Arugula, Mastermind of Sin
TheShadow (8): Axelrod, Gooner, Gooner, Axelrod, Nero Cain, Sir Bastion, Nocmen, Nocmen
DoomYoshi (5): guille2015, DCLXVI, DCLXVI, StrangerCoug, StrangerCoug
Sir Bastion (4): Teleporting Speed Hippos, Gooner, Scott Brosius, DCLXVI
guille2015 (2): Scott Brosius, Scott Brosius
vijay2vasandani (1): guille2015
Nero Cain (1): whispersilk
DCLXVI (1): whispersilk
Knight of Cydonia (1): Thor665

2

votes are currently not on a player.

Arugula (11): Quilford, vijay2vasandani, vijay2vasandani, Thor665, Teleporting Speed Hippos, Teleporting Speed Hippos, DoomYoshi, Ser Panda, Nero Cain, Nero Cain, TheShadow
Thor665 (11): Ser Panda, Ser Panda, Knight of Cydonia, Knight of Cydonia, Quilford, Quilford, DoomYoshi, DoomYoshi, whispersilk, Arugula, WrathChild

Every player has

3

votes.
With

21

alive, it's

11

to hammer.
There are

63

votes in play,

22

of which are frozen, leaving

41

votes active.

Deadline is August 11th, 3 a.m. CEST.

[Gooner]

V/LA for a little while. Going on holiday to Turkey.

[Teleporting Speed Hippos]

I think I was wrong to townread Axel.

He cc'd Shadow, but went out of his way to claim that BOTH roles could co-exist, DESPITE having his vote on Shadow at the time.
If he's CC'ing a scumread, presumably he'd believe the scumread's claim was false? Why put all the supports there in case Shadow flips town?

Ugh. Shadow is the probTown out of the two, then. I agree that we can leave both alive for tonight as either way Axel is going to have to give us info tomorrow, but I am expecting Axel to explain in more detail if he wants to ride this claim any further than tomorrow for me. See, I have a sneaking suspicion that Nocmen has a heavy scum PR and Axel was trying to softly push the Shadow wagon through INSTEAD of Nocmen's, WHILST not directly CC'ing so that he gets autolynched when Shadow flips town.

Nocmen is still the best lynch. People with their votes STILL on Shadow need to wake up to just what the implications of Axel's cc are; moreover, LOOK at who else is on your wagon: Nocmen!

[Teleporting Speed Hippos]

In other news:

Quilford's flailing isn't wrong. Pro-scum does not equal scum. I think he IS being pro-scum (anti-town) rather than scummy. "Useless fluff" does not maketh a better lynch than Nocmen.

DY is being a smart-ass douche with his "claim." The claim there is completely unnecessary and flamboyantly "look at meeeee" that it pings me in a dark place.

And a new townread develops!

[Quilford]

*flail*

[DoomYoshi]

DY is being a smart-ass douche with his "claim." The claim there is completely unnecessary and flamboyantly "look at meeeee" that it pings me in a dark place.

I claimed the same thing as Axel, why are you taking his claim seriously but not mine? I am not being a smart-ass, Axel is, I am just pointing it out to everyone.

[Quilford]

I don't think DY is scum.

[Mastermind of Sin]

V/LA for the weekend. Lynch Quilford or Nocmen idc.

[Nero Cain]

Also, what are people's reads on Gullie/Gooner/v2v?

town, scum, null leaning scum

@Ser: Nero has kinda flown under the radar for me personally, but a brief ISO leads to these conclusions:

• His weird attack on you RE: the Thor lynch & Arugula's hammer comes across as 2 players not quite getting what the other was saying.
  
• Reaction to Gooner's questioning, however, looks bad. Setting up a defence before a wagon has even really formed isn't good town play.

Weird attack? Ser Panda had no reason to get snarky.

Not sure what defense I was setting up. Please explain.

Someone tell me why there isn't any pressure on v2v for lurking? post #600 was only his 5th all game. He's been lurking a lot worse than I.

Lurking is null, active lurking is scummy. The reason he leans scum to me is 'cause I'm so used to an very active vijay.

You have a role like TheShadow's... but you think his role and yours can co-exist... *brain fries*

UNVOTE: DoomYoshi
UNVOTE: Ser Panda
UNVOTE: Ser Panda

I need time to think about the claim and its circumstances.

