Ladies Night 2: No Cover -- (Game Over)

[Tammy]

I'm having the opposite reaction to camn's latest posting than huntress. She's starting to head nullify for me.

[Tammy]

So, I was thinking about Rachmarie and reading through her again, and I can't get to town at all, and if town won't be sorry at the mislynch either. I realize she says that RL is kicking her ass, well it's kicking mine too and I've still been able to comment on the game or people or do what I've said I'm going to do. Let's recap Rach's day two play shall we?

I voted and pushed Telo because I thought she was scum.

I am going to look at her wagon and juxtapose it with mine. See if I can find Telo's buddies.

Defends herself against the bussing accusation and enacts what looks like feigned ignorace. Fine, but what's important is she says she's going to look at her wagon and her own and find Telo's buddies or at least try to. How has that come along?

I was focusing on the daytalk part not reading the whole thing with ALL of the potential roles etc. BTW I did re read just that part carefully a couple of hours ago. There are TWO PRs one which is chosen at random from a long list of possibles, and the GM.

I would be happy to provide links to scum games if you would like. Bah ya all are so off base here.

Ok back to do what I planned to do and hopefully that answers DGB's questions and others.

Defends herself from the feigned ignorance accusation and says she's back to finding Telo's buddies...Does she?

RL has been keeping me swamped... (just published a book woot0.

Tracey I know you are a wall type person, but why do you have to do ALL of them at the same time? Why not do them in groups? Like part 1, part 2, etc.

I have to admit it is pinging my scumdar with the must wait til ALL are done...

Doesn't have time to do what she said she was going to do, but has time to stop in and criticize Tracey for not posting her reads. Soft-pushing and parroting the others who have raised suspicion about it. But doesn't vote. She hasn't voted at all today. We're four days away from deadline, she's the leading wagon, and she gives us this:

Am I at L-1 with an intent to hammer??? I have no problem claiming at that point.

Why is everyone seeing my push on Telo as bussing WTF? If I were scum I would have not jumped on her wagon so early and I would have jumped OFF MUCH sooner, or I would have slipped on much later when it was super clear that she was going to be lynched no matter what.

Nothing but more defenses, doesn't do what she said she was going to do and refuses to claim until she's at L-1. I realize that some people do this and it's a bit of a playstyle preference, but I've never seen it benefit town. And quite frankly, maybe I'd understand it from a more active player, but I can't understand it in this situation. Rachmarie barring some unexpected event is going to be the lynch today, so she's basically at L-1 for all intents and purposes. Sure a couple of wagons have sprung up as a counter, but haven't gained any real traction. I can't find the town motivation in any of this.

[camn]

Goof!
That post was about YOU, silly. Not RM.

And Tammy- I have.. but she isn't less active... just less righteous. It's hard to explain. Like weather patterns.

[Fujiko]

That's the sort of BS that scum says all the time. The emphasis "in this case" is odd, too.

Fair point.

So, you've played with her as scum before and she had a lower activity level than this?

Yes - Newbie 1252.

Why wouldn't you have claimed?

I don't understand why she would claim until she's at L-1 with intent to hammer. (See also Newbie 1252, where I end up dying as a town power role because I claimed early, and the dead QT where I had it explained to me that this would not have happened unless I waited to claim.) I interpreted "Am I at L-1 with an intent to hammer??? I have no problem claiming at that point." as "sure, I'll claim -- then", and think that at the very least it's a valid playstyle choice.

I'm not opposed to a Rach lynch (though I prefer Apokalyptika), I just think failure to claim isn't a good reason for it.

[Fujiko]

EBWOP: "unless I waited to claim" = "if I waited to claim."

[Tammy]

I don't read others meta, but thank you. I only really use meta I have personal experience with as anything else is really misleading.

As far as claiming early, eh. I've claimed before a single vote has been on me before when I thought it was I the best interest of the town to do so. Some people didnt agree, but I still stand by why I did it. I've also claimed when a wagon was building before to stop it, so there really isn't much of a prescription of when you should. There are play styles but you also have to take into account the game state. If there's a possibility there's going to be a wagon not yours, then yes, maybe hold back, but if every indication is that you will be lynched, holding out until l-1...I just don't see the point.

[RedCoyote]

Happy scumday, RC. (:

Move over, camn & DGB. Tracey is my new favorite. She even bolded it so I wouldn't miss it!

Thank you. <3

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Vote Count 2 - 8

• RachMarie

  (6) (Tammy - Apokalyptika - DrippingGoofball - PiggyGal15 - camn - Sucrose)
  
  
  Apokalyptika
  (3) (

  Sucrose

  - Fujiko - Eidolon - springlullaby)
  
  
  Sucrose
  (1) (TraceyLyn11 -

  camn

  )
  
  
  camn
  (1) (Huntress)
  
  
  Not Voting
  (4) (RachMarie - Amrun - Brandi - Seastormjt)

With fifteen alive, it takes eight to lynch.

Current Deadline:

(expired on 2012-10-23 20:07:00)

[DrippingGoofball]

Amrun is scum. She's using RL excuses to fly under the radar. She has exploited this as scum in the past.

[DrippingGoofball]

Now RachMarie has to claim. Forget that "L-1 with intent to claim" nonsense. Fact is, she's the lynch today unless she claims.

The defenders are anemic, she's retreated to the scum QT, we're running out of time.

[TraceyLyn11]

And you don't think her partners would be urging her to post... Why?

[TraceyLyn11]

Move over, camn & DGB. Tracey is my new favorite. She even bolded it so I wouldn't miss it!

Thank you. <3

I'm someone's favorite?

But for cereals, you're welcome!

[Tammy]

Not Voting

(4) (RachMarie - Amrun - Brandi - Seastormjt)

[/list]

Really really likely at least one scum is here.

[PiggyGal15]

Yes, it's Rach, why isn't she lynched yet?

[Brandi]

Sorry I've not given much contribution today, this is a busy month for me. I still haven't read everything in the past few pages but I'll try to catch up soon.

[Sucrose]

Sorry I've not given much contribution today, this is a busy month for me. I still haven't read everything in the past few pages but I'll try to catch up soon.

You should vote for Rach, so we can get to L-1, since she's apparently not gonna claim before then.

[Tammy]

So, we're effectively being hamstrung by rach not showing up in the thread. Awesome. Also, I was thinking about this kea of her "how dare you think I was bussing Telo" it actually reads completely counter to the questions we e asked her about her day one play that she hAs completely refused to answer. This is not town play. Anyone not voting Rachel at this point...I'd like to know why.

[Brandi]

vote: Rach

Please stop stalling and claim, Rach, thanks.

[Huntress]

Stating intent to hammer. Full claim please.

[DrippingGoofball]

Don't forget to lynch/vig Apo & camn after I'm gone. Amrun, too, for good measure.

[springlullaby]

Yeah, by the look of it Rach may be a good lynch too, BTW the logical thing to do is to run up Apok and vig Rach.

[Sucrose]

Yeah, by the look of it Rach may be a good lynch too, BTW the logical thing to do is to run up Apok and vig Rach.

Finally, someone agrees!

[camn]

tomato/tomato?
by that i mean... whats the diff?

[Sucrose]

Who is that directed at?

[camn]

both of you!

not that I am EVER really against a lurkerlynch... but why is it logical? Im slow.

[RedCoyote]

Prodding Apok. Hopefully Amrun will give us a good post on Monday because of her weekend V/LA.