The Dresden Files - Early Days Mafia (Bastard) - Over

[curiouskarmadog]

@CKD people aren't calling Greyice town, so much as saying that the daytalk post was a scum slip - it's null because he could easily have made that post as any alignment

I'll admit I've mostly been skimming the Greyice posts where he attacks Iceninja because he pulled this "shouting scum at people" stuff last game where he was town, and other stuff has been competing for my attention. Need to go back and take a closer look, planning to do that on Sunday.

fuck the daytalk scum slip thing.....fuck it...look where he denied saying it...and now is avoiding my questions on the matter.

[curiouskarmadog]

Any argument about a QT on greyice is scummy and stupid as shit. Though i probably should read in detail what the other points on your case are.

fuck the daytalk scum slip thing.....fuck it...look where he denied saying it...and now is avoiding my questions on the matter.

[curiouskarmadog]

why is no one reading the game?

[MagnaofIllusion]

Vote Count 1.13 - As of post 453

GreyIce (3) - ICENinja, curiouskarmadog, Sixty
kortul (1) - Kimor
ICENinja (2) - Klick, GreyICE
Kimor (5) - Albert B. Rampage, kortul, Konowa, StefanB, Shmugen
curiouskarmadog (3) - Shamrock, fatlikepig, greenknight
Albert B. Rampage (1) - jasonT1981
jasonT1981 (2) - pidgey, sword_of_omens
StefanB (1) - Zdenek

The Current deadline is Wednesday, Novemeber 7 at 10:00 am EDT. Countdown is (expired on 2012-11-07 10:00:00).

With 18 active votes - 10 are required to lynch.

Activity Check - All currently good.

Mod Notes -
I will be LA as usual between today at 4:30pm EDT until Monday. Vote Counts, Prods, and other items may be delayed! Don't Panic! (oops wrong theme …)
Klick is V/LA til Tuesday November 6th.

[sword_of_omens]

busy day today...
i'll post a bit later before i run off on my V/LA for the weekend.

speaking of which..

@MOD: i will be V/LA for the weekend starting later this afternoon

Tag fixed.

[ICEninja]

CKD you're the one obviously not reading the game. Notice that I dropped the day talk slip?

Grey meant, by his comment, that I was hunting (he used the words tracking down, which is why it was confusing, it read as how we interpreted it but it's understandable how he meant it) the people in my quick topic. What he should have said was hunting down the people in my role PM.

Either way, Grey is still scummy as hell but you're voting him for a reason that's already been cleared in thread, and you're accusing other people of not reading the thread because they aren't pushing someone for a reason that's been made obsolete?

I hate to call out someone pushing the lynch I want but holy shit you're looking scummy now.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I have read and agree with some of the points made against greyice and iceninja.

What does that mean for your reads on the two players? Do you think that their interaction could be scum v scum?

Kimor case is not bad. Still more interested in lynching CKD, though.

I think they are both scummy individually. There were strong cases made for the two of them, which have not been remotely addressed. Kimor is just the low-hanging fruit of all the scummy players at the momenet, so I will rest my vote on him and cross my fingers more votes will follow.

[Shamrock]

Although GreyICE is screaming to the game at large what ICENinja is scum and needs to be lynched, he doesn't really seem to care what any individual players think of ICENinja. I posted an extremely wishy-washy appraisal of his case on ICENinja in my catchup post, in which I called his case weak but clearly invited further explanation (or attack). He completely ignored it and instead has been locked in a pointless argument with Sixty over Kimor, of all players.

He has also ignored other players who were dismissive of his case. Most obviously, when Sixty attacked his case as a "screamo [which] went way over the line from barely believable to cheesy", he first ignored it, and then when pushed further, attacked Sixty instead of showing why his ICENinja case was good/being misrepresented.

This behavior just doesn't look like it could come from town who actually thinks ICENinja is scum.

UNVOTE: curiouskarmadog
VOTE: GreyICE

[Albert B. Rampage]

Alright, screw it.

Unvote Kimor, vote GreyIce

Let's get something done today.

[GreyICE]

I'm okay with being a counterwagon to CKD-scum

Vote: CuriousKarmaDog

Lets make this happen.

Me or him, lets go.

[Klick]

Hmm.

Grey, I'm actually

requesting

self-meta here.

Who would be your 3 most likely partners in this game if you were scum, and why?

[Shmugen]

Dearest Sixty:

Pidgey - I think the bird is town this time around. Public momentum has fallen off Jason pretty far, and yet Pidgey has kept his vote there. There have been a bunch of wagons with varying momentums. I wish Pidgey would move on from Jason, but I'm pleased to have a town nailed down.

Zdenek - Considering he's been digging on every popular wagon so far, if he's scum, town is darn far off. He was a bit too much on the offensive early without making too huge an impact, but I think this one is also town, albeit a bigger risk than Pidgey.

Although GreyICE is screaming to the game at large what ICENinja is scum and needs to be lynched, he doesn't really seem to care what any individual players think of ICENinja. I posted an extremely wishy-washy appraisal of his case on ICENinja in my catchup post, in which I called his case weak but clearly invited further explanation (or attack). He completely ignored it and instead has been locked in a pointless argument with Sixty over Kimor, of all players.

He has also ignored other players who were dismissive of his case. Most obviously, when Sixty attacked his case as a "screamo [which] went way over the line from barely believable to cheesy", he first ignored it, and then when pushed further, attacked Sixty instead of showing why his ICENinja case was good/being misrepresented.

