↑ Lady Lambdadelta wrote: ↑ DeathRowKitty wrote: ↑ Lady Lambdadelta wrote:It's better in general than always having to be a living ward. Worth the 75g in early game, maybe not a second time.
You don't
always
have to be a living ward. If your lane is strong enough to zone the opposing lane, you can easily chase their support out any time they try to stand in the bush. Plus, the bush is frequently the best place for you to stand anyway. I can understand sneaking a ward into the second bush while they're not watching if you're a really aggressive support and want the element of surprise, but I would much rather save 75 gold than ward a bush I'm too lazy to occasionally stand in.
Not too lazy, cautious etc.
I guess it depends on who I'm zoning with.
I think maybe you don't know what zoning means?
If you're zoning the opposition to their tower then lane bush vision is completely irrelevant - you own both bushes and they can't be approached from lane since you have vision all the way to their tower. You'll instead want wards at tribush and dragon to watch for incoming ganks to break your zone.
If you're zoming the opposition from midlane then you should be using bush vision to your advantage in your zoning, which means you control that bush directly. You'll have total vision of the other via your AD carry and lane creeps, so again you just need to ward tribush and dragon.
so I dunno what you're talking about....?
edit:
Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Beyond that, there's no real need to ward the bot bushes, especially if you as a support are able to safely* act as a living ward in a bush.
If the lane is frozen in the middle and you've had no vision on the opposing jungler for some time it is advisable to ward the far bush, as he may be lurking there attempting to lane gank. This is entirely independent of the opposing support.