Mini 1349: Words with Scum (Game over!)


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Post Post #1350 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2012 12:46 pm

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Yeah I fucked that up pretty badly. I'm quitting mafia once all my running games are completed.
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Post Post #1351 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2012 12:52 pm

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I hope that's not true, vijay.
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Post Post #1352 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2012 12:58 pm

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vijay2vasandani wrote:Yeah I fucked that up pretty badly. I'm quitting mafia once all my running games are completed.


Hey man I hope not, you are a good guy. Fun guy to have around.

Won't even stay for Futurama Mafia?
Although the border between madness and genius is very narrow.


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Post Post #1353 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:03 pm

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Woah woah woah. Regardless of messing up, it's only a game. No need to go and quit; learn from the experience and move on. Faking guilties (esp against LLD, who loves the 1v1) rarely works out well for town.

Now, if this is all an elaborate troll I will feel very stupid.
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Post Post #1354 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:05 pm

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Pretty sure he mentioned the quitting before.
Although the border between madness and genius is very narrow.


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Post Post #1355 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:11 pm

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Well I'm town, so scum is MoI, Amrun and Voided? For some reason I still don't think Robo is scum.
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Post Post #1356 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:16 pm

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That right there is your elaborate troll.

Hoping to catch some towncred in the case that Vijay flips scum.
Although the border between madness and genius is very narrow.


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Post Post #1357 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:33 pm

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I'm on a bus! :D Just to be mean, I'm locking the thread even though you probably won't get the flip for a bit.
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Post Post #1358 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:34 pm

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...but we're in different timezones, so chances are you're not checking the thread anyway. D:
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Post Post #1359 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:57 pm

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Game Board
Spoiler: MagnaofIllusion's collect
MagnaofIllusion collects tile F5...
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Spoiler: Final Board & Activity Log
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Voidedmafia flipped tile A5, revealing a J.
AurorusVox flipped tile K5, revealing an A.
vijay2vasandani flipped tile E4, revealing a G.
Amrun flipped tile C2, revealing a V.
Voidedmafia took tile E6, collecting a W.
whispersilk flipped tile F1, revealing a D.
Robocopter87 flipped tile J1, revealing a K.
MagnaofIllusion flipped tile E2, revealing an A.
whispersilk took tile A3, collecting an unknown...
AurorusVox took tile G4, collecting an unknown...
MagnaofIllusion took tile F5, collecting an unknown...

MagnaofIllusion has used both his daily flip and collect.
AurorusVox has used both his daily flip and collect.
Robocopter87 has used his daily flip.
whispersilk has used both her daily flip and collect.
vijay2vasandani has used his daily flip.
Amrun has used her daily flip.
Voidedmafia has used both his daily flip and collect.

--- DAY 3 ------------------------------------------------
Voidedmafia flipped tile D6, revealing a B.
MagnaofIllusion flipped tile E6, revealing a W.
PeregrineV flipped tile H3, revealing an M.
Amrun flipped tile D1, revealing a J.
AurorusVox took tile J6, collecting an unknown...
Amrun took tile H3, collecting an M.
Robocopter87 took tile F3, collecting an S.
Robocopter87 flipped tile K2, revealing an O.
PeregrineV took tile K2, collecting an O.
vijay2vasandani flipped tile J5, revealing an H.
AurorusVox flipped tile B1, revealing an N.

--- DAY 2 ------------------------------------------------
Voidedmafia flipped tile A4, revealing a D.
AurorusVox flipped tile G6, revealing a W.
IceGuy flipped tile H6, revealing an O.
DLCXVI flipped tile B6, revealing an M.
MagnaofIllusion flipped tile B5, revealing an N.
vijay2vasandani flipped tile I4, revealing a G.
2minds1soul took tile I1, collecting an unknown...
Robocopter87 flipped tile F4, revealing an I. 
Lady Lambdadelta flipped tile D3, revealing an R.
Lady Lambdadelta took tile D3, collecting an R.
Robocopter87 took tile I5, collecting an unknown...
IceGuy took tile F4, collecting an I.
MagnaofIllusion took tile E1, collecting an unknown...
Voidedmafia took tile A4, collecting a D.
AurorusVox took tile I4, collecting a G.
whispersilk flipped tile B3, revealing an H.
DCLXVI took tile B6, collecting an M.
Amrun flipped tile F3, revealing an S.
vijay2vasandani took tile H6, collecting an O.
whispersilk took tile B4, collecting an unknown...
Amrun took tile B3, collecting an H.

