Ladies Night 2: No Cover -- (Game Over)


Forum rules
User avatar
camn
camn
soundtracker
User avatar
User avatar
camn
soundtracker
soundtracker
Posts: 7530
Joined: April 14, 2008
Location: GMT +9

Post Post #1050 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:27 pm

Post by camn »

PiggyGal15 wrote:So, I haven't posted in four days... I also haven't really be reading this. I hate wall posts and that's all you people are doing. I tried to read them, you guys all seem to just be running in circles and I don't understand why Tracey hasn't be lynched yet.

boo.
"if you weren't trying to be so unnecessarily mysterious all the time we wouldn't have these misunderstandings" - Yosarian2
User avatar
TraceyLyn11
TraceyLyn11
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
TraceyLyn11
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 3696
Joined: September 28, 2011

Post Post #1051 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:54 pm

Post by TraceyLyn11 »

I have a throbbing head ache, and I am just beyond exhausted. Had an unplanned movie trip tonight, so what I thought was going to be time responding to all of this ended up being time in front of the big screen. I promise I'll do this tomorrow.
Show
A WILD
CHARIZARD
APPEARED!


Completed Games: 18

Ongoing Games: 0

Town: 8-5

Scum: 2-2

Currently Modding: 0


~Currently on a hiatus of an indefinite time period~
User avatar
RedCoyote
RedCoyote
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
RedCoyote
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 8036
Joined: October 19, 2008
Location: Houston, TX

Post Post #1052 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:07 am

Post by RedCoyote »

Vote Count 3 - 7

  • TraceyLyn11
    (4) (Amrun - PiggyGal15 - Brandi - camn)

    DrippingGoofball
    (3) (TraceyLyn11 - Fujiko - Huntress)

    Sucrose
    (1) (Seastormjt)

    springlullaby
    (1) (DrippingGoofball)

    Seastormjt
    (1) (Sucrose)

    Huntress
    (0) (
    Sucrose
    )

    Not Voting
    (2) (springlullaby - Eidolon)


With twelve alive, it takes seven to lynch.

Current Deadline:
(expired on 2012-11-06 20:10:00)
User avatar
DrippingGoofball
DrippingGoofball
Mafia Piñata
User avatar
User avatar
DrippingGoofball
Mafia Piñata
Mafia Piñata
Posts: 40176
Joined: December 23, 2005
Location: Bad Player Correctional Institute, for parole violations
Contact:

Post Post #1053 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:36 am

Post by DrippingGoofball »

Oh KRAP, we have only 3 days, and we've had nothing but incoherent nonsense from Seastorm, Fujiko is squirming around voting me for "information" and not asnwering questions, and we received a smatterinng of useless questions from springlullaby.

Springlullaby is the worst by far in completely avoiding to give reads for us to examine, and she's saying I'm bullying her into giving her reads to get her to come out of lurkage.
Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.

"Metadiving DGB is like playing Roblox" - T3
User avatar
PiggyGal15
PiggyGal15
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
PiggyGal15
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 1167
Joined: April 3, 2011
Location: In Canadia, eh?

Post Post #1054 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:38 am

Post by PiggyGal15 »

Thank you DGB, you gave my thoughts a lot more coherently than I could.

We're lynching Tracey, anyone who says otherwise is scum, and we'll lynch them in the following days.
User avatar
DrippingGoofball
DrippingGoofball
Mafia Piñata
User avatar
User avatar
DrippingGoofball
Mafia Piñata
Mafia Piñata
Posts: 40176
Joined: December 23, 2005
Location: Bad Player Correctional Institute, for parole violations
Contact:

Post Post #1055 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:58 am

Post by DrippingGoofball »

I'd like to see more votes on springlullaby & Seastorm to set their toes on fire.

Right now, Seastorm, TraceyLynn, Fujiko and Huntress are voting townies.

Springlullaby isn't voting (maybe that's part of her evil plan to not give information on her thoughts today).

