WWE Attitude Era 2.0 Game over nWo'd

[PeregrineV]

prod received. on vacation from work but will look things over in the bext few days.

[ThAdmiral]

It seems everyone on here is on v/la or is going on v/la.

[Internet Stranger]

This game is so brutal to read. Youre all so mostly useless. Its a clash of egos. Then again, I guess that fits in with the topic well, doesnt it. This wagon reeks of stupidity and opportunism. Im going to just ISO those players on the wagon and look for a scum in there instead.

[WrathChild]

This game is so brutal to read. Youre all so mostly useless. Its a clash of egos. Then again, I guess that fits in with the topic well, doesnt it. This wagon reeks of stupidity and opportunism. Im going to just ISO those players on the wagon and look for a scum in there instead.

I'm gonna have to agree with IS here. CJM appears to be a Day 1 lurker lynch and I really dislike those. Why don't we have a fake-vig target him... I know, I know I dropped that case for now but it still kind of irks me.

I like an Admiral or Lance or Forehead lynch. Admiral is kind of a gut thing that pinged me earlier, and the Lance and Forehead thing, I already discussed, but it looked like they were trying to justify a mislynch by saying CJ needed to die town or scum. If you look at CJM's ISO you would easily be able to determine that that particular lynch would be incredibly unproductive.

I'm gonna re-read those three.

[Nexus]

CJM is just a bad player. He needs shooting in the face but lynching him is a fruitless exercise.

This game is doing my nut in. It isn't even a clash of egos, with the exception of about four people everyone else is fucking useless.

[I Am Innocent]

I like an Admiral or Lance or Forehead lynch.

Maybe you could start by placing a vote on one of them?

PMysterious, I would like your top suspects list and a vote from you as well.

[ThAdmiral]

CJM is just a bad player. He needs shooting in the face but lynching him is a fruitless exercise.

Unless he's scum.

[Nexus]

He probably isn't scum. I reckon CJM as scum wouldn't post AT ALL.

[Nexus]

Like, retardscum tend to play even worse than CJM is playing now.

[jasonT1981]

Sawyer (1) has been prodded. Replacement being found for Prana

[forehead7]

This game is so brutal to read. Youre all so mostly useless. Its a clash of egos. Then again, I guess that fits in with the topic well, doesnt it. This wagon reeks of stupidity and opportunism. Im going to just ISO those players on the wagon and look for a scum in there instead.

Feel free to post some content at any time instead of just bitching and moaning about it.

The Forehead thing, I already discussed, but it looked like they were trying to justify a mislynch by saying CJ needed to die town or scum. If you look at CJM's ISO you would easily be able to determine that that particular lynch would be incredibly unproductive.

I'm gonna re-read those three.

How do you know it's a mislynch though? He has done pretty much nothing except vote and retract. He hasn't given any explanation for it and continually ignores the questions posed to him.

That's scummy.

CJM is just a bad player. He needs shooting in the face but lynching him is a fruitless exercise.

I'm not certain there is a vig, given there was no counter claim when inte fake claimed it. Assuming there is a vig and inte was fake claiming it, then I would've expected the real vig to claim, perhaps that's just how I'd play it.

This game is slow though, perhaps we should speed up the process (either by Jason bringing the deadline forward or by us moving into the latter stages and move towards lynching someone).

[The Gobbledy Gooker]

He probably isn't scum. I reckon CJM as scum wouldn't post AT ALL.

Or he'd do the opposite and at least try, he's sitting in the uncomfortable middle ground of town uselessness.

Lance you AtE doesn't do anything for me, guess we'll see what my other head thinks about it when she returns from vacation.

[Sawyer]

Responding to prod.

@Nexus that should have read isn't.

Im not committing to anything currently because it's too early in the game to be sure of my current read of the game

. as this day movies on the more I will be more commited with my comments. Grasping a bit there to get a reaction Mr Nexus.

The only thing I am sure of is my vote on CJ Miller currently.

Wow... you just immediately contradicted yourself.

When I (allegedly) jump on an easy bandwagon, it's scummy, but when you offer to jump on an easy bandwagon, it's perfectly okay. Nice.

