The Dresden Files - Early Days Mafia (Bastard) - Over

[jasonT1981]

I'm not buying into the GrayICE scum thing, I believe he is playing like he does as town in games I have been in with him before. It's posts like 295 that lead me to this conclusion;. As town, I have often seen GrayICE declare people town or scum in this way.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Sixty, Shmugen, Shamrock, Klick and Kimor have been prodded.

Kimor and Shamrock will possibly be replaced if they are prodded again this game Day.

[curiouskarmadog]

did you read the beginning of my last post?

I dont care (at this point) if you believe it was a scum slip (though i do)

if it wasnt a scum slip/or it wasnt a big deal, why is he now suggesting that he didnt say it (day talk QT reference) when he did? why lie?

[jasonT1981]

My post was not in relation to the scumslip thing you are pushing.. my post was more in general on GI play all game compared to others I have seen him as town.

[curiouskarmadog]

My post was not in relation to the scumslip thing you are pushing.. my post was more in general on GI play all game compared to others I have seen him as town.

I'm not buying into the GrayICE scum thing,

????

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okay whatever, then please comment on the fact that grey is now backtracking on saying he said something about day talk...it is clear he did (whether you think it was a slip or not, not relative to this question). why do you think he is now backtracking on saying he did reference a day chat QT.

[sword_of_omens]

back from the weekend...

@Jason,
So which is it?

I am Mortimer Lindquist, an Ectomancer (whatever that is lol)

I used to live a world of magic but no longer do as I left it a long time ago, however I can channel the dead who have not been dead for more than one day cycle...and choose to open a QT to the dead and talk to a dead person at for that one day.

this is my active night action..

I believe I can use it at any time, but would probably to be best to use at the start of a day phase

and then go from there.

You mention it being your night action (so you would send in your request at night) but then you say you believe you can send it in at any time?

Also, not sure how anyone can say that this ability can’t be faked? It wouldn’t be that difficult to read an ISO and make something up, or say that Player X didn’t show up to the QT…There’s also the chance that Jason can be sporting that ability as scum…


Jason, are you a 1-shot?

[ICEninja]

Kortul, good catch on Kimor. That really does look like a blatant lie in order to avoid taking stances on controversial topics when he was indeed fully aware of the wagon that was on me.

I can see no town motivation to have zero opinion on this, especially considering how most people seem to agree I was scummy and deserved votes or the wagon on me was terrible at someone on it deserved votes. While the jason wagon was less controversial, it is still very discussion-worthy, especially considering how a vast majority of the player list felt he was at least suspicious, even if they didn't vote for him.

Kimor is second on my scum list now. Jason is still suspicious, but I want to see how his PR plays out.

[StefanB]

Okay

Unvote

Jason explain or eat your lynch.
How can you make conflicting statments about your rolePM?

Vote: Jason

[GreyICE]

Updating from page 11

Why do you think my comment had anything to do with daytalk?

I was talking about him being scum, you dumb shit.

Wait a minute? Are you now denying that you were mentioning daytalk?

It's hard to scumhunt when you're trying to track down the people in your quicktopic and it's unsuccessful.

"I'm discouraged, that's why I'm less active!"

Really scumbag? Really?

then enlighten me, what did this mean? when you say "it is hard to scumhunt, when you are trying to track down the people in your QT" when the fuck is he trying to scumhunt? at night?

BULLSHIT..

Yes, CKD.

When I said "track down the people in your quicktopic" I was referring to daytalk.

AND NOT THE FACT THAT EVERY SCUMTEAM ON MAFIASCUM GETS A GODDAMN QUICKTOPIC THAT THEY CAN CHAT WITH THEIR SCUMBUDDIES IN.

Can you link me to some games where you go full herpaderp, or is this your scumclaim?

[jasonT1981]

Okay

Unvote

Jason explain or eat your lynch.
How can you make conflicting statments about your rolePM?

Vote: Jason

Yea, I just re-read my PM.

It is at night only I can use this....

my last post was made without looking over my PM to confirm. Double checked and I can only do it at night.

[jasonT1981]

Jason, are you a 1-shot?

Yes, I only have enough magic left for it to be done once.

[curiouskarmadog]

Updating from page 11

Why do you think my comment had anything to do with daytalk?

I was talking about him being scum, you dumb shit.

Wait a minute? Are you now denying that you were mentioning daytalk?

It's hard to scumhunt when you're trying to track down the people in your quicktopic and it's unsuccessful.