Eidolon needs to check in and make the right decision.
Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.

"Metadiving DGB is like playing Roblox" - T3
User avatar
DrippingGoofball
DrippingGoofball
Mafia Piñata
User avatar
User avatar
DrippingGoofball
Mafia Piñata
Mafia Piñata
Posts: 40176
Joined: December 23, 2005
Location: Bad Player Correctional Institute, for parole violations
Contact:

Post Post #1056 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:03 am

Post by DrippingGoofball »

I'm not opposed to a TraceyLyn lynch.

I want you guys to remember to not let Seastorm, springlullaby and Fujiko get away with any nonsense or inconsistency. Like, if a player lurks and you demand that they show up and give you reads, and all you get from them is some lame attempt at putting other players on the defensive with weak questions when they should be delivering the goods, you can't let them get away with it. You have to promise me this.
Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.

"Metadiving DGB is like playing Roblox" - T3
User avatar
Huntress
Huntress
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Huntress
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 3457
Joined: February 26, 2008
Location: UK

Post Post #1057 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:51 am

Post by Huntress »

DrippingGoofball wrote:@ Huntress:

Please make a detailed case on Brandi, especially what it is that you find scummy in her post 1035, and please list "among other stuff."

If Seastorm is your top scumread, and I'm your second top scumread (or vice-versa, since your vote is on me), do you think I'm bus'ing Seastorm after bus'ing Telo on day 1?

Why is your so-called scum read on camn unsupported?

Please list the Tracey niggles.

1) That's a lower priority. I want to concentrate on re-reading you and Sea first. Actually it'll probably be Sea first as that looks like being more straight forward.
2) I wouldn't discount the possibility.
3) I had nothing to add to my previous comments.
4) That really goes back to some qualms I had about Flinter. I need to do some more cross-checking on Tracey but I'm not liking that she is being voted for what amounts to playstyle reasons and that she called Tammy town. Amrun is the only one who seems to have actually made a case on her but her claim as part of that case that DGB basically single-handedly derailed Tracey's wagon yesterday doesn't hold water, so I'm a bit dubious about it. I would appreciate comment from the others on that wagon (Spring, Camn and Piggy) about that as Amrun was suggesting that DGB wasn't killed in order to keep Tracy alive in view of the derailing and calling Tracy town.
.
User avatar
DrippingGoofball
DrippingGoofball
Mafia Piñata
User avatar
User avatar
DrippingGoofball
Mafia Piñata
Mafia Piñata
Posts: 40176
Joined: December 23, 2005
Location: Bad Player Correctional Institute, for parole violations
Contact:

Post Post #1058 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:58 am

Post by DrippingGoofball »

Huntress wrote:...that DGB wasn't killed in order to keep Tracy alive in view of the derailing and calling Tracy town.


I
did
call
a lot
of people town.
Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.

"Metadiving DGB is like playing Roblox" - T3
User avatar
DrippingGoofball
DrippingGoofball
Mafia Piñata
User avatar
User avatar
DrippingGoofball
Mafia Piñata
Mafia Piñata
Posts: 40176
Joined: December 23, 2005
Location: Bad Player Correctional Institute, for parole violations
Contact:

Post Post #1059 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:06 am

Post by DrippingGoofball »

Huntress wrote:

Please make a detailed case on Brandi, especially what it is that you find scummy in her post 1035, and please list "among other stuff."

1) That's a lower priority. I want to concentrate on re-reading you and Sea first. Actually it'll probably be Sea first as that looks like being more straight forward.

Deadline is approaching. Please explain the Brandi read. It should take you long since your mind is already made up, all you need to do is explain it to us. Please make it a priority.

Huntress wrote:
If Seastorm is your top scumread, and I'm your second top scumread (or vice-versa, since your vote is on me), do you think I'm bus'ing Seastorm after bus'ing Telo on day 1?