--- DAY 1 ------------------------------------------------
MagnaofIllusion flipped tile E5, revealing an R.
Hoopla flipped tile K1, revealing a C.
Voidedmafia flipped tile K6, revealing an X.
Lady Lambdadelta flipped tile D4, revealing an N.
Lady Lambdadelta took tile D4, collecting an N.
Robocopter87 flipped tile J2, revealing a P.
Robocopter87 took tile J2, collecting a P.
IceGuy flipped tile A1, revealing a P.
vijay2vasandani flipped tile C4, revealing an R.
2minds1soul flipped tile H4, revealing a C.
AurorusVox flipped tile A6, revealing a T.
Amrun took tile A2, collecting an unknown...
DLCXVI flipped tile F6, revealing a D.
Amrun flipped tile B2, revealing a V.
Arugula flipped tile D2, revealing an M.
Hoopla took tile E5, collecting an R.
whispersilk flipped tile G2, revealing a Z.
AurorusVox took tile A1, collecting a P.
MagnaofIllusion took tile B2, collecting a V.
Voidedmafia took tile C4, collecting an R.
vijay2vasandani took tile K1, collecting a C.
whispersilk took tile D2, collecting an M.
2minds1soul took tile H4, collecting a C.
Arugula took tile C6, collecting an unknown...
DCLXVI took tile A6, collecting a T.
IceGuy took tile F6, collecting a D.

Day 4
>>>
vijay2vasandani
(4) Robocopter87, Amrun, AurorusVox, MagnaofIllusion
<<<
Robocopter87
(1) vijay2vasandani
MagnaofIllusion
(1) whispersilk

Not Voting
(1) Voidedmafia

At 4 votes, lynch has been achieved. Mod scene incoming...

You banked 2 days' worth of time for tomorrow's deadline.


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Post Post #1360 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:22 pm

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End of Day 4
It's getting late. You've noticed that since you started this odd tournament earlier today, your IM convo has been subject more and more to mob mentality. As the danger of losing has grown, so too has your friends' ruthlessness. One awkward misphrasing, one suggestion that maybe a certain abbreviation is legal, throwing out a proper noun as a good word to play... all could see you kicked from the chat faster than it takes to say 'triple word score'.

You check on the IM in time to see vijay2vasandani offering up OCTOPI as a suggestion for someone to play. A brief, awkward silence ensues.

(11:39 PM) vijay2vasandani: Guys? (11:39 PM) vijay2vasandani: Hello? (11:39 PM) vijay2vasandani: Did I say something wrong? -- vijay2vasandani has been kicked from the chat by AurorusVox (reason: wrong pluralisation) --

And then everything goes horribly awry.

>>>
vijay2vasandani,
VNL TWN
, removed for suspicious activity Day 4!
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...

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Post Post #1361 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:40 pm

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Endgame
Immediately after vijay is kicked, a few new messages pop up in your IM.

(11:39 PM) Amrun: Kekekeke. (11:39 PM) Robocopter87: muahahahaha (11:39 PM) MagnaofIllusion: Tee-hee!

You feel a bead of sweat slide down your forehead.

(11:39 PM) Voidedmafia: ??? (11:39 PM) whispersilk: uh, are you guys feeling alright (11:39 PM) AurorusVox: ...

Silence. Nothing changes on your screen, on your phone, nothing moves, nothing makes a sound. A pin is dropping, and you can sense three more pins dropping a million miles away as Voidedmafia, whispersilk, and AurorusVox realise what's about to happen. You furiously start hammering out a kick command to dispose of the tyrants--

>>>
A win condition has been achieved!
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...

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Post Post #1362 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:42 pm

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Endgame
--but it's too late. Your hands freeze on the keyboard as three new kick messages pop up in the client.

>>>
AurorusVox,
VNL TWN
, outplayed by his opponent Day 4!
<<<


>>>
whispersilk,
VNL TWN
, outplayed by her opponent Day 4!
<<<


>>>
Voidedmafia,
VNL TWN
, outplayed by his opponent Day 4!
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...

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Post Post #1363 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:18 pm

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Endgame
You are the only one left in the chat. You and Amrun, Robocopter87, and MagnaofIllusion, that is. All along, you'd had the sneaking suspicion that the root of tonight's events lay firmly planted within your friends themselves. You knew you should have trusted your instincts. Defeated, you type out a congratulations.

(11:40 PM) you: well done, guys. (11:40 PM) you: why haven't you kicked me yet? (11:41 PM) Amrun: :P

Yeah, yeah. You reach for the X button, to close the window. If they want to gloat, you're not going to stick around.

