Judge, Jury, and Executioner - Over

[Ser Panda]

The thing I'm facepalming about is you investigating me when you know I'm in the jury with you.

if you sent it in before the jury phase. I take it back.

[Ser Panda]

Av and Koc What do you think of Sir bastions reads?

Agree? disagree? is he scum? town?

And KoC your points against greyice stink.

[RedPanda]

ou say I could be linked to strangercoug because we never really crossed (except when he voted me day 1 of course) but then you use the same logic for wrathchild and strangercoug. But me and wrathchild have butted heads so if you are tying all 3 of us together whats the reason we have both avoided strangercoug but not wrathchild and myself? That's faulty logic there. I'd say you are town probably, but it's the faulty logic

I'm sorry this isn't faulty logic.

It could mean one of you and wrathchild are scum.

It could also mean both of you are scum and instead of forcing interactions between multiple scum members , you just pick one and go with that. nothing much has come from your interactions with wrathchild.

I'll be back later to reread some of your posts regarding wrathchild. somethings rubbing me the wrong way. I have this feeling I missed something.

[BloodCovenent]

Blood

The thing I'm facepalming about is you investigating me when you know I'm in the jury with you.

The Jury is made of random players who get a QT and can sentence the defendant to death with a simple majority, otherwise he is acquitted.

Defendants, Judge and Executioner are not called up for jury duty.

I sent that PM in before we convicted SC. I kind of facepalm'd myself too halfway through the night too, however you still received a guilty.

[guille2015]

SC going to the jury, getting convicted, but walking out alive, means there is virtually no chance he is Town. This is some kind of scum "save" ability and there is no way they would use such an ability on a Tonwie just to mess with us.

Why are you so dead set on "this is some kind of scum 'save' ability" and do not consider scum setting me up much of a possibility?

The only reason that scum would save an innocent from being killed is to fill a defendant spot on the next day, thus removing the chances of getting 3 scums as defendants.
Your save is scum motivated, whatever the reason. Having you near LyLo is bad.

Additionally, I expect scum to have limited powers like this. If that isn't the case, then we would not be able to finish them. With this, it means that mafia must conserve their powers and only use them when necessary.

[Knight of Cydonia]

It says that Defendants, Judge and Executioner can't be called up for jury... but it doesn't say scum can't be on it. Interesting. There's nothing to say Ser couldn't have been off doing something else while on Jury Duty... like killing MoS.

[guille2015]

It would be nice if Quilford gives us his defense to the Judge. And by nice, I mean his next post should contain what he said to MoS.

If the executioner would like to step up and take the rap for killing Defender. I am of the mindset that the executioner should always fez up for their decision and explain why. This does not guarantee that they are town, but hiding it will probably mean that they are scum.

Nocmen should give his defense too. But I think it should wait for day 5. There is a reason that MoS saved him, but He himself said that it doesn't guarantee that Nocmen is town.

[Axelrod]

Blood, as much as you can say here, was the question you asked the Mod. whether your ability would "ding" on a player if he voted to convict someone as part of the Jury, but that person did not die? I.E. does the player have to have been part of an actual death, or just voted for death for the ability to fire?

Because if so, that seems fairly damning, even though I've been reading Panda Town all game. The thing about the scum getting to

substitute

a player in for SC (like, I guess in this case defender, or MoS?) may also be some kind of possibility I suppose. Seems like the Jury should have been told if that had happened though.

Quilford's quick defense of Panda is noted.

Panda, you are denying being part of any killing activity outside of voting for SC last night, yes?

[BloodCovenent]

Blood, as much as you can say here, was the question you asked the Mod. whether your ability would "ding" on a player if he voted to convict someone as part of the Jury, but that person did not die? I.E. does the player have to have been part of an actual death, or just voted for death for the ability to fire?

Because if so, that seems fairly damning, even though I've been reading Panda Town all game. The thing about the scum getting to

substitute

a player in for SC (like, I guess in this case defender, or MoS?) may also be some kind of possibility I suppose. Seems like the Jury should have been told if that had happened though.

Quilford's quick defense of Panda is noted.

Panda, you are denying being part of any killing activity outside of voting for SC last night, yes?

I pm'd the mod asking if my post was within its bounds and not anywhere near quoting the mod. I'll ask him your question though. However, as much as i can interpret the initial Role PM, it looks as if i only get a guilty result if they take part in killing someone at night. Otherwise my PM would hint at possible PR blocks/swaps etc like that happened already.

[guille2015]

I would have interpreted BC's result the same way. The result says that there was blood in their hands, which I interpret as some action that he did resulted in the death of someone. Since his action (Even if Guilty) did not result in the death of SC, then there shouldn't be blood in his hands due to that. Additionally, he could have been the Executioner of Night 2. Or he could have been the scum that influenced the reversal of KoC's decision on Night 1 or the actual killing of MoS on night 3.