This behavior just doesn't look like it could come from town who actually thinks ICENinja is scum.

UNVOTE: curiouskarmadog
VOTE: GreyICE

Convincing.

VOTE: GreyICE

[Albert B. Rampage]

Signing his own death warrant.

[ICEninja]

I'm perfectly down with today's lynch being between CKG and Grey.

We all know where my preference stands.

A side note, I feel like a Grey scum flip invalidates my suspicions on CKG. His push on Grey sheeping my weakest reasoning, and continuing to do so after it was sufficiently explained, feels like either a bad scum push on town or bumbling town who happens to be pushing on someone who is probscum.

[curiouskarmadog]

I'm okay with being a counterwagon to CKD-scum

Vote: CuriousKarmaDog

Lets make this happen.

Me or him, lets go.

more avoiding questions, more lies.

Kimor is the leading wagon here, yet your my counter wagon?

why have you constantly not answer my questions?

[curiouskarmadog]

I'm perfectly down with today's lynch being between CKG and Grey.

We all know where my preference stands.

A side note, I feel like a Grey scum flip invalidates my suspicions on CKG. His push on Grey sheeping my weakest reasoning, and continuing to do so after it was sufficiently explained, feels like either a bad scum push on town or bumbling town who happens to be pushing on someone who is probscum.

is CKG me? if so, what has been sufficiently explained? if you say the scum slip thing I am going to fucking flip the fuck out. there is so much more to my case now then that and I have posted it at least 3 times...maybe more.

[ICEninja]

CKD sorry typo.

Was your 450/451 saying you no longer feel that he scumslipped? It sure looked like you're still pressuring him about it and getting on his case for not responding to you. When he had very clearly responded to the same point regarding me.

[fatlikepig]

there is so much more to my case now then that and I have posted it at least 3 times...maybe more.

No there isn't. It's all the same thing except now you're saying that GreyICE has been ignoring you on your accusations of him going back on his original statement. That case is equally as bad, given that it should be abundantly clear (no matter what you think of Grey's alignment) that Grey was talking about ICENninja hunting down people in his QT, that is, who were also scum with him.

[curiouskarmadog]

CKD sorry typo.

Was your 450/451 saying you no longer feel that he scumslipped? It sure looked like you're still pressuring him about it and getting on his case for not responding to you. When he had very clearly responded to the same point regarding me.

no, I am not saying that. I still feel like he scum slipped, but am willingly to accept that it is not as rare as I thought. those posts were essentially saying, "forget the scum slip thing, there are more points to my cases" you clearly have not read my case if you think I just talking about the scum slip.

I will boil this down again.

he scum slipped (maybe or maybe not)

THEN

he tried to back track that he ever said anything about day talking (scummy, he clearly did)

then I asked him to explain the sentence in question ( he has yet to do it, and now he completely avoiding my point. I caught him this lie, and the reason he is not answering it, is because he knows he screwed up)

now he is lying about other things (vi's attack of him)


what point are you saying he responded to?

[curiouskarmadog]

there is so much more to my case now then that and I have posted it at least 3 times...maybe more.

No there isn't. It's all the same thing except now you're saying that GreyICE has been ignoring you on your accusations of him going back on his original statement. That case is equally as bad, given that it should be abundantly clear (no matter what you think of Grey's alignment) that Grey was talking about ICENninja hunting down people in his QT, that is, who were also scum with him.

hint: this post has nothing to do whether his mention of day talk was scummy or not...(I think it is, but clearly I am alone in this.) this post is about him back tracking, avoiding, and lying.

OMG....did you see him say he wasnt talking about a day talk QT? yes or no..

did you see him answer my question "if you werent talking about daytalk, what does this post mean"? yes or no

I can provide the fucking posts yet again if you need them.

1.) if the daytalk slip wasnt scummy in grey's eyes, why did he try to suggest he wasnt talking about daytalk..

2.) now that I got him in a corner about his scummy back track, why do you think he isnt answering my questions.

do you think the above two points a pro-town? why?

do you think that grey is town? why?

[curiouskarmadog]

there is so much more to my case now then that and I have posted it at least 3 times...maybe more.

No there isn't. It's all the same thing except now you're saying that GreyICE has been ignoring you on your accusations of him going back on his original statement. That case is equally as bad, given that it should be abundantly clear (no matter what you think of Grey's alignment) that Grey was talking about ICENninja hunting down people in his QT, that is, who were also scum with him.

why are you defending him so much?

you are voting me for my scum slip catch, or you think I am making up a bullshit reason day one to attack someone.

but you have clearly not read my other points, or you are choosing to ignore them.

looking forward to you addressing my above post.

[ICEninja]

CKD,

he. did. not. refer. to. scum. having. day. talk.

He worded what he said in a way that indicated he did (which is why we both, and many others, interpreted it incorrectly) but we were wrong. It isn't a "maybe he did maybe didn't", it was a "it looked like he did, but he didn't".

AND HE DID RESPOND TO IT, just ridiculously late, and after insane amounts of discussion. Which is part of why I'm fairly certain he's scum. But if he isn't, then you are for sure.

[jasonT1981]

Emergancy V/LA - Jason is drunk and partying will be back tomorrow evening.

[curiouskarmadog]

Ninja please post the line u think I am referencing.

[ICEninja]

"It's hard to scumhunt when you're trying to track down the people in your quicktopic and it's unsuccessful."