2) I wouldn't discount the possibility.

That's a non-answer. How likely do you think this is? What are the long-term benefits? How often have you seen this?
Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.

"Metadiving DGB is like playing Roblox" - T3
User avatar
Sucrose
Sucrose
Goon
User avatar
User avatar
Sucrose
Goon
Goon
Posts: 670
Joined: August 26, 2009
Location: Michigan

Post Post #1060 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:54 am

Post by Sucrose »

I would prefer quite a bit a seastorm or springlullaby (in that order) lynch to a Tracey lynch.
User avatar
DrippingGoofball
DrippingGoofball
Mafia Piñata
User avatar
User avatar
DrippingGoofball
Mafia Piñata
Mafia Piñata
Posts: 40176
Joined: December 23, 2005
Location: Bad Player Correctional Institute, for parole violations
Contact:

Post Post #1061 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:49 am

Post by DrippingGoofball »

K.

Here's what I'm going to do, deadline and all.

VOTE: Seastorm
Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.

"Metadiving DGB is like playing Roblox" - T3
User avatar
camn
camn
soundtracker
User avatar
User avatar
camn
soundtracker
soundtracker
Posts: 7530
Joined: April 14, 2008
Location: GMT +9

Post Post #1062 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:32 pm

Post by camn »

VOTE : SEASTORM
"if you weren't trying to be so unnecessarily mysterious all the time we wouldn't have these misunderstandings" - Yosarian2
User avatar
PiggyGal15
PiggyGal15
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
PiggyGal15
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 1167
Joined: April 3, 2011
Location: In Canadia, eh?

Post Post #1063 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:34 pm

Post by PiggyGal15 »

Someone wanna sum up a quick version of why Sea is scum?
User avatar
springlullaby
springlullaby
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
springlullaby
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 3770
Joined: January 13, 2008

Post Post #1064 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 1:16 pm

Post by springlullaby »

DrippingGoofball wrote:Oh KRAP, we have only 3 days, and we've had nothing but incoherent nonsense from Seastorm, Fujiko is squirming around voting me for "information" and not asnwering questions, and we received a smatterinng of useless questions from springlullaby.

Springlullaby is the worst by far in completely avoiding to give reads for us to examine, and she's saying I'm bullying her into giving her reads to get her to come out of lurkage.


You are misrepresenting me and avoiding to answer my questions.
But ok, I'd like you to tell me, were I scum, what do I gain by delaying to give my reads?
And are you seriously thinking that my having not voted yet is 'an evil master plan'?
Then there is the lurking bit that you seem to want to conflate in somehow, do you think it is alignment indicative for me to be lurking?

Those are serious questions and I'd like direct answers.

The I do like you but the bottomline to this is: you don't get to paint me 'as avoiding to give read' when you are the one who makes it difficult.
And yes your use of collective 'us' when addressing me is not welcome.

--------------------------------------
Town


Eidolon:
A bit lacking, but D1 still town enough.
TraceyLyn11 flinter:
Flinter I didn't like at all but I think Traceylynn's catch up is townish. Also TraceyLyn is voting DGB today with a big ass wagon on her, which I think shows genuine conviction especially since there is no one high profile backing her up.
Huntress:
Huntress thought process is unclear to me at times but there are 2 items in her D1 play that I see as solid towntells, her paranoia at Sucrose which I think is very indicative of town and her white knighting Telo just before the lynch, I just don't see scum doing that, I'm sticking with town.
camn:
I'm meh with the 'wagon ho's votes, but still rereading there are very town moments. I still like the CE vote D1 which is a really gut-bound aggressive vote that is very unlikely scum.

