League of Legends (Old)

[Papa Zito]

And Yorick is GOING to push his lanes naturally, and there's not much I could do about that.

Found your problem, you're welcome.

[xRECKONERx]

Then play a jungler. Skarner is really easy to carry games with, and he's never banned at lower elo.

eh, the problem is people usually go JUNGLE/MID as soon as they get into the game and I don't want to get into a pissing match with randoms in champ select over what role to play, I just fill in whatever we need

And Yorick is GOING to push his lanes naturally, and there's not much I could do about that.

Found your problem, you're welcome.

harassing with W

GO BOOM

push lanes

[Andrius]

Then play a jungler. Skarner is really easy to carry games with, and he's never banned at lower elo.

AP Mummy is also ridiculous.

[mykonian]

you know I've tried this new thing with ranked games where I go "it's okay I'll just go into this and not rage once and try to carry my team because I'm trying to get better and I should be able to do that"

so the first game today was fine... went Vayne, carried 10/1/6, forced a surrender. did really well.

second game today... no. We had, by all means, a fucking stacked team. Jungle Malphite didn't gank any lanes until level 7, at which point the enemy Hecarim had already ganked top 4 times. I had no wards to start, early gank. I had river warded, he ganked through tribush. I had tribush and river warded, he bought oracles and killed my wards. And Yorick is GOING to push his lanes naturally, and there's not much I could do about that. Warwick was getting zoned out of farm, but at the point where Hec ganks me and basically turns it into a 2v1 lane (as you're supposed to do with Yorick), that means another lane should have an advantage, or my jungler should be heading top to even things out.

tl;dr i fucking hate dealing with random junglers in ranked, they're the bane of my existence

Jungle malphite. The guy with insane cc... at lv6. You are lucky if such a jungler ganks earlier, otherwise it's just the way it is.

Then, we get to the point: why the fuck would malphite want to gank a ww-yorick lane? It's a pointless lane, you throw stuff at him, he lifesteals, you lifesteal, nothing happens. None of you is going to carry at any point in the game. Even if you lose that lane, it doesn't matter. Lategame you are your ult, a little bit of damage, and that's it. Same for ww actually. And it matters really little if either of you got farmed up till that point or not. Meaning that there is absolutely zero incentive to gank your lane.

So, you did one thing right. You got ganked. Haha, the hec is a fool, he's wasting time up top. Like, in the same time malph is doing profitable stuff like farming his jungle to get lv6. Now, I literally have no clue how you, as yorick, should have any problems escaping from hec/ww pre-6 unless you just tried to kill ww in some weird dive. You have to serious overextend to make them able to kill you. And seen that you could know that your lane is basically a pointless one, why take the risk? Bait the gank, and escape. That's literally all you have to do. As long as you get ganked and not killed, you should get a better chance at winning the game.

[Staeg]

eh, the problem is people usually go JUNGLE/MID as soon as they get into the game and I don't want to get into a pissing match with randoms in champ select over what role to play, I just fill in whatever we need

Since when do people call out jungle...?

[Knight of Cydonia]

eh, the problem is people usually go JUNGLE/MID as soon as they get into the game and I don't want to get into a pissing match with randoms in champ select over what role to play, I just fill in whatever we need

Since when do people call out jungle...?

Because they're all so sure that they're under their REAL elo because of shitty junglers who never gank their pushed lanes with no mana at level so clearly since they can see what's so bad about all these other junglers they can do it perfectly and if their lanes weren't so terrible they'd be a great jungler so they go back to laning because omfg all these shitty mids fukin reported and the cycle continues.

[mykonian]

eh, the problem is people usually go JUNGLE/MID as soon as they get into the game and I don't want to get into a pissing match with randoms in champ select over what role to play, I just fill in whatever we need

Since when do people call out jungle...?

Lee sin players mostly, in my experience.

But even if people call it, you often get a long way by say "aww, I wanted to mummy jungle". Half the time they give it to you, being nice people and all. Everybody loves mummy. And he wins low elo games like mine, I think.