>>>
MagnaofIllusion,
MAF GNN
, vanquished his opponents and won the game Day 4!
<<<


>>>
Robocopter87,
MAF GNN
, vanquished his opponents and won the game Day 4!
<<<


>>>
Amrun,
MAF GNN
, vanquished her opponents and won the game Day 4!
<<<


Endgame
But before you hit close, new messages pop up:

(11:41 PM) Amrun: Don't be silly. :) (11:41 PM) Robocopter87: Why would we kick you? All we wanted was to talk with you, alone. (11:41 PM) MagnaofIllusion: we knew you'd be too busy talking to all your other chums to speak with us :3 (11:41 PM) Amrun: So, uh, we found an excuse to get them out of the way by setting up this fake tournament. Hope you're not mad.

Huh?

(11:41 PM) Robocopter87: We didn't have any evil intentions in mind or anything. All we wanted was to offer to throw you a party! (11:41 PM) you: what (11:41 PM) MagnaofIllusion: well, i had some evil intentions, sorry guys. i just love the smell of fresh blood and baby brains, you know :X (11:41 PM) Amrun: Not now, MoI. (11:41 PM) Robocopter87: Yeah, so, we talked to the rest of the players who were here today, and they all agreed you deserved a party. (11:42 PM) you: whattttttttttttttttt (11:42 PM) Amrun: :) (11:42 PM) Robocopter87: :) (11:42 PM) MagnaofIllusion: >:) (11:42 PM) MagnaofIllusion: whoops (11:42 PM) MagnaofIllusion: :)

And then...

-- Arugula has joined the chat -- (11:42 PM) Arugula: Hey-o. -- Hoopla has joined the chat -- (11:42 PM) Hoopla: hi, guys -- IceGuy has joined the chat -- (11:42 PM) IceGuy: hurr 'sup -- DCLXVI has joined the chat -- (11:42 PM) DCLXVI: yo -- Lady Lambdadelta has joined the chat -- (11:43 PM) Lady Lambdadelta: Hi! -- PeregrineV has joined the chat -- (11:43 PM) PeregrineV: hello again :D -- vijay2vasandani has joined the chat -- (11:43 PM) vijay2vasandani: octohi XD -- AurorusVox has joined the chat -- (11:43 PM) AurorusVox: ... -- whispersilk has joined the chat -- (11:43 PM) whispersilk: um, hello. -- Voidedmafia has joined the chat -- (11:43 PM) Voidedmafia: Hey! ^__^ (11:43 PM) you: oh my god i love you guys (11:43 PM) Amrun: We're all going out for dinner tonight, as mates. Courtesy of MoI. (11:43 PM) MagnaofIllusion: braaaaaaaaaaaaains (11:44 PM) you: oh man, and all that time i was worried that our friendships were over! thank you so much, guys!!!

(And thank you, reader, for playing or reading Mini 1349: Words with Scum!)

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This game is now over. Role distribution, setup reveal, night actions, and mod comments are to be revealed.
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Post Post #1364 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:54 pm

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Role Distribution


1. MagnaofIllusion -
MAF GNN

2. Hoopla -
VNL TWN

3. AurorusVox -
VNL TWN

4. IceGuy -
VNL TWN

5. Lady Lambdadelta -
VNL TWN

6. Arugula -
VNL TWN

7. PeregrineV
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VNL TWN

8. Robocopter87 -
MAF GNN

9. whispersilk -
VNL TWN

10. DCLXVI -
VNL TWN

11. vijay2vasandani -
VNL TWN

12. Amrun -
MAF GNN

13. Voidedmafia -
VNL TWN


Setup Reveal & Night Actions


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Click above to go to a screenshot of the spreadsheet used to chart letter tracking and night actions. Colourcoding should be fairly obvious, but orange is used to mark letters that were used or stolen, and letters with red backgrounds indicate 'useless' letters -- that is, letters that could not be used to form any words to trade in for actions. Untouched letters refer to letters that were unflipped or uncollected by the end of that day or phase (excepting pregame, which refers to the default number of tiles for that letter).

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Oh man, this thing screwed with a lot of the hopes and aspirations of town and scum alike, as I'm sure certain players will tell you. (*cough* AurorusVox *cough* MoI *cough*)

QuickTopics


Mafia can reveal their QuickTopic if they so desire. The Dead QT is here, and saulres was also given a QT to follow along the game with. No neighbour QTs were formed.

