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[Cheery Dog]

She did say that she thinks the scum team is Jason and Cheery, so that counts for something.

That if she is the partner she didn't include him on the team? how does that work for counting anything?

[JasonWazza]

ummmm strangercoug has been not in the thread for almost 3 days, should we do something?

[nhammen]

Nhammen and the other players, does this last city post change things for you? I think it does for me...

Oh I can definitely see City as scum. The way I see it, as long as I am right about Jason being town, then we have this game set.

I think this also still stands for a possible City/Johnny team
Coming in and calling your partner town with poor reasoning.

Hmmm... yes. Could be.

(that isn't a hammer)

Sometimes people get annoyed when players do what you just did. Just letting you know for the future. There are players that will vote, and then say it is a hamer when it actually isn't, as a way to get reactions.

Seems almost like coaching and we already have the one flip to have it as possible so with this i am confident enough to hammer

It took me a while to see why this could be coaching. For some reaon, I had been thinking that Cheery was the SE, when it was actually Johnny. But now that I remember, I can see this as a possibility as well.

I guess we are just waiting on the flip.

[JasonWazza]

(that isn't a hammer)

Sometimes people get annoyed when players do what you just did. Just letting you know for the future. There are players that will vote, and then say it is a hamer when it actually isn't, as a way to get reactions.

True i kinda said it because i thought he had forgot that both me and city were holding our votes, but i will remember that for later.

[Cheery Dog]

I didn't even notice I have actually been hammered now, I kind of skipped the last few posts on the last page. I was about to come in here and ask about what flip you were expecting.

enjoy LYLO.

and remember there is some small chance that there was a possible no kill on night 2, I doubt it, but don't risk it straight away unless you're that cocky of course.

Also catch that scum whichever two townies are left tomorrow.

[StrangerCoug]

ummmm strangercoug has been not in the thread for almost 3 days, should we do something?

I'm on almost every day. It's just that the game pace has been pretty slow.

VOTE COUNT

Cheery Dog (3): nhammen, HerrRudi, JasonWazza

Not voting (2): CityElectric, Cheery Dog

With

5

players alive, it takes

3

players to lynch.

You decide that Cheery Dog should be renamed Mafia Dog. You're sure you have it, but alas, you are unable to connect Cheery Dog to organized crime in any way. Rome was getting closer and closer to Mafia control...

Cheery Dog, who was a

vanilla townie

, has been lynched on Day 4.

Night 4 ends in (expired on 2012-10-19 12:50:29).

[StrangerCoug]

You notice that nhammen hasn't met you at the town square. You go to his house to find him, and you do—with a knife in his throat. You know that one of the other two people here did it, but which one?

nhammen, who was a

vanilla townie

, has been stabbed on Night 4.

Five, three, two.

[HerrRudi]

hmmmm City or Jason City or Jason. I'm gonna meditate on this one a bit. No one should place a vote right now just to avoid a scum quick win

[JasonWazza]

oh fun, time to reread, i will likely use a triple ISO of you 2 and johnny to look for any connections, along with any NK analysis i can muster.

[JasonWazza]

NK attempts i am sure of:

nhammen N1
Pasch N3
nhammen N4

The protect i am unsure of is:

HerrRudi N2

I will explain reasonings of the ones i am sure of and who would most likely do it first

N1: seems like a noob motivated kill, kill the IC seems to be the main thing for this, so i wouldn't likely put that down to anyone.

N3: obvious kill of the doctor, fairly straight forward.

N4: doesn't really give much other then the fact that nhammen was fairly certain i was town, other then that meh could be either.



As for N2: at this point johnny was still alive so i will take him into my thinking, i would have thought the kill would have been better for them, but neither claimed a PR (which to me would be the main reason to no kill), maybe it was to find the reason for the N2 no kill, but the fact that pasch used backwards logic to stop the kill makes me suspicous that either;

a) the scum team was gambling
b) the scum team didn't want to risk them being more looked at after mass claim.

Now with a herr/johnny team my feelings are that the gamble at the time may have felt worth it (both were fairly highly regarded as town at the time) and that they may have thought that one of them would likely be protected.

As for a city/johnny team i can see the targeting of herr being useful to them, so at this point, either herr was or wasn't the NK target so not very helpful now that i have written it, but lets me think more around it when i get round to doing the iso (was herr suspicious of johnny and city sort of things).

So basically these are my notes

[HerrRudi]

To add to your N4 analysis, nhammen is far more experienced than me if you consider the semi confirmed pool. It makes sense to pick him over me, and you and City just to be thorough

[HerrRudi]

My biggest note so far concerns Jason's slot, but not his play. Venrob in his first post put Nekoko (johnny's slot) at L-1 in the first post. But Venrob later played it off as a still random vote and no big deal, whileNeither Johnny in his full game analysis or Nekoko make a stink over how terrible that play was

[CityElectric]

I should have listened to my gut all along...

I'm not sure why the mafia decided to keep you alive, Rudi. Nhammen looked like a more obvious choice to me, simply because he would lynch me and it would give the scum an instant win.

Okay, I think Rudi was saved by Pasch's protect N2, simply because the odds of it being different would be quite small. If not, well done Johnny and Rudi for taking a gamble N2.

Jason is scum, and that's the way it is. Can't make any more from it.

[JasonWazza]

Oh i would have figured that no-one would kill any of us 3 unless of course nhammen was scum.

P-Edit: yet you didn't vote.

[CityElectric]

Yeah, because I want to have everything covered. I may be impatient, but I'm not stupid.

[JasonWazza]

Or your hoping that i might still vote herr, that is how it seems to me.

[CityElectric]

Why the f*ck would I hope for that?

VOTE: JasonWazza

[HerrRudi]

Okay even though I've been asserting Jason as likely town and that I almost wanted to lynch you yesterday?

Killing the IC before lylo just seems like smart play

[CityElectric]

You've been more swingy than Nhammen on your lynches. Nhammen has been sold on me being scum since, well, I don't know how long. You've just recently jumped onto me. Which, quite frankly, will lose you the game.

[HerrRudi]

Yeah okay you can save me the I'm so town rhetoric as that isn't gonna save you.

Wouldn't you have more motivation to kill Nhammen than Johnny then?

[JasonWazza]

Well city you have proved that herr isn't scum or his a pain in the ass by not voting me for a hammer.

VOTE:CityElectric

Herr i'd still appreciate if you'd wait for that re-read of mine.

[CityElectric]

I'm afraid I don't understand your question, Rudi...?

[HerrRudi]

Sorry, I meant Jason.

Nhammen clearly stated his pecking order was Johnny --> City ---> Jason. Kill the guy set on you, right?

Jason what do you mean with that reread?

[CityElectric]

Indeed, the fact that he's dead kinda points to me, I know. However, I know what my role PM reads, so that's why it puzzles me that he's dead.

I'm going to say that Jason killed him to frame me.

[JasonWazza]

To convince you that city is scum.

As for nhammen, N1 seems like kill the IC, the latest one seems like kill the guy that is most likely to lynch the correct scum.

P-Edit: wow really?