Mini 1349: Words with Scum (Game over!)

[AurorusVox]

Both of you (Robo/v2v) have lied. You are both voting each other. Why should one liar be given more leeway than another?

[Robocopter87]

Both of you (Robo/v2v) have lied. You are both voting each other. Why should one liar be given more leeway than another?

vijay lied and LLD died and multiple people did not collect.

I lied about sharing and nobody was hurt whatsoever.

My crime was victimless. His was not. He lied about something much more important than I did.

^ yes. So sue me.

But really come on. You could have asked me to confirm cop before you all went and lynched her. Tbqh, I didn't even think you guys would believe especially when I already said I made stupid letter choices..

Why would we need to? You were obviously hinting at a guilty result, just because you didn't flat out say it doesn't mean you didn't claim a guilty result.

Why would we have any reason to not trust a cop claim? Seriously, this is newbie stuff. If someone claims a guilty on another player, then you lynch the person they claim is guilty and then if they flip town you lynch the person who flat out lied to you.

Luckily for you, I also lied about something else which is letting people second guess their lynch suspect. So now you are playing it off as a "gambit" and that you weren't around to fix it.

[Robocopter87]

Prods maybe?

Anything maybe?

[AurorusVox]

v2v dies today Robo but you still go down tomorrow~

[Voidedmafia]

Yeah, still think vijay needs to die.

Vote: Vijay.

[AurorusVox]

Let's let collects and flips happen first though aye?

[Voidedmafia]

Let's let collects and flips happen first though aye?

Heeey.

He's only at L-2, though...*checks VC* crap, thought it was 5 to lynch for some reason -_-.

unvote

[whispersilk]

@Hoopla

- so besides your lurker vote who is scumz?

Right now, I think most of the scumteam is within Voidedmafia, Amrun, you and DCLXVI.

I was initially liking the prospect of IceGuy scum, but I always tend to second guess players who adopt the abrasive, no-nonsense approach in their posts - increasingly I've noticed these sorts of players are town and when scum take on a more rounded tone. IceGuy is capable of being a level above and playing this way as scum too to attract town points (it obviously hasn't worked this game if this is the case), but I suspect the wagon on him is bogus and taking advantage of the tone he has adopted.

Coincidentally, you, Voided and Amrun make up the back end of the wagon, which roughly syncs with where I think a higher spread of scum are. I don't have any evidence against you (

Magna

) other than gut - I feel like you're just trying to say the right things, and leaving it there, rather than going beyond the surface. Players like you are very hard to read - if anything, the reason why I'm suspicious of you is because I have a lot of other town reads, but not one on you.

Totally blazed

[Robocopter87]

@Hoopla

- so besides your lurker vote who is scumz?

Right now, I think most of the scumteam is within Voidedmafia, Amrun, you and DCLXVI.

I was initially liking the prospect of IceGuy scum, but I always tend to second guess players who adopt the abrasive, no-nonsense approach in their posts - increasingly I've noticed these sorts of players are town and when scum take on a more rounded tone. IceGuy is capable of being a level above and playing this way as scum too to attract town points (it obviously hasn't worked this game if this is the case), but I suspect the wagon on him is bogus and taking advantage of the tone he has adopted.

Coincidentally, you, Voided and Amrun make up the back end of the wagon, which roughly syncs with where I think a higher spread of scum are. I don't have any evidence against you (

Magna

) other than gut - I feel like you're just trying to say the right things, and leaving it there, rather than going beyond the surface. Players like you are very hard to read - if anything, the reason why I'm suspicious of you is because I have a lot of other town reads, but not one on you.

Totally blazed

Care to actually put some reasoning with your vote?

You are voting Amrun for an unkown reason.

What makes her more scummy than me/vijay?

[Amrun]

After that horrible cop claim that mislynched a townie, the best you can offer today is OMGUS, vijay? You can't possibly be town.

[Robocopter87]

[offtopic]It just hit me where AV's avatar came from.[/offtopic]

[vijay2vasandani]

I should stop playing mafia for a while after this. But Amrun it's not OMGUS in that I'm attacking him for voting me, but I'm attacking him because his attack seems premeditated.

[Quilford]

Sorry guys; busy weekend. VC coming up.

[Quilford]

Game Board

Spoiler: Voidedmafia's collect

Voidedmafia collects tile E6...

Spoiler: whispersilk's flip

whispersilk flips tile F1...

Spoiler: Robocopter87's flip

Robocopter87 flips tile J1...

Spoiler: Final Board & Activity Log

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Voidedmafia flipped tile A5, revealing a J.
AurorusVox flipped tile K5, revealing an A.
vijay2vasandani flipped tile E4, revealing a G.
Amrun flipped tile C2, revealing a V.
Voidedmafia took tile E6, collecting a W.
whispersilk flipped tile F1, revealing a D.
Robocopter87 flipped tile J1, revealing a K.

