↑ GreyICE wrote:Sixty wrote:GreyICE is still full of etc. When Town, GreyICE actually shows some semblance of reasoning. Unlike some players who do it regardless of alignment (MoI and Thor for one), Grey-Town does not argue just to win arguments. The way he is behaving around ICEninja in particular is especially indicative of this, as he keeps distorting everything ICEninja says as having scum intent, when it is very clear, should he back off for a moment (which Town Grey does, that :ANGER: is a pretty façade), that ICEninja is several levels of obvTown out of his element.
This pretense at righteous tunneling is all levels of fake and makes our little nose twitch in severe disapproval. We can hang him from a leash, if people are unwilling to provide the rope.
Hey Vi, did you notice that your "case" on me was FACTUALLY INCORRECT?
I know you now want to get down to the "touchy feely" but I'm not buying it.
What is your read of CKD btw? I notice that you're talking a lot about the person who you "think is town" and not my other scum read, who happens to be one of the leading wagons.
Tell me, Vi, what is your read on CKD?
You're cute (especially when you have no idea who you're :RAGING: at~). Our case is not "factually incorrect" in any manner. No matter how long you have been attacking ICEninja and curiouskarmadog, you have been doing so with poor reasoning and rabid tunneling that does not fit GreyICE Town. As we said before, you are being completely unreasonable and taking refuge in this façade of super pushing the easiest wagons in this thread, and this playerlist is buying your pretense at :righteousness: hook, line and sinker. It's funny how you'll barely approach stronger, more collected players and instead go after the blunderers. And by "funny" we mean "obvscum".
↑ Zdenek wrote:Sixty, what games are you using for your GreyICE meta and can you explain why ICEninja is town of his depth?
↑ kortul wrote:@Sixty
, i'd like to ask you some more questions (besides those asked by others). I can see your point about GreyICE, do you have any links to his scum games? I want to form my own opinion but badly lacking time.
You two do not seem to know how meta actually works. It is not about cherry-picking through games to find the perfect match. It is not about getting three scum games and pointing to Exhibit A in Unique Instance #42; scum love to do that, when that is not effective, Town-rooted meta work; a player's meta is a fluid thing, and scum and Town 'behaviors' will migrate back and forth. It is about patterns, trends and
. Talking with GreyICE, in and out of game, will show that when he is truly trying to puzzle something out (i.e. scumhunting), he analyzes things thoughtfully. He analyzes players, behaviors and, most importantly,
motivations
. He is not doing that here in regards to ICEninja (and, on a slightly lesser level, curiouskarmadog). These lynches are incredibly easy, and Grey is throwing a tantrum and a bitchy fit every time he replies to one of their posts instead of truly looking at how likely their posts are to come from an alignment or another.
He is arguing to win an argument
. This is not Town GreyICE.
kortul, a brief example - Grey's attitude here does not match how his read on greenknight, Zang and jason evolved in Doctor Who. That alone should be ringing alarm bells for a good chunk of this playerlist. It's rabid tunneling, fake anger. There is nothing here that feels like Righteous Town GreyICE.
We will reserve discussion on other players for later times, as they are not relevant at present.
