Open 459: There is a New Scum in Town. Game Over Town Wins!

[Malakittens]

Policy lynches to me are considered scummy.
Sometimes they are justified, but other times they are just unfair.

I'll PL lurkers, but that's about it. Plus the lurkers have to do it more when scum rather than town.

[borkjerfkin]

That wasn't really Mollie's point though -- the point was that Majiffy's #210 seems to indicate that Aether was more a policy lynch than that thing about "reading role PMs => scum" which seems contradictory.

[borkjerfkin]

Also:

Policy lynches to me are considered scummy.
Sometimes they are justified, but other times they are just unfair.

These two sentences don't seem to make sense together.

[Malakittens]

Like I said it depends on whom it is.

Example: a player lurks more as scum rather than town. If they show that same decision in the game we are playing and the case is justified beyond a shadow of a doubt, I'll vote them.

If the PL is because someone doesn't like them or their play style I won't vote them.

Make sense now?

[borkjerfkin]

Sure. That's more a meta case than a PL but I see no need to argue semantics.

[pirate mollie]

That wasn't really Mollie's point though -- the point was that Majiffy's #210 seems to indicate that Aether was more a policy lynch than that thing about "reading role PMs => scum" which seems contradictory.

exactly.

re: policy lynches. I don't want to spend too much time on this and derail the game but on very rare special occasions do I agree with them. majiffy doesn't go around willy nilly policy lynching without good reason. I would have supported him even though he didn't do shit to help me with jerome on another site.

that he instead tried to paint aether as scummy rather than just go with a policy lynch kind of looks scummy to me.

[penguin_alien]

Last survivor, upon rereading Fizz's iso, not only is he not actually answering the initial 'are you scum?' question, but he also isn't both scum hunting and defending himself. His posts are all concerned with replying to the accusations from others, to the point where he has yet to place a vote of any kind. I find that anti-town enough to be good with my vote where it is for now.

My read on the Majiffy-Aether situation would be that it wasn't a policy lynch situation until Aether's site record came fully to light. If Majiffy were scum trying to get Aether taken down as an easy target either for his bizarre actions or his track record, his recusing himself from the situation doesn't follow. I read Majiffy as leaning town based on that.

[uctriton00]

Re-read the game, and lol @ Majiffy being replaced because he doesn't like a player, and then coming back. It makes me think that all the Aether suspicion wasn't scum, but it's just all bias against him. I have all of those reads against his slot as null and not even remotely game-related.

Fizz got quiet REAL quick after the bandwagon built. I think you defend the **** out of yourself, but if it's his first game, I see that as newb town who got scared to die and stopped posting so much. Majiffy pointed out KMD's case on Fizz. I'll buy that. KMD's flip buys Majiffy's flip, and probably Fizz's flip too. I don't see Majiffy going out of his way to defend someone he doesn't know his alliance of.

I've played with Mala before, he knows wtf he's doing in this game. I have him as town.

[uctriton00]

Vote: KMD

[Number Six]

@Bork and Mollie: Why is Breakfast scummy, I'm only getting a weak (in the sense of them not being good at it) attempt to scumhunt.

[Malakittens]

Uct: she, she.. Not he..

[Lastsurvivor]

VOTE: Fizz

Best place for my vote now. Rationale is pretty much what other people have been saying. End of post #44 doesn't seem like it's been posted from a town perspective, and he really hasn't addressed that point.

Whats the rationale behind Kmd lynch?

Also I'm not giving out my precious list sorry.

QUESTIONS 4 PEOPLE

Bork - Why did you switch your vote from Kmd to Breakfast? Also, why did you go from defending fizz to saying that Fizz isn't a bad wagon?

NS - If you still think Fizz is scum, then why are you voting Kmd, who is one of the biggest Fizz scum supporters?

the director - Explain why everyone you think is scum is scum.

[Kmd4390]

Uct, so you are lynching for information, not for scum?

[Majiffy]

Is that some sort of coded message there, with the italics?
There used to be a greying tower alone on the sea.
Very poetic

Y

ou will figure it out soon enough.

I can't read Majiffy either; I disagree with pretty much everything he's said this game and that's rare. #221 is ?

Dunno what to say, mang. Maybe I

b

ecame retarded when this game started. I'm sure I'll see

t

he

l

ight soon enough.

majiffy, if you wanted aether policy lynched why did you not just say so instead of creating some bogus case on him?

Case

o

n him wasn't bogus. I still find

t

he whole situation scummy, and his reaction by deliberately ignoring incredibly clear questions even scummier.

re: policy lynches. I don't want to spend too much time on this and derail the game but on very rare special occasions do I agree with them. majiffy doesn't go around willy nilly policy lynching without good reason. I would have supported him even though he didn't do shit to help me with jerome on another site.

that he instead tried to paint aether as scummy rather than just go with a policy lynch kind of looks scummy to me.

I wasn't around during most of that day phase so how could I have helped you?

Also you're still in the

d

ark on my posts here. Try re-reading carefully and see my

s

ide. Be a little more understanding

o

f

m

e.

Also, Lastsurvivor is a good lynch too.

[Lastsurvivor]

Also, Lastsurvivor is a good lynch too.

Because I'm not voting your scumspect?

Oh I've missed playing with you maj.

[Malakittens]

LS:

Why do you think it's a good thing to hold out your list of reads?

[uctriton00]

Uct, so you are lynching for information, not for scum?

You're the best lynch.

[Kmd4390]

Uct, so you are lynching for information, not for scum?

You're the best lynch.

Yet this doesn't answer my question.

Do you even believe I am scum or are you just lynching for info?

[borkjerfkin]

Bork - Why did you switch your vote from Kmd to Breakfast? Also, why did you go from defending fizz to saying that Fizz isn't a bad wagon?

Breakfast is scummier than Kmd -- pretty much for 116 and 169. 116 parrots a dubious accusation from Majiffy to hop on Aether, and 169 gives the impression that there's nothing Aether could've said that would have let him off the hook.

#119 is not a defense of Fizz, it is an indictment of Kmd, who I think has gotten better since I made that post. Fizz hasn't done anything since except avoid the thread and the little bit of IIoA in #160.





Willing to trust Majiffy until I see what this italics business is about. What's wrong with LS though?

[Nobody Special]

See, I have the opposite reaction to Majiffy's funny business in italics. I don't like it, not one little bit.

[borkjerfkin]

Well, he pretty much HAS to explain it at some point or be lynched, so we'll wait for that to happen.

[uctriton00]

Do you even believe I am scum

Yes I do.

It's a rather hardline stance you declared Fizz to die in this game, that's too easy of a buyout for a mislynch attempt on a townie.

[Kmd4390]

So..

I'm scum for having a strong scum read on someone you somehow know to be town?

[Majiffy]

See, I have the opposite reaction to Majiffy's funny business in italics. I don't like it, not one little bit.

Don't like it,

l

ove it! Why have you

r

emained under the radar in regards to the actual happenings in the game, btw? Seems like you just pop in, change

a

vote, pop out and wait until you can change it again.

Well, he pretty much HAS to explain it at some point or be lynched, so we'll wait for that to happen.

You'll have to

d

rug me to get it out of me!

T

hat's

t

he only way! Gunna have to get me

h

igh

a

nd shit.

N

ot really.

T

he reason for all of this will be apparent in about two posts. Take a chill

p

ill.

[Number Six]

Okaaay, so you're encoding "kiss from a rose" in your posts. The question is still -- Why?

I'm active lurking??..

Yes you are.