"I'm discouraged, that's why I'm less active!"

Really scumbag? Really?

then enlighten me, what did this mean? when you say "it is hard to scumhunt, when you are trying to track down the people in your QT" when the fuck is he trying to scumhunt? at night?

BULLSHIT..

Yes, CKD.

When I said "track down the people in your quicktopic" I was referring to daytalk.

AND NOT THE FACT THAT EVERY SCUMTEAM ON MAFIASCUM GETS A GODDAMN QUICKTOPIC THAT THEY CAN CHAT WITH THEIR SCUMBUDDIES IN.

Can you link me to some games where you go full herpaderp, or is this your scumclaim?

awesome, so why did you say "why do you think my comment had anything to do with daytalk"?...or were you trying to get out of that corner I got you trapped in?

also yes, all scum teams get a QT. but dont fucking change what the issue is. not all scum teams get to fucking day talk.

[curiouskarmadog]

Okay

Unvote

Jason explain or eat your lynch.
How can you make conflicting statments about your rolePM?

Vote: Jason

Yea, I just re-read my PM.

It is at night only I can use this....

my last post was made without looking over my PM to confirm. Double checked and I can only do it at night.

ooooohhhh, well this changes things. I took your claim like you could do it multiple times..

this could have been used to see what knowledge the dead had...if at any point it was discovered as false, we could lynch jason...but, if he was telling the truth, could have helped a lot...lets say a cop gets killed or some wacky thing happens in the game, he could(have) helped explain some things.

but he is just a 1 shot?


@Jason, why did you not answer the question I asked?

[Shmugen]

Whoo, anger fight! Really though, CKD, you won't win the anger fight with Grey.

Thoughts: Though they've posted a little more, Sixty and Albert need more content. Lord knows I've been there with the busyness, but you gotta find some time somewhere.

I wish the Jason mistake was more revealing, but I'm still pretty confident that he isn't the play today. I'm still confident ICE is town, slightly now feeling Grey town, Kimor points are strong.

[StefanB]

309: JASON!!!!!!!
IF THIS IS TRUE, HOW THE HELL DID YOU FORGET THAT LITTLE DETAIL? WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED???????????

Sorry I had to do that.

About GreyIce I think about the slip I have to say, nope that is overinterpratation imho, don't see the daytalkslip.

Tierce/Vi: Why is GreyIce scum again? Any other reads???

CKD: Preview: Uh, Jason claimed One-Shot from the beginning?

I can't believe that ... in the moment...

[ICEninja]

Right, Grey. So all scum teams get a QT. So how could you be implying that I'm trying to track someone down, in my QT, during the day, without having daytalk?

You can't come here and claim that you meant talk to him at night, because that would be in direct contradiction to your slip.

Let's really look at the original slip:

It's hard to scumhunt when you're trying to track down the people in your quicktopic and it's unsuccessful.

This was in direct response to me saying how I needed time to re-read the thread. I said I would post the next day. You

very very clearly here imply that I'm waiting for someone in my QT to help me out

. You can not possibly deny this statement, and if you do I swear town better lynch you on the spot.

So. Care to try again, Grey?

[Konowa]

Pushes on jason are bad. Not liking Shamrock or sword.
Really don't know what to think of ICEninja. Unless he is an incredible actor, I'm starting to think more confused town than anything else (votes on him, fake claims being extensive, etc.)

Vote: Kimor

Thought Kimor was scum before, good with this.

At all, I'm in Sandy's way so posting over next week might be touch and go.

[Konowa]

Regarding GreyICE: I don't know what to think. I would like to see response to all of this.

[Konowa]

Feeling is that QT discussion is boiling down to semantics.

[StefanB]

I am not so sure about both sides of the slip beeing town.
Grey can be anoying in this game (although his last post was pretty funny), but I think he is town.
CKD not so sure.
IceGuy: Will hopfully not chance this again in my head, not a vote in the moment.
Jason okay the claim makes sense and that screwup would scum really make it?
Was hopping for somethink that could make it 100% sure, but would have to wait more.
Kimor is still very bad, ABR and Sixty unreadable (and Sixty imho in a bad place)

Unvote

Vote Kimor, the slot needs attention.

[Shamrock]

Also, why are people (and not just ICENinja) just instinctively believing Jason's claim? Is the idea of fakeclaims really new to you people?

interesting, so you think we should lynch him today anyway...not even try to see if it is true. it is not like he is claiming a doc that we cant really verify. there is potential here to maybe get some info. I dont think he could fake this. but I want to see. I think this is a plausible claim. I not sure if the role has anything to do with alignment, but if it is town, it could be useful. Sham, you don’t think the role could be useful?