MagnaofIllusion has not used either his daily flip or collect.
AurorusVox has used his daily flip.
Robocopter87 has used his daily flip.
whispersilk has used her daily flip.
vijay2vasandani has used his daily flip.
Amrun has used her daily flip.
Voidedmafia has used both his daily flip and collect.

--- DAY 3 ------------------------------------------------
Voidedmafia flipped tile D6, revealing a B.
MagnaofIllusion flipped tile E6, revealing a W.
PeregrineV flipped tile H3, revealing an M.
Amrun flipped tile D1, revealing a J.
AurorusVox took tile J6, collecting an unknown...
Amrun took tile H3, collecting an M.
Robocopter87 took tile F3, collecting an S.
Robocopter87 flipped tile K2, revealing an O.
PeregrineV took tile K2, collecting an O.
vijay2vasandani flipped tile J5, revealing an H.
AurorusVox flipped tile B1, revealing an N.

--- DAY 2 ------------------------------------------------
Voidedmafia flipped tile A4, revealing a D.
AurorusVox flipped tile G6, revealing a W.
IceGuy flipped tile H6, revealing an O.
DLCXVI flipped tile B6, revealing an M.
MagnaofIllusion flipped tile B5, revealing an N.
vijay2vasandani flipped tile I4, revealing a G.
2minds1soul took tile I1, collecting an unknown...
Robocopter87 flipped tile F4, revealing an I. 
Lady Lambdadelta flipped tile D3, revealing an R.
Lady Lambdadelta took tile D3, collecting an R.
Robocopter87 took tile I5, collecting an unknown...
IceGuy took tile F4, collecting an I.
MagnaofIllusion took tile E1, collecting an unknown...
Voidedmafia took tile A4, collecting a D.
AurorusVox took tile I4, collecting a G.
whispersilk flipped tile B3, revealing an H.
DCLXVI took tile B6, collecting an M.
Amrun flipped tile F3, revealing an S.
vijay2vasandani took tile H6, collecting an O.
whispersilk took tile B4, collecting an unknown...
Amrun took tile B3, collecting an H.

--- DAY 1 ------------------------------------------------
MagnaofIllusion flipped tile E5, revealing an R.
Hoopla flipped tile K1, revealing a C.
Voidedmafia flipped tile K6, revealing an X.
Lady Lambdadelta flipped tile D4, revealing an N.
Lady Lambdadelta took tile D4, collecting an N.
Robocopter87 flipped tile J2, revealing a P.
Robocopter87 took tile J2, collecting a P.
IceGuy flipped tile A1, revealing a P.
vijay2vasandani flipped tile C4, revealing an R.
2minds1soul flipped tile H4, revealing a C.
AurorusVox flipped tile A6, revealing a T.
Amrun took tile A2, collecting an unknown...
DLCXVI flipped tile F6, revealing a D.
Amrun flipped tile B2, revealing a V.
Arugula flipped tile D2, revealing an M.
Hoopla took tile E5, collecting an R.
whispersilk flipped tile G2, revealing a Z.
AurorusVox took tile A1, collecting a P.
MagnaofIllusion took tile B2, collecting a V.
Voidedmafia took tile C4, collecting an R.
vijay2vasandani took tile K1, collecting a C.
whispersilk took tile D2, collecting an M.
2minds1soul took tile H4, collecting a C.
Arugula took tile C6, collecting an unknown...
DCLXVI took tile A6, collecting a T.
IceGuy took tile F6, collecting a D.

Day 4

vijay2vasandani

(2) Robocopter87, Amrun

Robocopter87

(1) vijay2vasandani

Amrun

(1) whispersilk

Not Voting

(3) MagnaofIllusion, AurorusVox, Voidedmafia

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Extending deadline by 48 hours for MagnaofIllusion's prolonged absence.

Deadline hits in (expired on 2012-08-19 02:51:10).

MoI has declared Limited Access during weekends.

[MagnaofIllusion]

I'm back from vacation and will be getting caught up on my games and Modding duties over the next 24-36 hours. Expect my catch-up in that time frame.

Flip:E2

[MagnaofIllusion]

So I’m back and well rested and see this is a nice, clean endgame. Vijay and Robo have already been pointed out. And their partner is Whisper …

So scum are Amrun, MoI and either Vox or vijay.

I'm going with Amrun.

VOTE: Amrun

1. Will not even look at Robo as scum.
2. Names Vox as a possible scum suspect despite him busting Robo in a move that can’t be considered anything but Pro-Town play (checking the player who has been proven to lie about using Share not Steal).
3. Barely mentions the player who ‘gambitted’ a guilty result.