Null:
Brandi:
Brandi's play I still read as scummy. What is jumping up at me when rereading D1 her is the affirmation that Piggy is town. The thing is when objectively assessing Piggy's play at the time, there is nothing in her play that is town other than DGB calling her town. Then I think her D2 and today's play is not good, especially since I think Amrun's vote on Tracey is really meh. All her votes are kinda sheepish, she is like not pissing anyone off, and the only confrontation she had with me went away. But I do think her interaction with Telo looks genuine. I need to watch this spot because I think to some extent I'm been mollified
Amrun:
Meh vote on Tracey, if you take out the big wifom about DGB being alive, I see just a slip of the tongue tell that is very bleh.
PiggyGal15:
It is difficult to objectively assess Piggy, her spot is just somehow in the grey zone.


Scummish:

Sucrose:
I have a overall townish read, she makes very town comments at time on her but paranoid me is not liking her alignment with DGB after the whole big stuff with DGB clearing Sucrose because 'she is not dead'.
DrippingGoofball:
I really dislike like the massive outguessing the NK thing today which sounds fake and unusual, I've never seen this from her. The thing is she should know that not posting for stretches of time for me is not unusual, and answering questions in place of other is not town. On one hand I'm thinking that it is unwise as scum to be attracting so much attention to this fact on the other, I'm thinking that if she is going for it as scum, that would be the way to do it. I'm putting them in nullish scum but this is in reality an either/or scenario.


Scum:

Seastormjt:
I agree that the whole reason to vote Sucrose makes zero sense. And her interraction D1 with Telo was not good, with a bad vote on Huntress.
Fujiko:
Vote for information makes zero sense D3, especially when associated with '2 pages of reactions' and counting afterwards. You either want a flip or you analyse the reaction.

Vote: Seastorm
User avatar
Amrun
Amrun
Killed the Radio Star
User avatar
User avatar
Amrun
Killed the Radio Star
Killed the Radio Star
Posts: 22501
Joined: January 24, 2011
Location: East Coast US

Post Post #1065 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:16 pm

Post by Amrun »

@Huntress: Oh really, then who DID derail the wagon on Tracey if not DGB? DGB was calling for Tracey's death, then Tracey catches up, and DGB says "good catch" on Rach and votes there, and the momentum moves to Rach and off of Tracey.

@spring: Have you entirely missed my case on Tracey? There were other things in it.
I survived
Tigerpocalypse 2011


Fusion Mafia, ongoing now.
User avatar
Huntress
Huntress
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Huntress
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 3457
Joined: February 26, 2008
Location: UK

Post Post #1066 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:21 pm

Post by Huntress »

Seastormjt wrote:I said, my understanding of votal analysis is very shallow, but I know one thing: Scum tend not to vote right after each other (It's very difficult to fake, even if you know about it -- the votes come off as really awkward.)

This might mean more if you had included a timeline showing in which order people voted, showing all votes, but as it stands it's misleading. In at least one place you've cleared someone for voting next to possible scum when the votes were in fact one and a half days apart. That's not "right after each other".


DrippingGoofball wrote:
Huntress wrote:...that DGB wasn't killed in order to keep Tracy alive in view of the derailing and calling Tracy town.
I
did
call
a lot
of people town.

That is not relevant to my point. The only reason I can think of for you to cut out and quote just the end of that sentence is to try to draw people's attention away from the point I was making in the rest of the paragraph.

DrippingGoofball wrote:
Deadline is approaching. Please explain the Brandi read. It should take you long since your mind is already made up, all you need to do is explain it to us. Please make it a priority.

Yes, deadline is approaching. So I'm not going to be diverted into looking closer at a minor scum read when I've still got my thoughts on you to write up. No, my mind is not made up about Brandi. One dodgy looking post by itself isn't enough for that.

DrippingGoofball wrote:That's a non-answer. How likely do you think this is? What are the long-term benefits? How often have you seen this?

Well, I was going to say "I wouldn't put it past you!". Is that better? And no, I'm not going to let you distract me by getting into a theory discussion.

