Scummer of Love Invitational: Day 4 - The day the music died

[Brandi]

Vote:Axxle

cause I never met him. Bummer time.

What..

I don't get thie axxle wagon

unvote

I can dig a katsuki wagon cause the Axxle wagon sucks and Katsuki is on UN so....maybe not where I want to be?

Vote:Katsuki

(Also I'm not on UN right now so what does that say about your UN thoughts?)

Probably don't particularly care about your response but you mind as well answer it anyways.

Clearly not paying enough attention

I can dig a katsuki wagon cause the Axxle wagon sucks and Katsuki is on UN so....maybe not where I want to be?

Vote:Katsuki

Where did your magical read come from?

IDK Ask the guy i'm sheeping. He's always town.

vote: Panzerjager

[chamber]

I hate not getting it but I still don't.

[LlamaFluff]

How much of the UN wagon is currently policy and how much is due to a scumread?

Also the response to MoS not attacking Axxle when he committed a tell but instead a few pages later when he explicitly explained the already obvious is going to be "Oh MoS is just illogical and unwilling to admit that he is"? Either way is that actually an alignment tell or a null tell? I ask because most games I just blocked out MoS and let others read him so really dont know much about him there.

[UberNinja]

Sure. This is what sparked it:

Yes. You continuously disappoint me.

You're more interested in lynching someone disappointing than scum?

Or do you think I'm scum?

This post absolutely reeked of "aha!

This

is how I get out of my policy-lynch-inspired demise!

This

man has worded his post poorly enough that I can take advantage!"

Do you think BBmolla is town?

Then this:

Utility worthy?

Listen to yourself, Tyrion.

...gave me flashbacks to you as scum FTF.

Hmmm... I don't remember saying that before as either scum

or

town.

But LlamaFluff is literally begging to be lynched for his scummy ass play.

Also I wouldn't WANT to be scum in this game. It would fucking suck to be scum in this game.

This rang true.

True as in you believe me? Good, then there's hope.

Vote LlamaFluff w/me.

[UberNinja]

How much of the UN wagon is currently policy and how much is due to a scumread?

Who is this question directed at?

[Brandi]

@Chamber:

Well, it's mostly the fact that panzer states Kat is "clearly not paying attention" when all of his posts show that he isn't. (I literally quoted 100% of his posts)

Him claiming that he didn't "get" the axxle wagon, which is a post he made after being prodded, which is after Axxle pseudo/soft-claimed, where he's clearly read enough to take his RVS vote off of him- but being so dismissive and acting confused... Despite several good reasons to vote Axxle have been made by multiple players...
...but is fine for him to just randomly hop onto a Katsuki wagon when there has been given no reasoning to do so onto that whatsoever, and gives a reason that is actually false.

So shorter and simpler, he is dismissive of a wagon that had value, claiming not to understand it...
but he completely understands one that has had no reasoning given for it- but adds his own reason that is complete BS (Kat was not voting for UN);

He claims kat is not paying attention
and in the same post
says he doesn't have a reason or a read- he's just sheeping...

"You're CLEARLY not paying attention- but I'm not paying attention either- I'm just sheeping"
so he doesn't "get" the axxle wagon, he doesn't "get" the katsuki wagon either- but one had a soft-claim so it's "safe" for him to move off of that one and then hop onto something else.

[UberNinja]

Vote:Axxle

cause I never met him. Bummer time.

What..

I don't get thie axxle wagon

unvote

I can dig a katsuki wagon cause the Axxle wagon sucks and Katsuki is on UN so....maybe not where I want to be?

Vote:Katsuki

(Also I'm not on UN right now so what does that say about your UN thoughts?)

Probably don't particularly care about your response but you mind as well answer it anyways.

Clearly not paying enough attention

I can dig a katsuki wagon cause the Axxle wagon sucks and Katsuki is on UN so....maybe not where I want to be?

Vote:Katsuki

Where did your magical read come from?

IDK Ask the guy i'm sheeping. He's always town.

vote: Panzerjager

Where do you see scum intent here?

p-edit: uhhhh h.o lemme read that

[ChannelDelibird]

Do you think BBmolla is town?

Molla's having one of those games where I umm and ahh over his alignment but he eventually turns out to be town.

Also I wouldn't WANT to be scum in this game. It would fucking suck to be scum in this game.

This rang true.

True as in you believe me? Good, then there's hope.

Vote LlamaFluff w/me.

Nope. True as in it made me think you were discovering first-hand that being scum in this game fucking sucks.

I'll have a look at Llama because I should probably have some kind of read on him by now, but I'm very happy with my vote.

[ChannelDelibird]

Hey, UN. Post 281. Please learn to snip that sort of thing if you're going to make a point that small. You arguably didn't need any of that quote. #quotewallsareantifun

[PJ.]

@Chamber:

Well, it's mostly the fact that panzer states Kat is "clearly not paying attention" when all of his posts show that he isn't. (I literally quoted 100% of his posts)

Him claiming that he didn't "get" the axxle wagon, which is a post he made after being prodded, which is after Axxle pseudo/soft-claimed, where he's clearly read enough to take his RVS vote off of him- but being so dismissive and acting confused... Despite several good reasons to vote Axxle have been made by multiple players...
...but is fine for him to just randomly hop onto a Katsuki wagon when there has been given no reasoning to do so onto that whatsoever, and gives a reason that is actually false.