--

I'll post some more general comments in a bit.
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Post Post #1365 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:55 pm

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I make no excuses for my flavour, though. Let's not go there. >__>
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Post Post #1366 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:58 pm

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Bad vijay.
Naughty scum.
Nice modding, Quilford. Very elegant.
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Post Post #1367 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:00 pm

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Town failed pretty hard in collecting powers. It's no surprise it was a sweep when we couldn't threaten scum at night. Some of the letter selections and strategies used by townies were baffling.
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Post Post #1368 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:01 pm

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Oh and I might plan a sequel for some time. Let me know if you want to be pre-/in for that.

If you're feeling especially charitable and you enjoyed my moderation, you should totes go /in for my ailing Large Theme, Mafia in La-La Land. It's linked in my sig.
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Post Post #1369 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:01 pm

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Thanks, Hoopla. <3
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Post Post #1370 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:29 pm

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Sorry Hoopla. And sorry town. I failed hard.

And I think I'll quit for a while. Come back when I have more time XD but I'll make an exception for futurama because I like Robo.

Thanks again.

Btw, another derp moment. I kept saying VM was town because I wanted to Doc him, but the worst part is I thought the B I had was a D. So yeah, I saved my C to be able to doc somebody despite not even having a D. *sigh*

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Post Post #1371 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:53 pm

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Nicely modded Quil, the tiles appearing in that way was beautiful :D

I was ~this~ close to the dreaded PGO or COP combo, which I was going to use mercilessly. As soon as the C came my way in pre-game, that was the strategy, since I knew a P and an O could look like PGO to the untrained eye. Grarl.
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Post Post #1372 (ISO) » Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:33 am

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Well I'm glad the charade is over. Thanks to Robo and Amrun for being good partners!

Thanks so much for Modding Quilford. Your presentation and flipping posts were awesome .. very well done. The flavor (aside for saying I enjoy killing innocent babies :P ) was inventive and you should not feel bad about it at all.

Town really didn't play all that well as a whole. The fact that we were able to cherry pick our kills based almost 100% on tiles as opposed to suspicions made it easier to not look obv. The DCL kill was a perfect example. I had a Excel spreadsheet I was using to track tile collections, the number of tiles left by letter, and who had claimed what tiles / actions. Based on his claim I knew he was close to White Mage which is a very Pro-Town role and thus he had to go. Furthermore the haphazard manner in which tiles were collected (far too many blind without flipping prior to that) hurt Town being able to organize more effectively.

LLD you really screwed over Town this game with your lack of activity and your self-quickhammer. It didn't allow for Vijay to retract his gambit and set up the win for us.

I have no objections to the QT being posted so I'll let Robo and Amrun do that heavy lifting.

AV your picks of P and G did quite effectively make PGO a possibility in our mind.

Peregrine you really need to do a serious self-check on what you find suspicous in games. Voided was clearly Pro-Town this game and your suspicion of him for being helpful was terrible. Had I been Town I would have wanted you lynched for that stance alone.

Hoopla you were going to die N1 simply for the fact that you could not be left alive to GameTheory all up in the thread.

Quil and Hoopla - I'd suggest some minor alterations to the set-up in removing some of the useless tiles, adding a few more combinations of abilities (including at least 1 Pro-Scum abilities like Tailor / Frame), and adding 2 Blanks. In a 10-3 setup being effectively Mountainous is a huge deteriment to Town in general and I feel that the game is more likely to lean that way with the number of bad tiles out there.

My only regret is not picking up the I sooner and letting Iceguy snag it. It would have accelerated LYLO 1 more day.
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Post Post #1373 (ISO) » Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:54 am

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MagnaofIllusion wrote:Quil and Hoopla - I'd suggest some minor alterations to the set-up in removing some of the useless tiles, adding a few more combinations of abilities (including at least 1 Pro-Scum abilities like Tailor / Frame), and adding 2 Blanks. In a 10-3 setup being effectively Mountainous is a huge deteriment to Town in general and I feel that the game is more likely to lean that way with the number of bad tiles out there.


I agree with more combinations and adding blanks, although I don't think this run was particularly indicative of the overall usefulness of the mechanic - the town played poorly, failed to secure combinations through bad strategy and a lack of cohesion, and a couple of players made poor choices/made mistakes. I think if this setup was run a thousand times in parallel universes, the amount of power secured by town in this game would be well below the average.
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Post Post #1374 (ISO) » Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:04 am

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I think this game is the perfect example of the risks fakeclaiming Cop can carry. The wagons at the time were 2 votes each on Robo, Magna and vijay - scum could easily have been lynched on this day if things went right, but he got a townie mislynched instead, then got himself lynched in lylo. Towns can't recover from that sort of shit if you're wrong - and if you're the sort of person who thinks fakeclaiming Cop as town is a good idea, you're probably not the sort of person who is accurate enough to take that risk in the first place.
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