So I'm not allowed to express interest in lynching extremely scummy people?

You on the other hand voted me with awful reasons that don't make sense. But keep at it. It's amusing to see how you'll try and make me look bad.

The we felt obvious to me. The only other we that might make sense is we as in my scum team....so the need to clarify it is not your scum team caught my eye.

I noticed that to and, while possibly scummy, I personally think it could also be a townie being overly careful. It's null for me.

Okay, sorry for the lack of speaking. I will re-read and look over some notes.

Oh, well that's good. Let's take a look at your next post...

@cjmiller: why are you continuing to be useless?

Because I tied him up to a chair backstage!

Ok PM, are you ever gonna do anything? Have you contributed to the game at all? Give some thoughts about the actual game. And I'd also like your thoughts about 5 of the people here. 5 people who you think are town or scum and why.

CJM is just a bad player. He needs shooting in the face but lynching him is a fruitless exercise.

This game is doing my nut in. It isn't even a clash of egos, with the exception of about four people everyone else is fucking useless.

1. You seem awfully sure of yourself. If people could avoid a lynch because they're to scummy to be scum everyone would do it. CJ may just be a bad player (I don't know. If he doesn't want people doing metas, then I wont do one on him), but he could also be scum.

2. You haven't done much yourself, big guy. You tend to mostly peek in, give your 2 cents and leave without actually scumhunting.

I'm not certain there is a vig, given there was no counter claim when inte fake claimed it. Assuming there is a vig and inte was fake claiming it, then I would've expected the real vig to claim, perhaps that's just how I'd play it.

I think it would be pretty stupid for anyone to CC anything on page 1...

This game is slow though, perhaps we should speed up the process (either by Jason bringing the deadline forward or by us moving into the latter stages and move towards lynching someone).

I'd have to agree. Not much progress is being made. I'll be fine with either of those.

[Nerodoesthesplits]

CJM is just a bad player. He needs shooting in the face but lynching him is a fruitless exercise.

I disagree. I wouldn't shed tears if he was dead. There isn't proof of a vig yet and if we did then vigs don't always shoot who they need to. But CJ deffs needs to go before LYLO. Perferably ASAP.

At this point in time I'm for a Snake, Nexus, WC, or CJ lynch.

@Yates-Why are you helping Snake?

[Nexus]

Anyone who says that the vig would've counterclaimed is an idiot.

It's not beyond the realms of possibility that there's more than one vig. I've seen it before in Theme Games.

[forehead7]

Anyone who says that the vig would've counterclaimed is an idiot.

I don't see why, if someone claims your role (inte didn't say he had one vig, he said he was the vig which, to me, implies he's more than just a one-off) and not one that's restricted(ie one-off, even or odd day etc) then I'd be mightily suspicious of that person. Not to mention that a vig role is easy enough to hide behind as scum as you just look at the general consensus of the town and pick whoever is town that's suspicious.

Two every day vigs in a 21 person game? Seems pretty heavy on fire power, I'm gonna go ahead and say that'd be very rare.

Perhaps counter claiming wouldn't be the best course of action(you could easily just vig them yourself) but it'd certainly happen as it'd allow him to be lynched.

[Nexus]

I didn't say every day vigs. Don't put words in my mouth.

[SnakePlissken]

Weird I could have sworn I posted a reply to that @NDTS. Anyway the answer is that at the time the others were giving me scum vibes but then CJ noticeably was being increasingly irritating doing some form of RedFF/Jack posting style gimmick. Not helping, in fact it was downright lazy and very anti-town play hence the vote.

[Yates]

I'm not certain there is a vig, given there was no counter claim when inte fake claimed it. Assuming there is a vig and inte was fake claiming it, then I would've expected the real vig to claim, perhaps that's just how I'd play it.

You know how a vig cc's? With a bullet at night - not words during the day.

@Yates-Why are you helping Snake?

That's not helping Snake, that's helping the game. This is a dumb thing to have as a distraction, imo.

[Nerodoesthesplits]

@ Yates-Asking why someone is voting is an entirely legitimate question.