I give you credit for being ‘active’ Day 1 and not playing to your scum meta. You had me snowed up until I noted you ability has tailed off each Day and you are living up to you Secret Society Mafia meta in full right now. Nice change-up Whisper … sad that you couldn’t keep it up. Your last ditch effort at mining some random post by a dead Townie from page 10 really isn’t helping you.

I don’t want the day to end before all players not Vijay / Robo / Whisper get to choose letters.

--

Wait a second, when did you do the letter cop?

What is the sound of scum getting caught with their pants down? Aha, it’s the above.

So, letter stealing is not only scum capable. JUST as letter copping is not only town capable. You easily

could

be scum attempting to make me look bad.

No Letter Steal is overwhelming Pro-Scum as I said from the outset. If you truly believed it was Pro-Town you would not have lied about potentially using it. I’ve highlighted the word that shows you know AV is Town and are just scrambling for defense.

I find it implausible that Vijay just got up and called a guilty investigation on a player as scum. That simply doesn't make sense.

And yet you were voting the player you don’t think lied about his ‘investigation’ as scum (as of that post and still currently) when we know there are no Framer type powers in the game …

VOTE: Robo

MoI - Was very scummy and had a lot of pressure. He wasn't going to be nightkilled because hes scum, but in the rare case hes town he would be an easy mislynch (Not going to die)

Ahahah … me an easy mislynch? Eat rope you derp

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[vijay2vasandani]

That's what I was trying to say to Robo MoI. Anyway somebody reveal a P so I can investigate somebody for reals this time.

[whispersilk]

Collect: A3

UNVOTE:

VOTE: MoI

[AurorusVox]

Collect: G4

Whisper, you need to at least comment on the two lies that have been exposed in-thread.

[whispersilk]

What is there to say? I'm not confident that Robo is scum, and thinking about it even more, I'm not confident that vijay is either. Why would scum set up their own lynch the next day by claiming a guilty? It just seems like vijay was dumb and everyone is now squabbling over the ins and outs of his poor play.

Now MoI is suddenly attacking me. Why? Because my activity in the game has tapered off somewhat since the first two days. So what? No one is posting much at all. I'm fed up with this game and my motivation has gone down the toilet. Lurking and inactive town members doing stupid stuff have hurt this game from day 1. LLD, 2for1, DCL... all chronic lurkers throughout and all town. He also calls me scummy for quoting Hoopla from day 2? Big fucking deal. I quoted her because I have more faith in her experience than I do any town that are left in this game. I voted Amrun because of her placement on the wagons, and the fact she's lurked throughout the game. Whatever. I refuse to believe that every lurking player in this game is town. I think there are 2 taking an active role in day to day play and influencing the town, and then there is Amrun. She's been on the sidelines the entire game except to attack IG and jump on mislynch wagons. She contributes nothing, and the fact that other far more experienced players are letting this slide is crazy. I don't believe she is town, but no one seems to be interested in her at all. Surprise surprise. We should be lynching MoI and Amrum.

I feel like this is Ninja Mafia all over again, except this time I'm town and it's scum having a great time mind-fucking us all. Karma is a bitch.

[AurorusVox]

WhisperScum?

Didn't you say that it was me OR Vijay as the last scum? Since Vijay is no longer a lynch candidate for you, why are you posting an appeal to me as if you think I'm town?

This is a good day.

[whispersilk]

That's not an appeal to you. I answered your question, then went on a rant aimed at the entire town in general. Hence why I said "we" should be lynching Amrun and MoI. Stop trying to paint me as scum.

[AurorusVox]

If you think I'm scum, and you think Robo and Vijay are town, why would you think I would need to paint you as scum, when town are lynching Vijay today, and I claimed Robo's lie earlier? Surely if I'm trying to paint anyone as scum it's Robo?

PS why did Robo initially try to doubt I had Letter Cop'd him when he later admits to actually using Letter Steal? If I knew he'd used LS, why would he throw doubt my way to start with?

[MagnaofIllusion]

Post 1294 is more a less a scum claim.

@AV

– What do you think about a mass-claim of all unknown letters at this juncture?

[Robocopter87]

MoI, are you honestly more willing to lynch me than Vijay?

Do you honestly believe that what I did is more incriminating than Vijay?

I asked him when he letter copped because I believed him to be lying when he said he letter copped me. After he told me letters, he proved he had done it. There was the possibility that AV was just going to lie and get me quicklynched. I had all right to ask him a question like that.

And also just because everything Vijay did doesn't quite add up, doesn't mean he isn't scum. Just because there a few puzzle pieces missing doesn't mean you can't tell what the entire puzzle looks like.

Vijay needs to die.