Otherworld Mafia - Vasta - Over

[Lastsurvivor]

I'm a VT.

The main point against me is that MoS said he RBd me (since I haven't seen anything else other than the L-1 vote), right? Are you guys factoring in Healers (assuming someone mimiced TF)? Also, why would someone go after a claimed PGO? Even if someone was testing, there's no way you could really share your results since you'd be dead. It doesn't make sense to me.

[Tierce]

Do try to keep up.
Healers are not doctors, and Nobody Special already called the ability 'lackluster' and used it on me on a different manner.
Going after a claimed PGO when you don't believe they are a PGO is pretty standard; I wouldn't be surprised either that happened or that Plum/projectmatt was

redirected

to quadz.

Which reminds me--yo, claimed mimics. Does your return-PM mention anything about your target's

name

, like "PLAYERNAME is Z-role and now so are you", or does it just go "your target is Z-role and now so are you"?

[Amrun]

In case of a redirect, Plum is far more likely.

[Lastsurvivor]

Do try to keep up.
Healers are not doctors, and Nobody Special already called the ability 'lackluster' and used it on me on a different manner.
Going after a claimed PGO when you don't believe they are a PGO is pretty standard; I wouldn't be surprised either that happened or that Plum/projectmatt was redirected to quadz.

Yes, I know that NS called it lackluster. That doesn't really say anything about the role's ability though.

And a redirect is more likely than either of them actually testing it. Neither Pmatt nor Plum seemed to be doubting the claim.

[Lastsurvivor]

DCL, my role name is villager. VT's just quicker, and I figured people would assume.

[roflcopter]

is there a public vanilla pm somewhere that i'm missing?

unvote

[Nobody Special]

Which reminds me--yo, claimed mimics. Does your return-PM mention anything about your target's

name

, like "PLAYERNAME is Z-role and now so are you", or does it just go "your target is Z-role and now so are you"?

No name is mentioned. My initial request was quoted and I was told that I received a Roleblock, and then a description of roleblocking.

I see the distinction, but I'm not following. Can you expand on this line of thought?

[Tierce]

That line of thought means that the mimics (and other targeting roles with returned info) do not know whether they were redirected.

There is no public vanilla PM, but iamausername flipped villager.

[Amrun]

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[roflcopter]

oh ok i forgot what was flipped in the other thread with all the "no vanillas in vasta" theory talk

vote: lastsurvivor

[Tierce]

Stop, dammit.

We are not quicklynching AGAIN. There might be other things and I won't have this game thrown away with lynches in 24h AGAIN.

UNVOTE: Lastsurvivor

[Tierce]

Like... wtf, Amrun? What the hell is wrong with you, if you're town? Why are you pushing for a hammer this early, when you haven't done a thing during most of the day?

Skeeved out by this play, me? No, not at all!

[Amrun]

I didn't actually want a hammer. I wanted to see what lastsurvivor would do. You kind of ruined it, though.

I do want lastsurvivor dead, though, eventually, after Aia has picked their lynch. I have my ~reasons~

[Mastermind of Sin]

Did you seriously just ask me what I did on Night 1?

I blocked Yos2 night 2, hence treating him as town yesterday despite him being dumb.

if by "being dumb" you mean "lynching scum despite your best efforts"

Look at Yos2 trying to claim townie points lololololol. It's almost like he doesn't realize I just caught our scum today.

Also, quadz' explanation for the 2 kills in Aia makes way more sense than cross-killing scum. That makes LS a dirty scumbag. However, having caught this scum now, I think we should all be taking a hard look at Aia to help them figure out their scum.

[roflcopter]

mos is the only one who laughs at his jokes

[Tierce]

He was already at L-1 before, did not need the stupid pressure, and is obviously not going to cough up magical reads. The odds of things blowing up because Someone Else is stupid were much higher than getting a magical unicorn read from someone who claimed vanilla and is only tangentially more active than Nobody Special.

PEdit: my point exactly--and why would cross-killing scum lose the typical Vasta-flavor, anyway?

[roflcopter]

also lol mos acting like roleblocking lastsurvivor is the first time anyone has been suspicious of him

[Amrun]

Okay, ISO of Tammy slot reveals several things:

Non-red: Tierce, rofl, FaerieLord

Other of note: Mild coaching interaction between Yos and Tammy; mild defense of MoS

Weapons: NS-nonred, Tierce-red

Trollie: rofl-nonred, Yos on town list struck me as odd for some reason can't put finger on

p-edit: Magical unicorn read? lol okay. I've suspected him for quite awhile now, but it's hard to get anything from him and it takes drastic measures, so I thought I'd try them. Considering the much smaller playerlist now, and who it is comprised of, and considering the fact that MoS is already voting, I deemed it safe enough.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Tierce, I could probably explain that by saying the Vasta-scum method of killing (whatever it is by flavor) doesn't "work" once they go through the portal, so they emulate their Aia cousins.

Not likely, but it could be explain in a similar fashion as far as flavor is concerned.

P-Edit: I'm already voting?

[Mastermind of Sin]

Are you guys factoring in Healers (assuming someone mimiced TF)?

Classic scum defense.

[Amrun]

Tammy (6): FaerieLord, Amrun, Yosarian2, BBmolla, roflcopter, Tammy
roflcopter (3): Mastermind of Sin,

Lastsurvivor

, Nobody Special

Here's another excellent reason to vote Lastsurvivor.


But I wanted to ask Tierce - what is your read on BBmolla right now? You're not focusing on him as you usually do.

[Amrun]

Well, I thought you were already voting. >.>

[Mastermind of Sin]

Here's another excellent reason to vote Lastsurvivor.

Why do you think I roleblocked him? lol...

[Tierce]

BB is town due to the Panzer-claim and the 3rd-party issue.

Amrun, you do know Tammy was BLUE, right?

[Amrun]

Wagon build up makes Yos also unlikely red.

p-edit: It's not for you, MoS. It's for the rest. I mean I almost felt like actually making a case on him yesterday and was thinking he might be a better lynch than Tammy, but then I looked at that slot again and was like, "Well, no, this needs to die." So now it's dead and thanks for letting the lazy mode happen so I don't have to tryhard to get my guy lynched.

p-edit: Yeah, I meant blue just about all the times I posted red. I just realized that about 3 minutes ago. I wasn't even going to correct it because I figured you all knew what I meant. I think of mafia as red flips, so *shrug*