All of this can be assumed as having blood in their hands, none are town oriented.

Vote Ser Panda

[StrangerCoug]

I'm good with BloodCovenant's claim. My being alive despite the jury convicting me brings up some interesting issues, but at this time I see Ser Panda as the most likely person to have killed Mastermind of Sin.

UNVOTE: DoomYoshi
VOTE: Ser Panda

[IceGuy]

Vote Count

Ser Panda (4): BloodCovenent, BloodCovenent, guille2015, StrangerCoug

Nocmen (2): WrathChild, AurorusVox
DoomYoshi (2): Knight of Cydonia, BloodCovenent
GreyICE (2): Axelrod, Knight of Cydonia
Sir Bastion (1): Ser Panda
guille2015 (1): GreyICE
BloodCovenent (1): AurorusVox

15

votes are currently not on a player.

StrangerCoug (8): Ser Panda, guille2015, Knight of Cydonia, DCLXVI, WrathChild, GreyICE, Quilford, Quilford
Quilford (8): guille2015, WrathChild, StrangerCoug, StrangerCoug, GreyICE, AurorusVox, GreyICE, DCLXVI

Every player has

3

votes.
With

14

alive, it's

8

to hammer.
There are

42

votes in play,

8

of which are frozen, leaving

34

votes active.

Deadline is October 4th, 11 p.m. CEST.

[RedPanda]

Panda, you are denying being part of any killing activity outside of voting for SC last night, yes?

I wasn't part of anything apart from being in the jury.

[RedPanda]

I would have interpreted BC's result the same way. The result says that there was blood in their hands, which I interpret as some action that he did resulted in the death of someone. Since his action (Even if Guilty) did not result in the death of SC, then there shouldn't be blood in his hands due to that. Additionally, he could have been the Executioner of Night 2. Or he could have been the scum that influenced the reversal of KoC's decision on Night 1 or the actual killing of MoS on night 3.

All of this can be assumed as having blood in their hands, none are town oriented.

I've had no night activity apart from my jury duty.

[Ser Panda]

Yea, let's just all jump on a fucking misinterpreted role

[BloodCovenent]

Also, my night action was sent in before deliberation phase 3. I believe it had to be in before that.

[StrangerCoug]

Yea, let's just all jump on a fucking misinterpreted role

Welcome to hell. Everyone's jumped on my being alive post-conviction.

[RedPanda]

Also, my night action was sent in before deliberation phase 3. I believe it had to be in before that.

Has the mod replied back?

did you ask him if a conviction happens and the defendant is still alive if one the people who voted guilty would still have blood on their hands?

Because if the mod says no to the above, then your claim is bullshit.

[Ser Panda]

Also, my night action was sent in before deliberation phase 3. I believe it had to be in before that.

Ohai. You replaced in right when night began. You had 48hrs to send this "role" of yours in. Why did you particularly choose me? Also, when jury duty began, you said you were only on pg 35. What was your reason from what you've read to choose me?

[guille2015]

Also, my night action was sent in before deliberation phase 3. I believe it had to be in before that.

Did you pick your action, or your slot?
Will your action take into account the current Deliberation Phase?

[BloodCovenent]

Also, my night action was sent in before deliberation phase 3. I believe it had to be in before that.

Ohai. You replaced in right when night began. You had 48hrs to send this "role" of yours in. Why did you particularly choose me? Also, when jury duty began, you said you were only on pg 35. What was your reason from what you've read to choose me?

I've had a scum read on you most of the game. did you read my catch up posts?

[BloodCovenent]

Also, my night action was sent in before deliberation phase 3. I believe it had to be in before that.

Did you pick your action, or your slot?
Will your action take into account the current Deliberation Phase?

what are you saying?

[RedPanda]

Also, my night action was sent in before deliberation phase 3. I believe it had to be in before that.

Has the mod replied back?

did you ask him if a conviction happens and the defendant is still alive if one the people who voted guilty would still have blood on their hands?

Because if the mod says no to the above, then your claim is bullshit.

Have you found out yet?

[guille2015]

Well, the first question is kinda stupid, since you replaced Gooner at the start of night.
The second question, If you submit night 3, will the result take into account Night 1, 2, and 3 or just nights 1, and 2.

[BloodCovenent]

Well, the first question is kinda stupid, since you replaced Gooner at the start of night.
The second question, If you submit night 3, will the result take into account Night 1, 2, and 3 or just nights 1, and 2.

every night.

@panda, PM's take time bro.