Open 459: There is a New Scum in Town. Game Over Town Wins!

[the director]

vote fizz

The ol' reliable nervous first post tell. Complete with a smiley to ease the tension, over explanation next post edit, and fear that he's been caught on something dumb (confirmation method).

We can do whatever we want today, but fizz is defintely scum so his death needs to happen at some point. Preferably Day 1 lynch, but whatever you guys want is cool with me.

The director may also be scum because his post sounds like defending a VI, but aether's actions weren't VI. It tends to look better to defend the easy target than jump on them and I think that's what he was going for.

I've played with Aether before and he always does stupid stuff like that. Its NULL meta read.

VOTE: Fizz

Wagons are good. Depending on Fizz' reaction to an early wagon I might vote for kmd for try-harding so early.

[Fizz]

Wagons are indeed good. They get a discusion going. And via discussion you find scum. There is something about the aggresivness of kmd that doesn't sit right with me. No matter the role he might be, pressuring the new guy seems like a valid tactic to find out if he's scum or not. Cracking under pressure and all that. Could be a townie eager to get a discussion going. But on the other hand it could be scum trying to put as much attention as possible on the new guy, hope he makes mistakes and makes the town believe he is scum from that. I'm leaning more towards the 2nd choice here.

[Nobody Special]

Fizz: Are you scum?

[Fizz]

Fizz: Are you scum?

Why would you ask such a direct question? I don't think i have seen it in the couple of threads i skimmed over here. Seems to me like a way to make a guy claim. But that, from what i've read on the wiki, is a bad idea most of the time.

[the director]

^smells like a soft claim to me

[Nobody Special]

Thanks.

Vote: Fizz

[pirate mollie]

hhhmm...

[Fizz]

I really have no idea how to respond to that. Perhaps i'm overthinking it, but just saying no seemed like a bad idea. Looks like i was wrong.

Now i have 2 people deadpan on me being scum. Fun times. -_-

[uctriton00]

I confirmed via PM because I didn't see the link

Vote: Aether

So I don't get quickhammered again by him

[Declan_giggs]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Breakfast

Counterwagonz ho!

[Nobody Special]

I confirmed via PM because I didn't see the link

Vote: Aether

So I don't get quickhammered again by him

Can you link to a completed game where this happened?

[Majiffy]

VOTE: Aether
Town has no reason to look at/compare the VT and Goon PMs. Scum Goon does.

[the director]

You roll scum again Majiffy?

[penguin_alien]

Fizz, why didn't you actually say "no" anywhere in your reply to Nobody Special's question? Instead you questioned the question without answering it.

VOTE: Fizz

[Aether]

VOTE: Fizz because both of us are in another game too.

[Aether]

VOTE: Aether
Town has no reason to look at/compare the VT and Goon PMs. Scum Goon does.

It is called being a

Grammar Nazi

, if you know what I mean.

[RachMarie]

Vote Count 1.1


Aether (2) uctriton00, Majiffy
Majiffy (1) pirate mollie
Breakfast (2) Fe, Declan_giggs
Fizz (5) Kmd4390, the director, Nobody Special, penguin_alien, Aether



Not Voting

Malakittens, borkjerfkin, Breakfast, Fizz


With 14 it takes 8 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2012-12-01 16:09:23)

[Kmd4390]

vote fizz

The ol' reliable nervous first post tell. Complete with a smiley to ease the tension, over explanation next post edit, and fear that he's been caught on something dumb (confirmation method)

As expected. Someone was gonna overanalyze my first post. Posting smilies is my style. It's a way to express one self.

You forgot the nervousness, overexplanation, and fear. Also, "I post smilies" doesn't explain the need for one there specifically.

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Director, "try-harding" (although phrased differently) has been used as a reason against me in almost every games recently. If you'd like, I can quote/link to completed town and scum games where I've gotten that.

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Fizz, had no idea you were new until you said so. Also, why aren't you voting me if you think I'm scum? Afraid someone might call OMGUS?

Lmao at the lack of answer to "are you scum?". Fizz is sooooo scum.

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Uctri, thoughts on fizz?

Aether, do you have actual thoughts on fizz so far?

[Fizz]

Fizz, why didn't you actually say "no" anywhere in your reply to Nobody Special's question? Instead you questioned the question without answering it.

VOTE: Fizz

I'm bloody asking myself that now. I had it written, then deleted it. Like i said, overanalyzing stuff is the way i am. I wrote it in my other post, thought it was a bad idea, that it's too simple of a solution to the question, that it's like a statistical thing of "40% of people who type no are 100% scum" or something like that. I was also contemplating writing yes, just for the fuck of it at first.

VOTE: Fizz because both of us are in another game too.

Damn it. I wanted to write the exact same thing. You are reading my mind man. Get that mod in the other game to end night, he's gonna be 24 hours over deadline soon. I wanna see the reactions, because reading it was pretty funny.

You forgot the nervousness, overexplanation, and fear. Also, "I post smilies" doesn't explain the need for one there specifically.

Nervousness and fear? There was none of that at any point in any of my posts. I am guilty of overexplanation though, because that comes with my overanalyzing stuff. For you perhaps. For me that was a perfect point to put a smiley.

[Fizz]

Fizz, had no idea you were new until you said so. Also, why aren't you voting me if you think I'm scum? Afraid someone might call OMGUS?

Lmao at the lack of answer to "are you scum?". Fizz is sooooo scum.

Sorry for the double post, but i missed this when i was writing the other one. :/

Well, it's easy to check if someone's new. The join date is a pretty good indicator. So i'm not really buying that excuse.

Yes, that did cross my mind at a point. But i was also deciding whether i should put the vote up for Aether, for the same reason for which he voted for me.

Now think about this for a second. Why would you call me scummy for not directly answering the question. If i say no, i'm not, you get to square one. From what i'm thinking, scum would definitely just say no. Why risk exposing yourself as scum (if you're scum), by writing more stuff, when you can just say no and leave it at that. That was my thought process.

[uctriton00]

back home

Nobody Special: yes in this instance Aether skipped the intent to hammer step and went ahead with it.

[Kmd4390]

So fizz admits he was afraid of looking scummy by answering the "are you scum" question. Isn't that the entire purpose of asking loaded questions? Seeing if you can make someone nervous like that?

And yeah I don't bother checking join dates every time someone posts. Right now, the fact that you are new means absolutely nothing to me right now.

Guys, is the last paragraph of 44 an accidental scum claim?

[Nobody Special]

Guys, is the last paragraph of 44 an accidental scum claim?

Sure looks like it to me.

[Malakittens]

Fizz is over explaining things. Reads to me as he's over caring what others think of him.

[Majiffy]

You roll scum again Majiffy?

Nope. You can sheep me care-free this time.

VOTE: Aether
Town has no reason to look at/compare the VT and Goon PMs. Scum Goon does.

It is called being a

Grammar Nazi

, if you know what I mean.

Still doesn't address the reason that town has no reason while scum does. But cute hand-wave.