Yeah, the NA server has gotten so bad for me recently ping/FPS-wise that I've gone back to EUW - I get 50ms there compared to 220ms on NA (used to be 150-170) and about 10fps more on EUW now too. Riot's coding and their servers seem to be getting shoddier as time goes on.
↑quadz08 wrote:I enjoy inhouses, but honestly, not any more than playing with a full 5 of scummers. *shrug* Who I'm playing against doesn't really add to my enjoyment.
This other group of people I play with will have both teams in the same call, and it's a shitload of fun.
I wouldn't mind having a 10 person call during an in house..I'm actually up for in-houses some time tonight, especially if we can get JD to cast for us. I'm probably alone in this, but I enjoy his casting.
Some people have suggested it's an issue with one of the traffic centres used by some UK ISPs (Virgin Media and BT both route traffic to that area through a company called Cogent, who have a history of fucking up connections to Riot's servers), but Riot claimed to have contacted Cogent about this last year, so I doubt it's that
still
; especially since it's been getting markedly worse recently.
PEdit: I'd be up for an inhouse if my internet is willing to play nice. Will test it in a custom game beforehand if we have some idea of when we're playing.
Yeah, that's what I have right now. sub-50ms to EUW, around 70ms to EUNE... shit, I even get better pings playing SC2 on my Korean account than I do playing LoL on NA.
One thing that people should consider is that League is a game where people can (should) only speak from their own experience. The game is just so vastly different at different levels, elos, normals/ranked, and team comps that no two games play the same. It really is the "choose your own (feeding) adventure" of video games. Teemo is one of the most popular picks in the game, a game that millions of people play every day. Teemo dies 75 times a SECOND. There are SO MANY BAD TEEMOS. Teemo is also a very viable champion in any lane of SR and an absolute monster in TT, when built and played by someone who knows how to play him, and much more importantly, WHEN to play him. It's all very subjective and very dependent on team composition and who you will be facing. Teemo is simply not an "every game" champion, even though there are millions of people who will play him every game. You'll see that less as you level up, but not always. There's always going to be people who flock to their chosen champion who they think gives them the best chance to win, and it always seems to be a situationally strong pick that excels at low-level pubstomping. Everyone had that game when they first started where they got pentakilled by Master Yi and spent the next week playing nothing but Yi, trying to recreate that success.
I've played ranked at every level from 400-1500 elo. The game is SO DIFFERENT at the different levels. I've played a lot of games with high (1700+) elo friends, and they are always absolutely astonished at what goes on in low elo games. How could they know what's going on, they've never been there! I used to stream games and post replays and the reaction was never "Man I could totally dominate this game", it was always something more along the lines of, "This shit is crazy, thank god I don't have to play my games here!". I've had high level players lose games at very low elo on my account, they were humbled and enlightened by the experience. I had a pro friend get like 25 kills as his main champion and lose a game horribly because he just couldn't carry it. He was amazed!
My preferred role is mid, but when I play my smurf if I go mid with a standard AP, I know I'll lose the game. I just go top with darius (and whoever comes with me) and sort out the duo lane, go find the dumby, and dunk him until I can walk through their base. You need a different kind of champ to win in the different levels of play. You can lose smurf games with 20 kills on Cassi because people don't know enough to be afraid of you and there's no way you can kill them all by yourself. Low level games are crazy! Everyone feeds! Everyone is fed! Nobody knows what they are doing so you have to deal with off the wall shit all the time! Learning how to win is almost impossible until you get away from smurfs and horrible players and settle into your own stable skill level. (protip: this never actually happens)
Just because something doesn't work at your level doesn't mean it doesn't work on any level. Blanket statements are generally bad. Being shoehorned into something you suck at and are uncomfortable with is only going to make you suck it up in that lane/role. Practice last hitting, try and visualize enemy jungler paths, be reactive with your builds instead of following a static build order, work on controlling objectives. Those things will help you at any level.
I've actually been getting really frustrated in normal 5s and there's absolutely no reason for it. My communication has been really, really lacking and I just silently seethe while I expect you all to have an encyclopedic knowledge of what I'm going to do in every situation. We have crazy different playing backgrounds, and there's really only 1 person I can expect to know what they are going to do before it happens. If it's not one of those people, I should be saying stuff. I'm not a great player, I may not be a better player than you, but there are very few things that catch me off-guard at this point in my league experience. (Caveat: I am mostly a lost wanderer as a jungler, it's always an adventure and I am always surprised when 2-4 people catch me in my own jungle.) A lot of it is just playing so much solo queue and seeing so many situations and getting killed over and over by all the dirtiest tricks in the game.