[ToastyToast]

I never have people yelling out JUNGLE. jungle's always the leftover that no one wants (and support of course, unless I'm playing)

[RXK]

if i miss another ashe arrow i am going to hang myself

[Fate]

Fate's MASTER LEE Challengu

Rules

-Want to hold the crown as best Lee Sin player on a random website that has a thread for LoL? NOWS YOUR CHANCE. 1 Challenge per month. If you lose you are forced to practice your lee sin in private in the shadows (aka when I'm not online) and lick your wounds until you defeat me (loss rewards are negotiable for amusement). If you win you get the crown, and can be challenged as MASTER LEE.
-First to first blood wins. Game may continue for extra bragging rights/for teh lulz. No you will not get a tower before one of us dies, that's not how a Lee Mirror fucking works. Played on Top lane of SR, preferably with spectators.
-You use default Lee skin, I get to wear my sex shades and Master Dragon Shirt. FLAVOR IS IMPORTANT DAMNT

Current Clownfucks

Staeg

-Shut the fuck up 8/17
-Notes: Went 2-0+Tower before dying to him. Didn't go back and buy after first kill for extra mockery. Screwed around after 2nd kill and Staeg found out that traditional lee > 6 d shields lee.

RayFrost

-Being a cheeky clownfuck "OH NOES TIME ZONES" 8/16, has fence sat on whether he is challenging me or not.

Hinduragi

-Got shat on a long time ago. Up for a rematch, lost his right to Lee Sin cat avatar.
-Notes: He took smite but then didn't jungle a camp.... we kicked eachother away at 6 and he went into some bushes. Then he came out and I killed him. Lulz. Had sexy cheerleaders Izzy and Nuwen spectating.

[animorpherv1]

Challengu

[DeathRowKitty]

I can 1v1 you as long as it happens before Lee Sin free week ends. When I lose, I'll go back to not owning and never playing Lee Sin.

[PJ.]

eh, the problem is people usually go JUNGLE/MID as soon as they get into the game and I don't want to get into a pissing match with randoms in champ select over what role to play, I just fill in whatever we need

Since when do people call out jungle...?

People call out jungle all the time at my ELO. ~1100...fucking powerslide.

[ToastyToast]

@Fate: My lee sin score is 0/0/0. My neutral score in the lee sin challenge therefore currently places me in first

[kdowns]

I should probably stop playing ranked while I am still ahead then .-.

[xRECKONERx]

Jungle malphite. The guy with insane cc... at lv6. You are lucky if such a jungler ganks earlier, otherwise it's just the way it is.

Then, we get to the point: why the fuck would malphite want to gank a ww-yorick lane? It's a pointless lane, you throw stuff at him, he lifesteals, you lifesteal, nothing happens. None of you is going to carry at any point in the game. Even if you lose that lane, it doesn't matter. Lategame you are your ult, a little bit of damage, and that's it. Same for ww actually. And it matters really little if either of you got farmed up till that point or not. Meaning that there is absolutely zero incentive to gank your lane.

So, you did one thing right. You got ganked. Haha, the hec is a fool, he's wasting time up top. Like, in the same time malph is doing profitable stuff like farming his jungle to get lv6. Now, I literally have no clue how you, as yorick, should have any problems escaping from hec/ww pre-6 unless you just tried to kill ww in some weird dive. You have to serious overextend to make them able to kill you. And seen that you could know that your lane is basically a pointless one, why take the risk? Bait the gank, and escape. That's literally all you have to do. As long as you get ganked and not killed, you should get a better chance at winning the game.

many things wrong

- Malphite isn't Warwick. He can run into lane, slow, dish out some damage while soaking up a lot as well.

- Have you ever seen a fed Warwick? You can't kill him and he can chase you down and dish out some pretty damn good damage.

- The incentive to gank a lane is to equalize. And I would be FINE with getting no ganks up top and having Hecarim camp my lane (as I said, "other lanes should be getting an advantage") but that didn't happen either. It was a 2v1 lane up top while Malphite spent his sweet time jungling and never ganking.

- I can blow my flash to get away if he charges into lane to knock me back once. After that, if he just sits up there and camps my lane, Yorick has zero escapes.

- I never dove Warwick... and pre-6 is a very tiny portion of the game, during which I was fine. Once WW was level 6, it was pretty much gg anytime Hec came into lane with Hec fear + WW suppression.