Amrun wrote:@Huntress: Oh really, then who DID derail the wagon on Tracey if not DGB? DGB was calling for Tracey's death, then Tracey catches up, and DGB says "good catch" on Rach and votes there, and the momentum moves to Rach and off of Tracey.

It was Tracey posting her reads that derailed the wagon, not DGB. She was just the first to leave it and return to her previous vote on the already existing Rach wagon. Piggy followed her but the others on the wagon moved their votes elsewhere.


I really, really want to lynch DGB so I'm leaving my vote there for the moment, but I've seen enough from what little there has been of Seastorm's posts to convince me she's a good lynch too so I'm prepared to switch.
.
User avatar
Fujiko
Fujiko
Goon
User avatar
User avatar
Fujiko
Goon
Goon
Posts: 338
Joined: June 8, 2012
Location: EDT

Post Post #1067 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:10 pm

Post by Fujiko »

springlullaby wrote:
Fujiko:
Vote for information makes zero sense D3, especially when associated with '2 pages of reactions' and counting afterwards. You either want a flip or you analyse the reaction.


Or I planned to analyze the reaction, but haven't yet had time.
User avatar
TraceyLyn11
TraceyLyn11
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
TraceyLyn11
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 3696
Joined: September 28, 2011

Post Post #1068 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:17 pm

Post by TraceyLyn11 »

Okay, I lied. I ended up being more busy today than expected. TOMORROW. Promisepromisepromise.
Show
A WILD
CHARIZARD
APPEARED!


Completed Games: 18

Ongoing Games: 0

Town: 8-5

Scum: 2-2

Currently Modding: 0


~Currently on a hiatus of an indefinite time period~
User avatar
camn
camn
soundtracker
User avatar
User avatar
camn
soundtracker
soundtracker
Posts: 7530
Joined: April 14, 2008
Location: GMT +9

Post Post #1069 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:48 pm

Post by camn »

Dear huntress,
I disagree with your read of DGB.
I think she is town here.

Please discuss,
camn
"if you weren't trying to be so unnecessarily mysterious all the time we wouldn't have these misunderstandings" - Yosarian2
User avatar
Huntress
Huntress
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Huntress
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 3457
Joined: February 26, 2008
Location: UK

Post Post #1070 (ISO) » Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:18 am

Post by Huntress »

Still working on it, but in the meantime could you respond to my request in post 1057. Did you take your vote off Tracey on Day two because DGB did?

@ Spring and Piggy: Can you reply to the above too please.
.
User avatar
DrippingGoofball
DrippingGoofball
Mafia Piñata
User avatar
User avatar
DrippingGoofball
Mafia Piñata
Mafia Piñata
Posts: 40176
Joined: December 23, 2005
Location: Bad Player Correctional Institute, for parole violations
Contact:

Post Post #1071 (ISO) » Sun Nov 04, 2012 3:59 am

Post by DrippingGoofball »

springlullaby wrote:
Scummish:

DrippingGoofball:
I really dislike like the massive outguessing the NK thing today which sounds fake and unusual, I've never seen this from her. The thing is she should know that not posting for stretches of time for me is not unusual, and answering questions in place of other is not town. On one hand I'm thinking that it is unwise as scum to be attracting so much attention to this fact on the other, I'm thinking that if she is going for it as scum, that would be the way to do it. I'm putting them in nullish scum but this is in reality an either/or scenario.

Scum:

Seastormjt:

Fujiko:


Vote: Seastorm


Wait what?

That's kind of a sign that someone is faking reads, when their "scum read" is trying to decimate the scum team by their own admission.

NO????

Springlullaby cannot possibly be town. I repeat: she agrees with my two biggest scum reads today. She knows I pushed hard to lynch Telo Day 1. So she thinks I bus'ed my buddy Day 1, and I'm trying to bus two more buddies today.

HOW COME NO ONE IS VOTING SPRINGLULLABY

In what universe does this make sense as scum reads?
Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.