This. I'm incredibly leery about a claim that essentially counterclaims Shadow but also tries to couch itself so that if he dies and comes up town we don't automatically revenge lynch it.

...Yeah. I'm thinking

ONE

of them is scum, but the problem I'm having right now is which one. Why counterclaim TheShadow under practically no pressure?

Shadows wagon was diminishing. Lets say he has some proof that says Shadow may be scum afterall. Well then I don't see any reason for him to not come forward with it.

[StrangerCoug]

Why did you feel the need to state the obvious?

It seemed as if people are deciding things based on Axel's "claim". I just wanted to point out that based on his claim, it describes every role in the game, so it isn't a claim, just as mine wasn't. If it was so obvious, why didn't anyone else notice?

I don't see Axelrod pulling that stunt as vanilla townie, as he would have no reason to generate discussion about what he possibly could be.

[IceGuy]

Vote Count

Quilford (9): Sir Bastion, Sir Bastion, Mastermind of Sin, guille2015, WrathChild, WrathChild, TheShadow, TheShadow, Nocmen

Nocmen (8): Thor665, Teleporting Speed Hippos, Arugula, Knight of Cydonia, vijay2vasandani, Mastermind of Sin, Arugula, Mastermind of Sin
TheShadow (8): Axelrod, Gooner, Gooner, Axelrod, Nero Cain, Sir Bastion, Nocmen, Nocmen
DoomYoshi (5): guille2015, DCLXVI, DCLXVI, StrangerCoug, StrangerCoug
Sir Bastion (4): Teleporting Speed Hippos, Gooner, D3f3nd3r, DCLXVI
guille2015 (2): D3f3nd3r, D3f3nd3r
vijay2vasandani (1): guille2015
Nero Cain (1): whispersilk
DCLXVI (1): whispersilk
Knight of Cydonia (1): Thor665

2

votes are currently not on a player.

Arugula (11): Quilford, vijay2vasandani, vijay2vasandani, Thor665, Teleporting Speed Hippos, Teleporting Speed Hippos, DoomYoshi, Ser Panda, Nero Cain, Nero Cain, TheShadow
Thor665 (11): Ser Panda, Ser Panda, Knight of Cydonia, Knight of Cydonia, Quilford, Quilford, DoomYoshi, DoomYoshi, whispersilk, Arugula, WrathChild

Every player has

3

votes.
With

21

alive, it's

11

to hammer.
There are

63

votes in play,

22

of which are frozen, leaving

41

votes active.

Deadline is August 11th, 3 a.m. CEST.

D3f3nd3r replaces Scott Brosius.

Arugula has been prodded.

[D3f3nd3r]

UNVOTE: ALL

Reading.

Hi.

[D3f3nd3r]

Time for the Play-by-Play!

1-2: Discussion on whether Judge should claim Judge. I don't quite know about this, but it doesn't seem like a terribly bad thing. Also some RVS.

3: More Judge claim discussion. Stranger slightly leans scum in 62, but things can change. RVS is over.

4: Wagons forming. Thor is contradicting himself, and leaning scummy.

5: Uh...rage about what RVS is and that it's over.

6: More Thor contradiction. Other irrelevant stuff.

7: Arugula and Thor hammered. Arugula seems town to me; Thor seems scum.

8: TheShadow claims. The claim is somewhat believable. This could be a somewhat powerful PR, but scum is now less likely to name a scum Executioner.

9: Wrathchild almost seems like he's trolling (means nothing about alignment). More discussion on Shadow's claim.

Rest will come tonight, probably.

[vijay2vasandani]

Quilford wagon is depressingly bad. I will haunt all of yous if he is lynched today.

Get your shit together and vote Nocmen please. Thanks.

[Arugula]

Yeah, I actually agree with Vijay. Quilford seems town. Nocmen doesn't.

[Thor665]

Quilford wagon is depressingly bad. I will haunt all of yous if he is lynched today.

Get your Smurf together and vote Nocmen please. Thanks.

I'm a leading force behind the Nocmen wagon.
You think I'm scum.

