Judge, Jury, and Executioner - Over

[IceGuy]

The next morning, Nocmen exits jail, unscathed.

However, the crowd barely takes notice of him; they all gather around the two coffins that are being carried out by the deputies.

Arugula,

Vanilla Townie

, has been killed Phase 1.
Thor665,

Vanilla Townie

, has been killed Phase 1.

It is now Day 2. Deadline is August 31st, noon CEST.

[IceGuy]

Vote Count

57

votes are currently not on a player.

Every player has

3

votes.
With

19

alive, it's

10

to hammer.
There are

57

votes in play,

0

of which are frozen, leaving

57

votes active.

Deadline is August 31st, noon CEST.

[D3f3nd3r]

Okay.

Let's start the day with a claim:

I was in the jury. We judged Arugula. I declared my intent to hammer, but I was beaten to it.

VOTE: Nocmen

Same reason as yesterday.

[Quilford]

I didn't get to do anything. :(

--

If I remember my suspects correctly:

VOTE: Nocmen
VOTE: TheShadow
VOTE: TheShadow

[guille2015]

Either Thor or Nocmen was sent to the executioner.

I think the executioner should speak out. The judge should only speak up if the executioner is lying. If the executioner doesn't speak out, he is likely scum.

@Defender: Was the jury unanimous, was there discussion in the QT?

And lets get the results from our executioner investigators.

[Knight of Cydonia]

...I'm really, really fucking confused now.
I was made Executioner last night, and I was given Thor. I've PM'd IceGuy to ask if I can post his statement in thread.
But... I chose to pardon him, so I have no idea why the fuck he's dead.

[guille2015]

Why did you choose to pardon him?

[Knight of Cydonia]

As I said yesterday, while I was on the early wagon (2nd person to vote him) a) That wagon was pushed really quickly which made me feel off about the people who leapt on it and b) Thor's play throughout the day redeemed him in my eyes.

[Sir Bastion]

@Defender: Was the jury unanimous, was there discussion in the QT?

There was little discussion, most people just gave statements on why they thought arugula was scum. Only one player said they didnt think he was. Whispersilk.

The jury was:

Me

DCLXVI

Gooner

Whispersilk

Axelrod

Wrathchild

Defender

Those who voted were: Me, Axelrod, wrathchild and DCLXVI

I voted first, then DCLXVI and wrathchild and Axelrod hammered

Nobody voted not guilty though whispersilk raised doubts of his scumminess

gooner never posted at all

based on the jury alone

vote: Whispersilk, Vote: Gooner, Vote: Gooner

Whispersilk for the very late input (he posted when arugula was at l-1) with little or not effort, felt a bit like someone covering their ass.

Gooner for not giving any input at all. I'd like to hear thoughts soon please.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Why the fuck would anyone vote to kill Arugula? That was retarded...

[Mastermind of Sin]

Also, I'm V/A until next Thursday.

[guille2015]

Why the fuck would anyone vote to kill Arugula? That was retarded...

Why would anyone not vote to kill Arugula?

[Nocmen]

Why the fuck would anyone vote to kill Arugula? That was retarded...

Why would anyone not vote to kill Arugula?

Because it was obvious late in the day that he really was town.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Hey, here's a really interesting question... why the fuck is Nocmen still alive? Like, seriously, after his constant displays of "any wagon will do" yesterday, who the hell wouldn't find him guilty?

[Nocmen]

Vote: Vijay
Vote: d3fender
Vote: Guille

[guille2015]

Nocmen was given to the Judge. The judge thought it was wise to keep him alive. Since Mafia did not know who the judge was, they'd probably not send one of their own to the judge. Baring some WIFOM of course. For the moment I will refrain from voting for Nocmen, until better evidence is set forth.

@KOC: If you are not lying, then this implies that mafia has the power to override the decision of the executioner. I don't know what to think of this at the moment. Your decision is consistent with your day 1 views, albeit a little since you rarely had an opinion on Thor. If mafia has this power, then they will always assign town to it. Thus completely negating Shadows and Axelrod's (is it?) PR. Another deliberation might clear things up. I wonder if mafia can select the same person as the executioner.

