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Post Post #2225 (ISO) » Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:18 pm

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I don't think your plan makes sense. Here's my plan:
We lynch whoever we think is most likely to be scum.
We exclude from the mission whoever is their most likely partner (since we lose if we're wrong anyway), which means that if scum sabotage they will prevent what might have been the losing mislynch.

I don't like that I didn't get a positive THIS IS A SCUM read on Molla, but I can try again.
I still don't like Darox. He's much more annoying and less angry as town.
Kanye probably needs to die, but will bear rereading.
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Post Post #2226 (ISO) » Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:19 pm

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Vijay is scum after a read through, 100% positive

Molla was always on the mission, which actually was successfully fully town D1 if Molla is town
Then eventually v2v got on the mission. That night there was no sabotage, but the next night was the same mission goers (except that kuribo replaced llama, but they're both town so whatever) and then the mission was sabotaged.

If Molla was scum he would have sabotaged immediately to WIFOM the shit out of town regarding v2v, but scum waited a night to sabotage

This makes perfect sense if v2v was scum, he wouldn't want to draw attention to himself immediately after hopping on an all town mission, he would play safe but after Kuribo too switched in enough change occured that it was safe for scum to sabotage

Once again, molla-scum/v2v-town would result in a sabotage N3 but they waited until N4

Additionally, v2v laid all his tokens on the biggest townreads D1 which scum would be more likely to do, aka not want to scumhunt and form independent opinions

V2V fits the bill for scum. Molla may be scum too, but he's definitely not scum with Vijay-town, so I am positive that V2V is scum

We can worry about Molla tomorrow as well as Kanye. I actually recommend that we put Molla on the mission. I am going to speculate that every two successful missions you break down scum infrastructure and need less people on missions. If scum doesn't infiltrate tonight they therefore lose since we can then lynch kanye and consequently molla whereas right now we are in lylo. Therefore, a successful lynch today as well as acknowledging that one of Molla or Kanye is scum put this in the bag.

VOTE: Vijay

Trust Llamarble
Trust Kuribo
Trust Darox[/vote]

That should be the win.
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Post Post #2227 (ISO) » Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:20 pm

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LLAMA READ MY NEW WALL ITS THE EXPLANATION TOWARDS CLARITY
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Post Post #2228 (ISO) » Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:21 pm

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Trust Llamarble
Trust Kuribo
Trust Darox
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Post Post #2229 (ISO) » Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:35 pm

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Also now that I think about it rationally who the fuck would seriously make the "townslip" V2V made?
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Post Post #2230 (ISO) » Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:02 pm

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Llamarble wrote:I basically can't be scum because I used an investigative role on CESscum D2 and tried to get him lynched and he used an investigative role on me N1. Also I am confirmed not the saboteur from some night or another by a Kuribo role action. And my dayplay really has been obvtown throughout this game, much as various people have complained about me labeling it so myself.


I believe the you/Concision interaction was bussing, your reads through the game seem fake and constructed, and "no saboteur" doesn't confirm you.

Mission 1: BBmolla, Darox, Kuribo, Llamarble, MattP,
SpyreX
(succeeded)
Mission 2: BBmolla, Darox, kuribo, Llamarble, MattP,
SpyreX
(succeeded)
Mission 3: BBmolla, Darox, Kuribo, MattP,
vijay2vasandani
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Mission 4: BBmolla, Darox,
Llamarble
, MattP,
V2V
(sabotaged)
Mission 5:
Concision
, Kuribo, Llamarble, MattP,
V2V
(sabotaged)
Mission 6: BBMolla, kanye, kuribo, MattP, and
vijay2vasandani
(sabotaged)

The players alive are Llamarble, kanyeknowsbest, myself, BBmolla, kuribo, Darox, MattP. I think we can safely assume that there are two scum remaining, so I know two scum are in {Llamarble, kanye, BBmolla, kuribo, Darox, MattP}.

We know Mission 4 was not sabotaged by Llamarble, we know the missions 4, 5 and 6 all had scum in them, and we know mission 5 had Concision, who was scum.

Therefore, both Mission 1 and Mission 2 had scum in them
who didn't sabotage
for one reason or another.

Mission 4 got sabotaged by BBmolla, Darox, or MattP. Mission 6 got sabotaged by BBmolla, kanye, kuribo, or MattP.

We therefore know that one of {BBmolla, MattP} is scum, or Darox and one of {kanye, kuribo} is scum.

VOTE: Llamarble

Second suspect is MattP. He reads like in History Mafia (where he was scum) and generally plays very opportunistically.

Third suspect is BBmolla. I know people have been calling him town for being flippant/unhelpful but he's one to fake it. Actually, the level he's faking it makes me think he's scum because he's not nearly as flippant as town.

kanye is VI mislynch fodder. I have a solid townread on kuribo. Darox not so much but at least he doesn't stand out as scum.

Trust: kanye
Trust: kuribo
Trust: Darox


@Mod: Please fix the first post with flips and such.
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Post Post #2231 (ISO) » Sun Sep 09, 2012 10:41 pm

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Your conclusions don't seem to match your vote?
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Post Post #2232 (ISO) » Sun Sep 09, 2012 10:48 pm

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The Llarmable vote is not due to sabotaged missions. Looking at the assignments, I know there must've been missions with scum in them who didn't sabotage.
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Post Post #2233 (ISO) » Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:49 am

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MattP wrote:BB's one trick pony with the "just end this game" is so obnoxiously flaunty that it's scum-driven now, but I'll wait until tomorrow for a better read


ProTip: I did the same thing during Catch-22.