How do you expect testing his claim to go, exactly?

"Jason, are you in a QT with the dead guy?"
"Yeah."

???

FWIW, though, I'm less interested in lynching Jason now than I was earlier.

[GreyICE]

Right, Grey. So all scum teams get a QT. So how could you be implying that I'm trying to track someone down, in my QT, during the day, without having daytalk?

You can't come here and claim that you meant talk to him at night, because that would be in direct contradiction to your slip.

Let's really look at the original slip:

It's hard to scumhunt when you're trying to track down the people in your quicktopic and it's unsuccessful.

This was in direct response to me saying how I needed time to re-read the thread. I said I would post the next day. You

very very clearly here imply that I'm waiting for someone in my QT to help me out

. You can not possibly deny this statement, and if you do I swear town better lynch you on the spot.

So. Care to try again, Grey?

So your implication here is that scum won't get quick topics until night 1 and that right now you have no idea who your scumbuddies are?

You are aware that you and CKD are the only people in this game who think this, right?

At this point I think the scum really do have day talk, and you've cooked up this plan to show off the "ultimate scum slip" to try and put me on the defensive. Which is not going to work.

What do you think of CKD, ICENinja? What do you think of ninja, CKD? You two are busy fellating each other in thread, but you have no opinions on eac others alignments?

And you two want me to believe you're both town?

Bullshit. I will avatar bet with anyone who wants to that at least one of you fucks is scum, and if you both flip scum my surprise level would be a fat fucking zero.

ICEninja, explain the exact slip now, in your own words, not the words of your incompetent scumbuddy.

[ICEninja]

So your implication here is that scum won't get quick topics until night 1 and that right now you have no idea who your scumbuddies are?

My implications aren't even remotely close to this. STOP MAKING SHIT UP THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TOPIC AT HAND.

You're circumventing everything I say to try and prevent you from getting nailed here, but I'm NOT going to let it happen.

ICEninja, explain the exact slip now

You're either pretending you don't get it (scum) or you're a moron at this point.

In post 194 I made this comment:

I'm feeling a bit discouraged about this game. Usually by this point in time, my scum hunting and pressuring is leading town towards a lynch. In fact, I'm typically one of the biggest driving forces behind the day 1 lynch. However, this game it just seems off. A point that I felt so sure about is turning up with nothing.

I'm going to read the game over tomorrow, hopefully with a little less bias this time around. Hopefully I'll get something fresh.

Then in post 200 you made this comment:

It's hard to scumhunt when you're trying to track down the people in your quicktopic and it's unsuccessful.

"I'm discouraged, that's why I'm less active!"

Really scumbag? Really?

Since you're obviously too slow to understand the interaction we have (I don't buy that shit, I don't believe anyone can really be THAT dumb), I got discouraged and promised to reread the game next day. You come back and make the comment that I can't seem to scum hunt without help from people in my quick topic.

So, playing along with you really not understanding the implications of this, you

very very clearly

implied that I was currently asking for help in my quick topic and not receiving it, and would therefore be inactive until the next day.

How could scum possibly do this? With day talk. It would not be physically possible for scum to do this without day talk.

How could anyone possibly know scum has day talk in this game?

BY BEING SCUM!

NOW, had you come back and said "of course I'm assuming scum has day talk, look at this game and this game and that game, it would suggest that there is a high likelihood of scum having day talk" then alright, fine, I understand why you made that comment. Nope, you didn't do that. You went around spouting nonsense that anyone with a brain realized had nothing to do with the point.

No, now

13 of your posts later

do you finally come in and try to deflect this after spending multiple posts confusing town about what the "slip" was actually about (apparently with jason's help, good bet for scum buddy once you flip). You failed to discredit me, you failed to confuse me, and I will not give up.

[ICEninja]

EVERY SINGLE PLAYER WHO ISN'T VOTING FOR GREYICE RIGHT NOW, PLEASE ANSWER THIS QUESTION:

Why would town GreyICE, who apparently really has assumed scum had day talk all this time, try so hard for so long to ignore this, when he's (more or less) responded to all the other points I've made against him? Is innocent town, who made a comment about an explainable assumption he made, going to do this? Or is scum, who got caught slipping up, going to do this?

[Albert B. Rampage]

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