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[MattP]

Actually, why are we ruling out CO as scum fake-claiming the non-scum kill role? Staeg isn't confirmed.

[MattP]

I would take the gambit of directing CO's NK. I trust my reads on Sham and DV. If we don't we go into 2v4 lylo with both DV and Sham and I don't like it.

[Shamrock]

The Quilford and IceGuy kills have the same flavor, so CO being mafia would mean that the SK targeted those two and the mafia targeted Amrun. This doesn't seem very likely to me.

Again, the problem with directing CO's NK is that if CO is SK, if we do not lynch town today and the mafia/SK do not crosskill or pick the same target tonight, we end up in a 2-2-1 tomorrow.

But if we do lynch CO today, no matter what alignment he is, we have 6 alive tomorrow and thus get another lynch (and it would probably be safe to no-lynch tomorrow to get from mylo to lylo).

[Shamrock]

Also wait how is Staeg not confirmed if you gunsmithed him?

[MattP]

Also wait how is Staeg not confirmed if you gunsmithed him?

I confirm Staeg non-scum but can still be the second kill slot assuming it's a SK (since the vig would should up positive on gunsmith result)
CO confirms he is the second kill slot
Therefore, Staeg is not scum or the second kill slot
Therefore, Staeg is town.

I could be gunsmith to give the SK more immunity or to get a false positive on a vig.

[Staeg]

I am actually here and uh I believe we should let CO live (if only to be counterclaimed by bullets).

2-2-1 tomorrow if we lynch town and CO deviates from the plan/shoots town and CO is a SK is actually potentially better than 4-2

@CO: how much time did you spend thinking about your shot N1 and your role in general when you received it?

[DeasVail]

So, Shamrock thinks I'm scum, and I'm basically reiterating my previous reasons for thinking him scum, but he

still

goes to the effort of defending against my claims! Why would he if, (a) he's already done it previously and (b) he doesn't even think I'm town.

[Shamrock]

Wat?

Maybe because I don't want us to mislynch me?

[MattP]

I like it when DV makes shitty attempts to try to distance from his scumbuddy Shamrock, it's adorable.

[Jarvis]

DV - consistent. Though I imagine you plan on twisting whatever answer I give to suit you.

Am I the only one who noticed the odd synergy between this:

This seems like a decent plan, should wait for Michel to check in though

and Michel's post, followed by Shamrock's unvote. It's pretty uncanny, and makes me wonder.

Michael, why would a gender reveal be useful now?

Matt, Staeg, your thoughts on the likelihood of DV/Shamrock both being scum?

well I guess that answers for one of you

[Staeg]

Matt, Staeg, your thoughts on the likelihood of DV/Shamrock both being scum?

Probable but not 100% (about 70%).

The last post of DV was real bad, though. Will vote when CO comes in and responds.

unvote

[MattP]

It's also scumvenient that DV only mentions Vash to say he has an undecided read on him. Shamrock did a better job of disassociating himself from Vash. Michel tries too hard to look town. Best case scenario is that we use CO to kill off two of them today/tonight, lynch CO tomorrow and lynch the last one of the michel/DV/sham trio D5. It's idiotic that we are talking about 2-2-1 fears when more than statistics go into this game. Jarvis is protown, Bitmap townslipped, Staeg is practically confirmed unless CO is weird gambit scum, and I'm obvtown. That leaves four players. CO is almost definitely not scum. That leaves three players for two scum positions. So we kill two tonight and we're good.

[DeasVail]

Can I ask that you kill me

after

you kill Shamrock?

[Bitmap]

Bitmap-

Probably town, but:

Q's:

What made you so confident that the lynch was off after the hammer? What is your current read of me?

Why would scum benefit from claiming miller? If the "miller" lynch was going to be that easy, why would scum even claim that role? As for you, I'm not sure.

[Staeg]

Fucking dickfucks, one of the scum is BP and DV is now throwing bombs of WIFOM

I vote to uhh

[MattP]

Derp derp if DV is doing that then deas is scum and you should be voting him

[Staeg]

Derp derp if DV is doing that then deas is scum and you should be voting him

I want to find out if CO is SK or vig - that is important mr. matt

[DeasVail]

Wat?

Maybe because I don't want us to mislynch me?

Because everyone was totally going to sheep me...

Also, I don't understand what was so WIFOMy about my previous post.

[Staeg]

DV, I'll humor you on the offchance that you're town - Why do you want to be shot at night instead of killed today?

[MattP]

Derp derp if DV is doing that then deas is scum and you should be voting him

I want to find out if CO is SK or vig - that is important mr. matt

Securing essentialy a double lynch > knowing if chaos is a SK

[DeasVail]

Oh, because I'm BP of course!

Actually, it's just that I don't want to die and have Shamrock still alive, because I want him lynched/killed/whatever and would rather that happen sooner than later.

Also just getting it out there that I'd rather not die at all.

[DeasVail]

Wait, why would I be so eager to tunnel on my scumbuddy Shamrock all game, and not even have the balls to bus McStab who was obviously going down?

[Shamrock]

You did manage to write his name in big letters though, so, that's something I guess

Fun fact: DeasVail has not voted for anyone other than me since his catchup post after replacing in.

[MattP]

Deas is a scum PR most likely a RBer

Pedit then you would have been bussing both your partners d1

[DeasVail]

That's because you're not dead yet.

Pedit: Oh really?