Discuss.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Quilford (9): Sir Bastion, Sir Bastion, Mastermind of Sin, guille2015, WrathChild, WrathChild, TheShadow, TheShadow, Nocmen
Nocmen (8): Thor665, Teleporting Speed Hippos, Arugula, Knight of Cydonia, vijay2vasandani, Mastermind of Sin, Arugula, Mastermind of Sin

Quilford's wagon: Bastion (null-to-scum, lurking); MoS (town), guille (lurking HARD), WrathChild (ditto), TheShadow (null-to-scum, only being saved by his claim IMO), Nocmen (ANYONE BUT MEEEEEE)
Nocmen's wagon: Thor (town), TSH (null-to-town), Arugula (scum, possibly bussing), me (town, duh), vijay (null-to-town), MoS (town)

Just sayin'.

[vijay2vasandani]

I don't see the bus, so I'm probably wrong about one. I'm just not sure about which one.

[Ser Panda]

Quilford (9): Sir Bastion, Sir Bastion, Mastermind of Sin, guille2015, WrathChild, WrathChild, TheShadow, TheShadow, Nocmen
Nocmen (8): Thor665, Teleporting Speed Hippos, Arugula, Knight of Cydonia, vijay2vasandani, Mastermind of Sin, Arugula, Mastermind of Sin

Quilford's wagon: Bastion (null-to-scum, lurking); MoS (town), guille (lurking HARD), WrathChild (ditto), TheShadow (null-to-scum, only being saved by his claim IMO),

Nocmen (ANYONE BUT MEEEEEE)

Nocmen's wagon: Thor (town), TSH (null-to-town), Arugula (scum, possibly bussing), me (town, duh), vijay (null-to-town), MoS (town)

Just sayin'.

I def agree with the Nocmen vote. He is simply hopping on the highest wagons to attempt to save his ass. I mean, look at this post. LOOK AT IT:

Oh look at Shadow's horrible wagon hopping. Can we seriously go ahead and lynch him?

And now let's look at Quilford. Oh god, it's just as scummy.

Where are my votes at?

Unvote, Unvote, Unvote
Vote: Shadow
Vote: Shadow
Vote: Quilford

/facepalm

[Nero Cain]

vote:nocmen

[IceGuy]

Vote Count

Quilford (9): Sir Bastion, Sir Bastion, Mastermind of Sin, guille2015, WrathChild, WrathChild, TheShadow, TheShadow, Nocmen

Nocmen (8): Thor665, Teleporting Speed Hippos, Arugula, Knight of Cydonia, vijay2vasandani, Mastermind of Sin, Arugula, Mastermind of Sin
TheShadow (8): Axelrod, Gooner, Gooner, Axelrod, Nero Cain, Sir Bastion, Nocmen, Nocmen
DoomYoshi (5): guille2015, DCLXVI, DCLXVI, StrangerCoug, StrangerCoug
Sir Bastion (3): Teleporting Speed Hippos, Gooner, DCLXVI
vijay2vasandani (1): guille2015
Nero Cain (1): whispersilk
DCLXVI (1): whispersilk
Knight of Cydonia (1): Thor665

5

votes are currently not on a player.

Arugula (11): Quilford, vijay2vasandani, vijay2vasandani, Thor665, Teleporting Speed Hippos, Teleporting Speed Hippos, DoomYoshi, Ser Panda, Nero Cain, Nero Cain, TheShadow
Thor665 (11): Ser Panda, Ser Panda, Knight of Cydonia, Knight of Cydonia, Quilford, Quilford, DoomYoshi, DoomYoshi, whispersilk, Arugula, WrathChild

Every player has

3

votes.
With

21

alive, it's

11

to hammer.
There are

63

votes in play,

22

of which are frozen, leaving

41

votes active.

Deadline is August 11th, 3 a.m. CEST.

vote:nocmen

All your votes are already on a player. Ignored.

[vijay2vasandani]

We could lynch this after Nocmen.

[Nero Cain]

ok then....

unvote: shadow vote: nocmen

We could lynch this after Nocmen.

me?

[Thor665]

I don't see the bus, so I'm probably wrong about one. I'm just not sure about which one.

Why do you see me as scummy again?

I realized after I typed the question that you seemed to be asking for everyone to be dead just off a policy concept, and you never voted for me...why am I scummy?

[vijay2vasandani]

I'm pretty sure I voted you, or would have. But I'm not 100% sober atm so I'll do that a bit later