Judge, Jury, and Executioner - Over

[BloodCovenent]

I need to stop and wonder

what is the point of the power if it only works on jury duty???

are you that fucking dense? i still get results if they were exec or judge. BUT THAT DOES NOT HELP IF THEY HAVE ALREADY VOTED GUILTY ON A FUCKING JURY.

so your last answer:

because my role states that if they voted someone guilty on jury duty they will be considered to have blood on their hands. It does not say the same for Judge, or executioner.

isnt an answer then?

No, the role pm says i will be told if they have partaken in killing another player. It gives detailed instructions (listed before) for the jury.

You asked if the detailed specifics were essentially the same. I don't believe they are.

[Sir Bastion]

No, the role pm says i will be told if they have partaken in killing another player. It gives detailed instructions (listed before) for the jury.

those instructions being:

Ugh, i miss read my role PM. The mod answered by quoting my role pm. implying that

i only get a guilty result on a player that was in jury duty if they had voted the condemned, and the defendant was found guilty. It did not say if they died.

I interpreted it wrong, because of the first line of my role explanation.

So does it use the term "died" specific for judge and executioner?

[StrangerCoug]

At this point I think Sir Bastion is trying way too hard to discredit BloodCovenant. I believed BloodCovenant when he claimed, and I still believe him now.

VOTE: Sir Bastion

[WrathChild]

That's weird, Nocmen didn't claim and SC is WIFOM us. Weird.

[Knight of Cydonia]

That's weird, Nocmen didn't claim and SC is WIFOM us. Weird.

Do you believe the two are linked?

[Nocmen]

Did you forget the part where I claimed the first time I got lynched?

[IceGuy]

Vote Count

Nocmen (3): DoomYoshi, AurorusVox, AurorusVox

BloodCovenent (1): Sir Bastion
Ser Panda (1): Nocmen
AurorusVox (1): DoomYoshi
DCLXVI (1): DoomYoshi
Axelrod (1): AurorusVox
Sir Bastion (1): StrangerCoug

13

votes are currently not on a player.

guille2015 (7): BloodCovenent, BloodCovenent, Ser Panda, Knight of Cydonia, Knight of Cydonia, StrangerCoug, StrangerCoug
StrangerCoug (7): Sir Bastion, Sir Bastion, BloodCovenent, guille2015, Ser Panda, Knight of Cydonia, DCLXVI

Every player has

3

votes.
With

12

alive, it's

7

to hammer.
There are

36

votes in play,

14

of which are frozen, leaving

22

votes active.

Deadline is October 9th, 10 a.m. CEST.

[WrathChild]

Did you forget the part where I claimed the first time I got lynched?

I actually did.

Vote: Nocmen

[WrathChild]

That's weird, Nocmen didn't claim and SC is WIFOM us. Weird.

Do you believe the two are linked?

Not linked any more than them being two separate scummy actions, but I retract the Nocmen claim part, he did claim and I forgot about it. SC post was definitely a load of WIFOM.

[DoomYoshi]

Should we massclaim if we are this close to the end of the game?

[DoomYoshi]

That question was directed specifically at Axelrod, in response to his long post. Anyone can answer though.

[AurorusVox]

We should lynch Nocmen and claim before if we have any vital info.

[DCLXVI]

Question to everyone wanting to run nocmen up. Why is he scum? I can't recall what the case on him is or if there is one.

[guille2015]

I forgot I can still talk. Anyways, the problem with SC is that we need to get him in the defendants with other scum or else he will keep surviving.

Additionally. I would like to hear the arguments of those that voted for me as to why they voted for me?

BC, Panda and KoC.

No need for your argument SC, already know it.

[DoomYoshi]

I don't like this setup. Partially because town is losing, partially because it is so easy for mafia to bus left, right and center. Which means no voting pattern can help figure out scum.

I am not saying Nocmen is scum per se, but if you believe Guille to be scum Nocmen is the most likely partner. This is because Guille was the first person to present the "Nocmen is town" scenario.

Weird thing: Nocmen's defense didn't include how on day 1, Nocmen pushed for guille's lynch. which means either that a) Nocmen no longer thinks that Guille is scum b) Nocmen is scum, Guille is not.

Now option a) can result in Nocmen scum or town, so it really isn't helpful. I think the principle of parsimony suggest option b) though. This is because Nocmen would've figured out that bussing a partner is good already on day 1. I am sure some scum figured that out, but not all.

Before we go any further, can every player rate your scumlist from most to least scummy? This can be the only recourse we have to counter the inherent difficulty in watching vote patterns etc.

I will give my list tomorrow.

[Axelrod]

I will try to put some work into this game tonight or maybe tomorrow. I am very busy and highly unmotivated.

[WrathChild]

(

I will try to put some work into this game tonight or maybe tomorrow. I am very busy and highly unmotivated.