After a thousand ranked games this season and hundreds of 3v3s and normals, the only thing that stays constant in this game is change. People complain all the time about the "stagnant NA metagame", guess what, unless you are a pro-level player that will never effect you at all. FOTM picks, jungle routes, weird lane comps, item builds, champ buffs/nerfs, counterpicks, everything is changing all the time, and the solo queue doesn't even adapt to it right away so your game might not even be following the trend. Malphite was totally unused, became #1 solo queue champion of all time, and is now drifting out of favor again. In two months we could all be banning/firstpicking Karma. Who knows.
Stuff changes fast in this game, keep your head on a swivel.
I only play SRift with 5 man premades or the rare ocasional 4 man premade and the one random we force to AD carry. The super old inhouses when the best scummer had like 200 wins and nobody was above 1150 elo were incredibly hilarious.
Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
Then a week goes by and it goes untouched
Then two, then three, then a month
Then the rest of your life, you beat yourself up
Also as someone who climbed from sub 800 elo to around 1300 elo with a record of like 24-6 I can say that by far the easiest role to win games as is jungler. Baddies don't ward properly, over-extend and suck at controlling objectves. You just snowball the lanes and collect free dragons and buffs and collect 20 min surrenders. It's too bad the crash deleted my giant post but I've never found ELO hell to exist, never had games I couldn't carry or games where I hated my team mates. Honestly if you just relax go with the flow and actually help your teammates you'll find nobody is actually that bad, everyone wants to win.
Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
Then a week goes by and it goes untouched
Then two, then three, then a month
Then the rest of your life, you beat yourself up
Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
Then a week goes by and it goes untouched
Then two, then three, then a month
Then the rest of your life, you beat yourself up
Nexus wrote:Sadly I can't play the NA server because my ping is so high. Idk why but the FPS drops more significantly on NA as well (is that because of the high ping or just the shit laptop?)
I get decent ping and FPS on EUW.
That sucks about the NA server thing. We have many European scummers who I'm sure you could arrange something with though.
quadz08 wrote:I enjoy inhouses, but honestly, not any more than playing with a full 5 of scummers. *shrug* Who I'm playing against doesn't really add to my enjoyment.
I don't feel I'm under any pressure whatsoever to win inhouse games and that increases my enjoyment immensely. Good example was the last one we played, when I went top as Yorick vs. shea's Rumble and purposefully didn't try to kill him, even though I could have, because it was more fun for both of us that way.
But that's entirely my experience, not trying to argue against yours.
I almost feel more pressure to win, because I feel like I have to show off my mad skillz. Whereas if I'm in just a premade 5, I feel more comfortable fucking around (assuming all of us are down for fucking around) because then I'll never see / talk to the people we're playing with again.
Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
Then a week goes by and it goes untouched
Then two, then three, then a month
Then the rest of your life, you beat yourself up
Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
Then a week goes by and it goes untouched
Then two, then three, then a month
Then the rest of your life, you beat yourself up
↑quadz08 wrote:I enjoy inhouses, but honestly, not any more than playing with a full 5 of scummers. *shrug* Who I'm playing against doesn't really add to my enjoyment.
This other group of people I play with will have both teams in the same call, and it's a shitload of fun.
I wouldn't mind having a 10 person call during an in house..I'm actually up for in-houses some time tonight, especially if we can get JD to cast for us. I'm probably alone in this, but I enjoy his casting.
I might be able to be pulled away from meditating under a waterfall in preparation for Saturday for a few games.
hey I could be cast-bros with JD! Although I have a lot of shit tonight. >>
"Don’t buy a dozen eggs if you just want a hardboiled egg. Don’t buy a head of lettuce if you just want a salad. Don’t buy eggs and lettuce if you want egg salad because those are not the right ingredients." -Julius Bloop
The only problem with inhouses are the wild skill disparities that can make for some really unfun games. As bad as matchmaking is from riot, it's way better than a group of 10 people trying to abstractly make a fair team. At least everyone on this site (who I've played with) is within a couple hundred elo of eachother.
When we do SA inhouses, everyone is generally in the same call and the rule is all random, trades allowed, make any teamcomp you can.
Pubstomping is generally frowned upon, and the 2ks are always super fun to play with, but there's always some shithead 1500-1700 who tries his damnedest to ruin the game. Usually the 2ks gang up on him. I've met some awesome people and some total shitheads at every elo level. I've also been an awesome person and a total shithead at every level I've played at.
We normally just did it with 2 capt's and take turns picking like we were back in grade school.
Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
Then a week goes by and it goes untouched
Then two, then three, then a month
Then the rest of your life, you beat yourself up