That said I'm not too found of his answer. He had scum reads on Nexus and two others but voted CJ since he was annoying?

[Elmo TeH AzN]

He probably isn't scum. I reckon CJM as scum wouldn't post AT ALL.

Behind here. Is this based on the fact that's how he plays as scum?

[jasonT1981]

Day 1 Vote Count 8

CJMiller 6- SnakePlissken,Inte,forehead7,pappums rat,Nerodoesthesplits,ThAdmiral
Pidgy 2 -I Am Innocent,DavidX,
Lance 2 - Gobbledy Gooker,sawyer,
Sawyer 2 - pidgey,Lance,
DavidX 2 - Yates, CJ Miller
Inte 2 - PranaDevil,Elmo,
Elmo 1 - Nexus,
PranaDevil 1 - PereV,

Not Voting

Internet Stranger
WrathChild
PMysterious

V/LA

DavidX
Pappums Rat
Inte

With 21 alive it takes 11 to lynch. With a 21 day deadline.

(expired on 2012-08-18 10:34:53)

till Day 1 Deadline

[pappums rat]

Alright I just reread that sequence and I still see it as him joking around.

Disagree. And the fact inte continues to post his reasoning for the claim (looking for reactions), I am not sure where you are going with this? Either you believe him, or he is scum. Are you saying he's scum? If so, 283 is contradicting...

Okay, I think where you are seeing this is from this post:

well i wanted to see what bad ideas would try to be pushed forth

not really much happening

And then when he repeated the post in #287. It looks like I may have been wrong, so I will stop defending him, but I still dont have a scumread on him based off of this. That said, this could be a case of him saying he didnt come right out and say he wasnt the vig right away because he wanted to see what reactions could be gathered from people actually thinking his joke was serious. I still think his initial "claim" looks like he was joking.

Lance's #322 might be good to look back to regarding associative tells with CJMiller. This post looks like he is saying he is willing to vote CJMiller yet wont commit to anything regarding him (as in, he is keeping his options open).

FoS: Going Out of Town

>.<

admiral bro u scum?

Nah man

I don't believe you. Prove thyself.

And CJMiller continues to be a worthless shit. Seriously braj, if you are not going to contribute FUCKING ANYTHING to this game, please just replace out.

Looks like WrathChild and Gobbledy saw the same thing I did regarding Lance.

Agreed with forehead7. Regardless of whether CJ Miller is Town or Scum, keeping him around could be dangerous in the long run due to his eyebrow-raising voting habits. If he keeps it up, I might have to offer my support as well.

Let me translate this for you people; “CJMiller seems like a player that no one will give me any grief for voting and we can get away with mislynching because bad”. If I was going to argue with him, I would note that policy lynches don’t work in a game where at least four or five people need to be policy lynched. But why bother since Lance is scum.

Hey, I have a terrific idea: let's completely ignore the motivations of all the players who are actually on the CJ Miller wagon and focus instead on the one guy who is taking the time to explain why the wagon is a good idea. It would also appear that you've completely overlooked the fact that I have not voted for CJ Miller myself -- and, in fact, I might not even do so at all since another player has caught my eye and seems far more deserving of my vote than either CJ or Sawyer. More on this exciting story as it develops.

Feel free to stop tunneling me at any time, by the way. (Although I will admit that when you do get me lynched and I flip Town, it will be very entertaining watching you scramble to find a new patsy.)

Yeah see, he even admits that he is fencesitting on CJMiller ("you've completely overlooked the fact that I have not voted for CJ Miller myself -- and, in fact, I might not even do so at all "). And LOL at him trying to shift attention away from himself with his "you're ignoring the other people on the wagon" bullshit. You gave shitty reasoning for why you *might* vote CJMiller and were completely non-committal, that is why people are looking at you and not others.

[PMysterious]

Wow. So much. I might IsO someone if I have to.

[Nexus]

He probably isn't scum. I reckon CJM as scum wouldn't post AT ALL.

Behind here. Is this based on the fact that's how he plays as scum?

No, because I was too lazy to go trawl through his no doubt shit posting elsewhere to prove my point. I said "I reckon" rather than "I know."

Is that literally all you have to comment on?