)
Translation: I'm scum?

[WrathChild]

So according to the rules post, there is no Jury tomorrow. Additionally, I suspect that a player can not serve on the Jury AND as executioner or Judge. So we should be able to eliminate a few suspects that way.

[guille2015]

So according to the rules post, there is no Jury tomorrow. Additionally, I suspect that a player can not serve on the Jury AND as executioner or Judge. So we should be able to eliminate a few suspects that way.

You expect all three defendants to die today?

[WrathChild]

Night 1 Jury:

Sir Bastion, 666,

WC

, Axelrod, Gooner,

Whispersilk (N)

,

Defender

Night 1 Executioner

: KoC

Night 1 Judge

:

MoS

Night 1 Defendants

: Nocmen (Executioner-Lives*),

Thor

(Judge-Killed),

Arugula

(Jury-Killed)

Night 1 Not-Jury

:

SC

, TSH (AV), Guile, Ser Panda, Doom,

Shadow

,

Nero

,

Quilford

,

V2V (Grey Ice)

Leaving AV, Guile, Ser Panda, and Doom as potential scum.

Night 2 Jury

: AV, Sir Bastion, Nocmen,

Defender

,

SC

, Axelrod,

Quilford

Night 2 Executioner

: Unclaimed Scum

Night 2 Judge

: NONE as of Modkill mechanics

Night 2 Defendants

:

Shadow

(Modkill),

Nero

(Executioner-Killed),

N

(Jury-Killed)

Night 2 Not-Jury

: Gooner (Blood Covenant), Guile, 666,

WC

, Ser Panda, KoC, Doom,

V2V (Grey Ice)

So, scum is in the Night 2 Not-Jury Group, leaving, Blood Covenant, Guile, 666, Ser Panda, KoC, or Doom.

Night 3 Jury

: Ser Panda,

Grey Ice

, Guile, 666, Blood Covenant

Night 3 Executioner

: Unclaimed Scum

Night 3 Judge

:

MoS

Night 3 Defendants

:

SC

(Jury-Lives*),

Quilford

(?-Lives),

Defender

(?-Killed)

Night 3 Not-Jury

: AV, Guile, Nocmen,

WC

, KoC, Doom, Axelrod, Sir Bastion

Leaving one of AV, Guile, Nocmen, KoC, Axelrod or Bastion as scum.

Night 4 Jury

: KoC, Axelrod, Nocmen, Ser Panda, Doom

Night 4 Executioner

: Unclaimed Scum

Night 4 Judge

: Unclaimed Town

Night 4 Defendants

:

Quilford

(?-Killed),

Grey Ice

(Jury-Killed),

SC

(?-Lives)

Night 4 Not-Jury

: AV, Blood Covenant, Guile, 666,

WC

, Sir Bastion

Leaving one of AV, Blood Covenant, Guile, 666 or Sir Bastion as Scum.

First it's pretty obvious SC is pardoned scum... so I'm going to go back and red him out.

So in our potential scum pools, we have:

AV (x3), Blood Covenant (x2), Guile (x4), 666 (x2), Sir Bastion (x2), Nocmen (x1), KoC (x2), Axelrod (x1), Doom (x2), Ser Panda (x2)

So not once has Guile served on the jury, making his chances of being the executioner the highest. I'm gonna post this and digest this while I look at the other claims.

[WrathChild]

So according to the rules post, there is no Jury tomorrow. Additionally, I suspect that a player can not serve on the Jury AND as executioner or Judge. So we should be able to eliminate a few suspects that way.

You expect all three defendants to die today?

You or SC should live.

[StrangerCoug]

So according to the rules post, there is no Jury tomorrow. Additionally, I suspect that a player can not serve on the Jury AND as executioner or Judge. So we should be able to eliminate a few suspects that way.

You expect all three defendants to die today?

You or SC should live.

I'm not sure I'm interpreting your post correctly. You call me obvscum because I survived the guilty verdict, yet say that either guille2015 or I should live. My letting me live should not be an option from your point of view.

[Nocmen]

I think he's saying they all should die, but one of you will luck out.

Before we go any further, can every player rate your scumlist from most to least scummy? This can be the only recourse we have to counter the inherent difficulty in watching vote patterns etc.

Most:
StrangerCoug
AurorusVox
guille2015
Ser Panda
DoomYoshi
DCLXVI
Knight of Cydonia
Sir Bastion
Axelrod
WrathChild
BloodCovenent
Nocmen

[Nocmen]

EBWOP: Switch AV and guille.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Most: StrangerCoug
guille2015
Nocmen


DoomYoshi
DCLXVI
AV
Sir Bastion

Ser Panda
WrathChild
Axelrod
BloodCovenent

Least: Knight of Cydonia

I feel like the groupings/order are fairly self-explanatory, but I'll go into depth if you want.