The Dresden Files - Early Days Mafia (Bastard) - Over

[Thor665]

Well, I was actually calling you out for not using scumtells correctly and also skimming and wanting to know you call on *my* case.

But...yeah, sure, continue the no read and lying trend.

[Sixty]

There was no misapplication of scumtells. We are saying that your scumread on jason is flawed and adding that we don't particularly care about it because you're probably scum.

Your so-called scumread on ABR is still ridiculous. The discussion of this 'slip' was not interesting Yesterday and is not interesting Today.

tl;dr: You are boring and there is nothing new and/or interesting in your analysis of anyone so far. Go accuse someone else of "skimming", "not reading" and "lying"; we are through with this silliness.

[Thor665]

Sixty is scum.

[ICEninja]

Hmm. Well, a town flip of Klick would almost certainly give us a scum lynch on green. Which I like. It would also give me very strong reason to believe Thor is indeed scum. It would make for one of the most optimal mislynches we could get.

And obviously if Klick is scum then that's a win right there; I'm fine with starting day 3 with knowledge that my night action isn't useful, little to go on, but 2 scum dead.

I'll hold my vote for the moment as I'm not really sure if I want to see this speed lynched, but there are now some very compelling reasons to lynch Klick.

[Thor665]

What's your read on the Thor/Sixty interaction. because either I'm being shockingly unreasonable and don't realize it - or he is looking scummy and dodgy as all get out.

[pidgey]

Yeah im willing to believe SoO on this one. Klick is now probably just being ridiculous and the fact that he "copped" green and that soo got that message is just fishy for klick.

This doesnt make SoO and green confirmed town since multiple scum teams and all but yeah, happy to lynch scum klick. Thor would be town or not grey/klick team through this so its all good.

Vote klick

[greenknight]

Hmmm.

So I don't think Sword would lie about this as scum. It's not worth putting himself in a position where he'd force a Klick lynch who was suspicious anyway and might well flip town as some sort of semi-troll role Insane/Paranoid Daycop Vig. And then he'd be stuck in a 1v1 with me, and I have more town cred than he does.

However: the fact that a fairy delivered the message makes me suspicious whether it can be trusted in the first place, given that we have "Unseelie Court" scum in the game (evil fairies) and this 1-in-3 scenario could be awfully convenient for scum if they're capable of just sending a fairy with any info they want.

[greenknight]

Don't hammer klick. I want a fullclaim.

[ICEninja]

What's your read on the Thor/Sixty interaction. because either I'm being shockingly unreasonable and don't realize it - or he is looking scummy and dodgy as all get out.

I like your reasoning for ABRscum and jasonscum more than Sixty does. However, I don't think Sixty is scum.

If he was "delivered a message" by a fairy, it would not be a member of either court. While this isn't revealed in the first 3 books, the lesser fay that wizards call upon aren't aligned one way or another. Said fairy would, by compulsion, have no alignment at all except perhaps to Harry himself, who literally bribes them with pizza.

While the lesser fay are easily distracted, I think this plays more in to who was told the message, as in the books to my memory their information was ALWAYS accurate and helpful.

[ICEninja]

And I agree, I would like a 100% full claim from Klick, paraphrase everything in the role PM.

[pidgey]

Whatever comes from a fullclaim by klick will more than likely be a lie though.

[Thor665]

@Pidgey - I feel like you're the most abrupt of the 180s - thoughts?

[Thor665]

I like your reasoning for ABRscum and jasonscum more than Sixty does. However, I don't think Sixty is scum.

Do you see town logic in how he's discussing the ABR case with me?

[pidgey]

The coincidence in klick having a scum cop result on green when SoO also has some sort of information that tights green and klick apperantly is all too big of a coincidence. Someone is lying and i think its kondi.

Dint believe 100% you are town thor since multiball etc but you are not alligned with kondi im sure, which in turn makes me much less suspicious of you.

[curiouskarmadog]

lol

I go away for a couple hour and look at this....

[ICEninja]

Do you see town logic in how he's discussing the ABR case with me?

Considering how, at the moment considering the information we have, I'm not any more interested in discussing it with you than Sixty, yes I can.

[Thor665]

You guys are either out of your gourds or somehow incapable of carrying on a conversation about something else while waiting for a lurker. What are we supposed to do while waiting for him? Grunt and groan and mumble about how he needs to come back and respond?

[curiouskarmadog]

I dont think this needs to be said but...

Georgia Borden. Not fullclaiming, but I have a Daycop ability. Thor is not town-aligned.

VOTE: Thor

My result says that greenknight is not town.

these are differently worded results.

[Thor665]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that even though Klick is not town, that's not proof of it.

[ICEninja]

Look, Thor. You've presented your opinion of ABR. I feel you've got a decent point. Sixty disagrees with you.

If you'd like to share your opinion of ABR again, I'll be happy to somewhat agree with you again while Sixty dismisses it as non helpful information again.

[Thor665]

The thing is - Sixty didn't even understand what I was talking about when he dismissed it.
That proves he's not reading.
Then he tries to bluster by it again and acts like I'm ridiculous for pointing it out.

You then say this is normal.

[Thor665]

I mean, if his reply when I had pointed it out had been 'aw...yeah, I hadn't remembered that/skimmed over it...meh, it's still dumb' okay - vague point.
But functionally he denied that he hadn't read it and also denied that he hadn't recalled it and just said I was derp for trying to even talk to him.
He was trying to bum rush my lynch and shock and awe away from me catching him in the lie.

[fatlikepig]

UNVOTE:

I'm going to read greenknight sometime. I'll also look at Thor now that I'm unsure of my sanity.

If you've just become doubtful about your sanity, why the hell did you take your vote off Thor yesterday?

[Thor665]

*cough*becausehe'slying*cough*

A solid question from which I suspect wonderful insights shall spring.

[ICEninja]

Why is it the only person I think is who they say they are is the only lynch that makes sense?

And why does that echo my life so depressingly well? -_-