"Metadiving DGB is like playing Roblox" - T3
User avatar
DrippingGoofball
DrippingGoofball
Mafia Piñata
User avatar
User avatar
DrippingGoofball
Mafia Piñata
Mafia Piñata
Posts: 40176
Joined: December 23, 2005
Location: Bad Player Correctional Institute, for parole violations
Contact:

Post Post #1072 (ISO) » Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:03 am

Post by DrippingGoofball »

springlullaby wrote:
But ok, I'd like you to tell me, were I scum, what do I gain by delaying to give my reads?

Duh.
Avoidance of scrutiny
. Being lazy because you don't need to ferret out the scum, you chat with them daily in the QT.

springlullaby wrote:And are you seriously thinking that my having not voted yet is 'an evil master plan'?

Saving it for the deadline hammer without showing your hand.


springlullaby wrote:do you think it is alignment indicative for me to be lurking?

Duh, yes.
Scum tends to lurk
. Ask camn.

springlullaby wrote:Those are serious questions and I'd like direct answers.


springlullaby wrote:you don't get to paint me 'as avoiding to give read' when you are the one who makes it difficult.

Oh, I make it difficult, so it's my fault you're not giving reads?

Hiss meow
Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.

"Metadiving DGB is like playing Roblox" - T3
User avatar
DrippingGoofball
DrippingGoofball
Mafia Piñata
User avatar
User avatar
DrippingGoofball
Mafia Piñata
Mafia Piñata
Posts: 40176
Joined: December 23, 2005
Location: Bad Player Correctional Institute, for parole violations
Contact:

Post Post #1073 (ISO) » Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:11 am

Post by DrippingGoofball »

Huntress may be scum. All she's done today is try to carry out an agenda of lynching me.

Huntress has not bothered to make an actual case on me, on anyone else, today. She promised details on her scumread of me, and has not delivered. WHY? Because she cannot make a case against me. Not a convincing one, and not one that I cannot completely blow out of the water with TRUTH.

So I'm thinking, the scum decided to NK Tammy because everyone had a town read on her, and to go for Sucrose (anticipating my help) today. But when I didn't cooperate, they switched gears, and decided to go after me. FOOLS - whether you lynch me today, or NK me tonight, the outcome is the same. YOU GAVE ME AN EXTRA FULL DAY OF RANTING AND RAVING. For this I thank you for I rarely survive more than a couple of nights in any game. It will cost you the game. 'Cuz I'm not finished with you today. And when you succeed in killing me, people will see my alignment, and my words will have added weight.
Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.

"Metadiving DGB is like playing Roblox" - T3
User avatar
DrippingGoofball
DrippingGoofball
Mafia Piñata
User avatar
User avatar
DrippingGoofball
Mafia Piñata
Mafia Piñata
Posts: 40176
Joined: December 23, 2005
Location: Bad Player Correctional Institute, for parole violations
Contact:

Post Post #1074 (ISO) » Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:19 am

Post by DrippingGoofball »

I may be wrong about TraceyLyn. I can be fooled sometimes. But I'll say this. Her reads may sound all wrong and wonky to me, but at least, she's put in the time in looking for scum. Wonky as it was, there was some internal consistency in its inconsistency, the consistency being that she looked at everyone with an open mind and what appeared to be fair and evenly applied criteria.

That was some major verbiage that she posted on Day 2. It's very difficult, as scum, to find such a pointless exercise worthwhile. Scum aren't really motivated to make such huge walls of posts (Mina is an exception). And TraceyLyn was stubborn about giving them all at once, I accused her of stalling. But when I saw the length of it, I realized that it did take her that much time, and she just didn't want to post it in bits. I can see the mentality, in the type of comments she made, the way she projects on the forum... if she's scum, she's very good scum. As to the slip of the tongue, I don't think I've ever seen one of those pan out even once in all the time I've been playing this game.
Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.

"Metadiving DGB is like playing Roblox" - T3
Locked