[guille2015]

Why the fuck would anyone vote to kill Arugula? That was retarded...

Why would anyone not vote to kill Arugula?

Because it was obvious late in the day that he really was town.

Well, the jury disagrees with you. I for one didn't see arugula as town on day 1.

Actually, I'd like to hear the reasoning from the Arugula is town camp.

Vote: Mastermind
Vote: Mastermind
Vote: Whispersilk

You too Nocmen, but I did not want to place a vote on you.

[WrathChild]

...I'm really, really fucking confused now.
I was made Executioner last night, and I was given Thor. I've PM'd IceGuy to ask if I can post his statement in thread.
But... I chose to pardon him, so I have no idea why the fuck he's dead.

VOTE: Knight
VOTE: Knight

This pending a statement from Iceguy.

My first reaction to this is a big giant BULL SHIT. Knight probably knew he was at risk of being nailed as the Executioner and decided it'd be best to claim it and yell mod-error.

I'm gonna read Knight's ISO and see what his stance on Thor was.

[Knight of Cydonia]

...I'm really, really fucking confused now.
I was made Executioner last night, and I was given Thor. I've PM'd IceGuy to ask if I can post his statement in thread.
But... I chose to pardon him, so I have no idea why the fuck he's dead.

VOTE: Knight
VOTE: Knight

This pending a statement from Iceguy.

My first reaction to this is a big giant BULL SHIT. Knight probably knew he was at risk of being nailed as the Executioner and decided it'd be best to claim it and yell mod-error.

I'm gonna read Knight's ISO and see what his stance on Thor was.

...I don't think I'm quite understanding your thought process here. How did you get to "claim it and yell mod-error" from "I'm checking with IceGuy to see if I can post Thor's defendant statement"? I never suggested any kind of mod-error, I'm sure IceGuy is far more competent than that.

[WrathChild]

You said you pardoned him, he's dead, you're lying or there's a mod-error. I'm saying you claimed executioner in order to not get caught in a lie by any of the weird judicial tracking roles there may be. So you're scum-strategy was to come out and say there was some mistake when there was none. Like I said, if Iceguy flies in with an "Oops" statement then I'll retract my votes.

[DCLXVI]

I can confirm that bastion's post about the jury is correct.

vote:gooner

vote:gooner

for not showing up to jury duty, in retrospect, it looks so much like scum just trying to let an easy (almost everyone including myself thought arugula was scum) mislynch slide through without his support.

[Knight of Cydonia]

You said you pardoned him, he's dead, you're lying or there's a mod-error. I'm saying you claimed executioner in order to not get caught in a lie by any of the weird judicial tracking roles there may be. So you're scum-strategy was to come out and say there was some mistake when there was none. Like I said, if Iceguy flies in with an "Oops" statement then I'll retract my votes.

So, I want to be very clear about this: in a game with 2 claimed town PRs (which, incidentally, have both claimed some kind of Executioner-tracking ability) already, you believe there are absolutely no PRs of any kind on the scum team,

and

that I would intentionally place myself in the way of those Executioner-tracking roles as scum and then point the finger at the mod when Thor died and hope he would take the blame?

[whispersilk]

Yes, I was on the jury, and I stated that based upon the one game I've played with Arugula, I did not think he was scum in this game. I didn't vote not-guilty, because I didn't need to. By default my vote was already not-guilty.

Is there a possibility that Thor was a vig shot? I see little motivation for Knights claim.

[D3f3nd3r]

Whisper, Thor did lots of scumhunting after he was hammered. It seems pointless to vig-shot someone useful like that.

Nocmen, explain your votes in 764.

I agree with WC's 767 also. The claim seemed forced, and I agree that it is "BULLSHIT."

@KoC's 771: I only remember the claim by whoever saying they were an executioner tracker (could tell who it was prev. night). Could whoever that was tell us their results, even though we probably know what they'll be?

[D3f3nd3r]

Mod: I'm V/LA 8/11 to 8/23. I should be able to post, but no guarantees for lots of posts or long essays.