So shorter and simpler, he is dismissive of a wagon that had value, claiming not to understand it...
but he completely understands one that has had no reasoning given for it- but adds his own reason that is complete BS (Kat was not voting for UN);

He claims kat is not paying attention
and in the same post
says he doesn't have a reason or a read- he's just sheeping...

"You're CLEARLY not paying attention- but I'm not paying attention either- I'm just sheeping"
so he doesn't "get" the axxle wagon, he doesn't "get" the katsuki wagon either- but one had a soft-claim so it's "safe" for him to move off of that one and then hop onto something else.

Your whole read on me is based on me saying he wasn't paying attention, which is funny cause I said that I wasn't paying enough attention. "Why are you voting me for voting a guy i'm not on," "(i'm) clearly not paying enough attention". Also There's a soft claim? This game is passing me by apparently.

[Brandi]

No, my

whole

read is not based on you saying that he wasn't paying attention.
The fact that you really aren't paying attention and nothing you say makes any sense is also an issue.

[Mastermind of Sin]

I'm back, mostly.

llama x mos is really boring. You should both stop.

I'm done talking to Llama for the rest of this game day, if not the rest of the game. He can go suck a big fat cock. See below:

I'm only going to say this one more time.

This still applies.

[LlamaFluff]

How much of the UN wagon is currently policy and how much is due to a scumread?

Who is this question directed at?

Anyone on your wagon.

Nice to see MoS being mature about being wrong. This may be actually him town though, from what I do actually remember him there was a correlation between how much he was pissing me off and how likely he was to be town.

Sorta want to just sheep Brandi here for a bit.

[UberNinja]

Panzer did neglect to answer my question earlier... and he only did that before when he was scum...

I still don't feel a scum intent from his posts.

[Vu]

Day 1, Votecount vote gamma 11

UberNinja (6): chamber, Gammagooey, BBmolla, ChannelDelibird, Wyrd, Glork

Axxle (4): Elmo, Singer is Nachomamma, Katsuki, Mastermind of Sin
Katsuki (3): evilpacman18, Panzerjager, Uberninja
Gammagooey (1): Axxle
Mastermind of Sin (1): LlamaFluff
Panzerjager (1): Brandi

Not voting

(0): No one

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch and 8 to no-lynch.

Deadline:

September 3rd, 2012, at 11:04 PM

Countdown to Deadline:

(expired on 2012-09-03 11:04:00)

Searching for Elmo replacement now.

[Glork]

Can someone please explain why people keep talking about FTF behaviors and tells and trying to apply them to forum mafia? They're pretty vastly different...

[chamber]

Can someone please explain why people keep talking about FTF behaviors and tells and trying to apply them to forum mafia? They're pretty vastly different...

The core personalities that lead to those tells in some cases still make sense to transfer?

[UberNinja]

Not nearly as much as you think. When you have to think on your feet instead of just making forum posts, it brings out a whole different side of you.

Look at how LlamaFluff plays. Much differently than in F2F. He's not a very loud person, so he sits back and isn't that active, but so far in this game he's being active and aggressive in a way that I've never seen him do IRL.

Glork's point stands. So let's stop talking about IRL play, and just play

this

game. I sincerely doubt anyone is going to catch anyone for a F2F tell here. Which is why I told Katsuki that his usual lurking wasn't going to cut it, because I just can't read that.

[chamber]

I can read CES remarkably well both IRL and off, and that comes from understanding him as a person very well. You are simply wrong that the personalities learnt FTF don't matter. They might be more obscured but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

[Gammagooey]

don't see anything that looks like an alignment tell in panzer's iso

katsuki can be weakly gut town

yeah i still want UN to get noosed.

[Brandi]

People are a lot more suspicious of me in forum mafia than in IRL.
In IRL if I'm town just about everyone knows it.
I wonder what it is about me that's so different to people on the forums...

[chamber]

People are a lot more suspicious of me in forum mafia than in IRL.
In IRL if I'm town just about everyone knows it.
I wonder what it is about me that's so different to people on the forums...

I think I'm actually much more trusting of you on the forums.

[UberNinja]

I can read CES remarkably well both IRL and off, and that comes from understanding him as a person very well. You are simply wrong that the personalities learnt FTF don't matter. They might be more obscured but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

Well you can't read patrick for shit. That last game was epic lolol

[chamber]

I can read CES remarkably well both IRL and off, and that comes from understanding him as a person very well. You are simply wrong that the personalities learnt FTF don't matter. They might be more obscured but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

Well you can't read patrick for shit. That last game was epic lolol

Whats your point? (I don't remember the game you are talking about ftr, but I know I can't read patrick particularly well)

[PJ.]

No, my

whole

read is not based on you saying that he wasn't paying attention.
The fact that you really aren't paying attention and nothing you say makes any sense is also an issue.

But is it explicitly scummy to not pay attention/not make sense

This seems like town Ninja to me, I thinking Glork is teh scums. I like Pacman's case on Katsuki. I'm positive brandi is misguided town. We have a few lurkers.