Nuwen pointed out then that at the time I was complaining about wanting the be killed off, a town player should have been happy since we had lynched scum.
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Post Post #2234 (ISO) » Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:53 am

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LOL IceGuy believes that Marble was bussing, but that Molla wasn't?

"I know people have been calling Molla town for being flippant?"

No, babe, in fact, we're all calling him scum.

Iceguy and Molla, scumming in a tree


F-U-C-K-I-N-G




hey Ice, do you like nuts?

Cuz just like your boy Concision, I got a big ol' serving of DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ NUTSSSSSSSSSS for you

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Post Post #2235 (ISO) » Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:55 am

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IceGuy wrote:We therefore know that one of {BBmolla, MattP} is scum, or Darox and one of {kanye, kuribo} is scum.

VOTE: Llamarble


If we "therefore know" that Molla or Matt have to be scum, and also know that Darox and either kanye or me have to be scum


WHY ARE YOU VOTING THE ONE PERSON THAT YOUR POINT OF VIEW CLAIMS MUST BE CONFIRMED TOWN
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Post Post #2236 (ISO) » Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:56 am

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IceGuy wrote:The Llarmable vote is not due to sabotaged missions. Looking at the assignments, I know there must've been missions with scum in them who didn't sabotage.


And even if you believe this, your own logic dictates it must be MOLLA, not Marble!
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Post Post #2237 (ISO) » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:01 am

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kuribo wrote:
If we "therefore know" that Molla or Matt have to be scum, and also know that Darox and either kanye or me have to be scum


WHY ARE YOU VOTING THE ONE PERSON THAT YOUR POINT OF VIEW CLAIMS MUST BE CONFIRMED TOWN


From the missions, I know that one of {BBmolla, MattP} is scum, or Darox and one of {kanye, kuribo} is scum.

I believe Llamarble is scum. That means one of {BBmolla, MattP} is also scum.

Explain how this confirms Llamarble in any way.
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Post Post #2238 (ISO) » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:12 am

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Maybe I misread what you said, HOWEVER:

Your point about scum not sabotaging N1 and N2 *also* applies to Molla, who is a very distance-y third on your scum list.
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Post Post #2239 (ISO) » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:15 am

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Also, CLAIM.
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Post Post #2240 (ISO) » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:17 am

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kuribo wrote:Maybe I misread what you said, HOWEVER:

Your point about scum not sabotaging N1 and N2 *also* applies to Molla, who is a very distance-y third on your scum list.


Yes. I know.

Llamarble was claiming he can't be scum because he didn't sabotage. I showed that there is scum which didn't sabotage.

kuribo wrote:Also, CLAIM.


Why?
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Post Post #2241 (ISO) » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:18 am

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BECAUSE FUCKING CLAIM


DON'T STALL


FUCKING CLAIM
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Post Post #2242 (ISO) » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:19 am

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YOU'VE GOT TEN FUCKING SECONDS, VIJAY NEVER FUCKING CLAIMED, AND YOU NEED TO FUCKING CLAIM
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Post Post #2243 (ISO) » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:21 am

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Your ALL CAPS rage seems to indicate there is a specific reason I should claim.

Tell me that reason so I can evaluate it and base my response on it.
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Post Post #2244 (ISO) » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:22 am

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Because, you illiterate fuck, we already massclaimed, your predecessor never claimed, and you are FUCKING STALLING
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Post Post #2245 (ISO) » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:25 am

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tick tock, clarice
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Post Post #2246 (ISO) » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:29 am

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Did you think I read the entire fucking 90 pages?

Anyway, I saw what you were trying to do here, because I now searched the thread for "massclaim".

I'm a Revolutionary.

I got Connection Failure N1 and used it on implosion N2, RBing him for N2 and D3. He was (supposed to be) informed of this fact.
I got White ICE N2 and used it on you N3, rolestopping you for N3 and D4.
I got Alias Assumption N5 and lost it on the end of N6 unused. It would have allowed me to send myself on a mission instead of another player (who would've been informed).
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Post Post #2247 (ISO) » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:33 am

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vijay2vasandani wrote:I'm a revolutionary too. I used WhiteICE on Kuribo last night, which means he won't be affected by any other software for one day and night phase and the Connection Failure on Implosion night one which I'm still confused as to what it did.



funny you say I was rolestopped, because WhiteICE is a doc power
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Post Post #2248 (ISO) » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:35 am

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and why'd you have to take so long to claim revolutionary?

i'd think you wouldn't have to search the thead, you'd have just read your role PM
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Post Post #2249 (ISO) » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:36 am

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kuribo wrote:
funny you say I was rolestopped, because WhiteICE is a doc power


No it's not. It clearly says that using this power leads to no software having any effect on the target.

kuribo wrote:and why'd you have to take so long to claim revolutionary?

i'd think you wouldn't have to search the thead, you'd have just read your role PM


Because I don't claim out of the blue. You claimed that there had been a massclaim and I checked that fact before I posted.
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