- How does one "bait a gank" with a champion that, as I've said, has absolutely zero escape mechanism

[Mastermind of Sin]

eh, the problem is people usually go JUNGLE/MID as soon as they get into the game and I don't want to get into a pissing match with randoms in champ select over what role to play, I just fill in whatever we need

Since when do people call out jungle...?

People call out jungle all the time at my ELO. ~1100...fucking powerslide.

Man, I love that I'm just high enough that my ELO doesn't call out jungle all the time...that means it actually falls to me occasionally when I wait for people to call out their shit. Usually can't get mid, though.

[TheButtonmen]

So it's time to

troll

beat Fate with an all Ar rune page, 9/21/0 mastery page, summoner heal / teleport Lee who opens cloth / 5 eh? The cunning plan is to just sit under tower farming until he loses his goddamn mind and is forced to tower dive you.

[Staeg]

-Notes: Went 2-0+Tower before dying to him. Didn't go back and buy after first kill for extra mockery. Screwed around after 2nd kill and Staeg found out that traditional lee > 6 d shields lee.

This is a bold-faced lie - I killed you before your creeps took the tower.

[RayFrost]

So it's time to

troll

beat Fate with an all Ar rune page, 9/21/0 mastery page, summoner heal / teleport Lee who opens cloth / 5 eh? The cunning plan is to just sit under tower farming until he loses his goddamn mind and is forced to tower dive you.

How did you figure out my plan before I put it into action

[Hinduragi]

L
O
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You didn't mention the 2nd match. That first game was my first 1v1 ever and I failed hard. I admit that. The SECOND game, though, that's where the real action was. That was a good game and you know it. I take that loss respectfully.

[Fate]

So it's time to

troll

beat Fate with an all Ar rune page, 9/21/0 mastery page, summoner heal / teleport Lee who opens cloth / 5 eh? The cunning plan is to just sit under tower farming until he loses his goddamn mind and is forced to tower dive you.

If I can beat 6 d shields I can beat fucking buttons

[PJ.]

been taking amumu top. been working wonders. love it.

[mykonian]

many things wrong

- Malphite isn't Warwick. He can run into lane, slow, dish out some damage while soaking up a lot as well.

- Have you ever seen a fed Warwick? You can't kill him and he can chase you down and dish out some pretty damn good damage.

- The incentive to gank a lane is to equalize. And I would be FINE with getting no ganks up top and having Hecarim camp my lane (as I said, "other lanes should be getting an advantage") but that didn't happen either. It was a 2v1 lane up top while Malphite spent his sweet time jungling and never ganking.

- I can blow my flash to get away if he charges into lane to knock me back once. After that, if he just sits up there and camps my lane, Yorick has zero escapes.

- I never dove Warwick... and pre-6 is a very tiny portion of the game, during which I was fine. Once WW was level 6, it was pretty much gg anytime Hec came into lane with Hec fear + WW suppression.

- How does one "bait a gank" with a champion that, as I've said, has absolutely zero escape mechanism

Are you telling me that a fed warwick is better then a fed ryze or a fed mf? A fed ww doesn't die and shuts one player down each teamfight. A fed ryze or mf blows your team away. Add to that that ww really doesn't scale that well on items and I really have no clue what you are talking about.

Yorick, alike ww, is a champ that sits in lane outsustaining his opponent while throwing damage at him. Malph for his pre-6 ganks needs either heavy damage or cc in his lane for ganks to function. Yorick brings neither. Apart from there really being no incentive to get you ahead, or keeping the ww from being ahead, he's not very likely to succeed either.

I have no clue why you say yorick has no defensive mechanisms. He has a pretty damn good slow and in the more perilous cases you can get yourself a speedbuff. So again, unless you were trying to kill the ww in the first few ganks, and were really overextended, those ganks shouldn't succeed. Hec, nor ww, brings any cc pre-6. Post-6 kills could be flying over the map anyway.


Oh, and the last thing: did the ww even carry? 4 kills around lv8 doesn't seem enough to do that.

Further, in your previous post you talked about a hec which had ganked you 4 times before malph turned 7. I rather assume hec didn't have ult each time.

[mykonian]

regardless of that, toplane is by far the most easily ganked lane. If you dont want to be ganked, or can't cope with it... don't go there. Anticipate or die.