Open 459: There is a New Scum in Town. Game Over Town Wins!

[the director]

Vote: the director

That's just stupid.

So scum is you and bork? Thanks GG.

[borkjerfkin]

you should have no problem voting NS with me then

[Majiffy]

Majiffy - we are not on the same page and I do not understand why and it makes me suspicious.

Fe

Mafia Goon

was lynched Day One

Get on my page, eh?

VOTE: KMD
Numero dos.

C'mon kids, follow the flow-chart.

[uctriton00]

I missed all of Friday.

Nacho is in this game, and he was (almost) wrong again. That is splendid.

I want to hear from Fizz

[Majiffy]

Fizz is being prodded or replaced or something.

[Majiffy]

Since Fizz has not responded to my prod, I will be replacing him.

[uctriton00]

>_>

[Majiffy]

It's ok, you can join me on KMD instead.

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: NS

That wagon hop off/on was really awkward.

IAWTP

VOTE: nobody special

[Majiffy]

Mollie you're not doing the flow-chart right.

[pirate mollie]

oh I think there is a distinct possibility that kmd might be scum but I want to test something out!

[Majiffy]

That's how the Holocaust happened.

[the director]

That's how the Holocaust happened.

False. Requires more Hitler.

[Majiffy]

Hitler was just a poster-boy.

[pirate mollie]

conspiracy theorist spotted ITT

[Majiffy]

[Kmd4390]

To do list:
-look at fizz vs fe again
-ISO fe
-finish to do list

Nobody special might be scum but for some reason the "I don't bus" thing looks genuine.

The director definitely could be scum. I didn't like him yesterday and his start to today is rubbing me the wrong way.

Either fizz is town or we were awesome on Day 1. I'm not ruling out awesome, but if
there is some telling stuff in fizz vs fe, I'll go with FizzTown.

I want to look at uct a little bit.

[penguin_alien]

For what it's worth, I consider the director to be a strong town read. He jumped around with his vote a bit at the start of last day phase, but he was the first to call out Fe and didn't relent anywhere for the rest of the phase. That would be a pretty hard bus to swallow. Which is making me look rather askance at Nobody Special.

His whole Day One attitude of 'let's see what happens' that he still hasn't explained to anywhere near my satisfaction (the whole, 'I think Fizz is scum, but why not vote his main detractor instead?' dealio) was making me leery, but his response to opening events of this phase is even worse. His response for being called on his late move to the Fe lynch is to say:

And you find that scummy?

...which i think is what borkjerfkin just said. He isn't voting you because he thinks the actions he pointed out were pro-town, that's for sure. And then you say:

But I don't generally bus.

which is just a complete non-starter. So you don't generally bus. That doesn't mean you never bus or that, from such a self-aware vantage point, you wouldn't mix up your meta. Overall that constitutes a lousy argument and looks like you're stalling to buy time to shift attention, or come up with reasons, or hope your detractors tie their own nooses.

Speaking of reasons, looking back at the Day One votes Nobody Special placed, they were for (in order) Fizz, Aether, Kmd4390, Fe, Nachomamma8, and Fe. None of these came with a real case. Fizz was a reaction test, Aether was "kill it with fire", Kmd4390 I've covered already, Fe was 'walking too fine a tightrope', Nachomamma8 boiled down to 'why not' and Fe was, 'Okay.' Talk about blending in and not leaving a trail when at all possible.

I'm good with VOTE: Nobody Special given all that.

[uctriton00]

Fe has two sets of town reads in his iso:

456 = Majiffy, Nobody Special, KMD
473 = Nobody Special, Last Survivor, KMD, borkjin

Nobody Special, was scum Fe trying to protect you?

[Nachomamma8]

was he trying to protect kmd?

[pirate mollie]

For what it's worth, I consider the director to be a strong town read. He jumped around with his vote a bit at the start of last day phase, but he was the first to call out Fe and didn't relent anywhere for the rest of the phase. That would be a pretty hard bus to swallow. Which is making me look rather askance at Nobody Special.

His whole Day One attitude of 'let's see what happens' that he still hasn't explained to anywhere near my satisfaction (the whole, 'I think Fizz is scum, but why not vote his main detractor instead?' dealio) was making me leery, but his response to opening events of this phase is even worse. His response for being called on his late move to the Fe lynch is to say:

And you find that scummy?

...which i think is what borkjerfkin just said. He isn't voting you because he thinks the actions he pointed out were pro-town, that's for sure. And then you say:

But I don't generally bus.

which is just a complete non-starter. So you don't generally bus. That doesn't mean you never bus or that, from such a self-aware vantage point, you wouldn't mix up your meta. Overall that constitutes a lousy argument and looks like you're stalling to buy time to shift attention, or come up with reasons, or hope your detractors tie their own nooses.

Speaking of reasons, looking back at the Day One votes Nobody Special placed, they were for (in order) Fizz, Aether, Kmd4390, Fe, Nachomamma8, and Fe. None of these came with a real case. Fizz was a reaction test,

Aether was "kill it with fire"

, Kmd4390 I've covered already, Fe was 'walking too fine a tightrope', Nachomamma8 boiled down to 'why not' and Fe was, 'Okay.' Talk about blending in and not leaving a trail when at all possible.

I'm good with VOTE: Nobody Special given all that.

weird. cos I thought majiffy said it wrt fe.

[the director]

Alrighty back to posting serious.

For what it's worth, I consider the director to be a strong town read. He jumped around with his vote a bit at the start of last day phase, but he was the first to call out Fe and didn't relent anywhere for the rest of the phase. That would be a pretty hard bus to swallow. Which is making me look rather askance at Nobody Special.

The problem with Fe is that he was so obviously scum and so bad at defending himself that I can see one or both of his buddies long bussing him almost from the moment I called him out and Fe started to stumble. Here are the people who had interactions with Fe that struck me as off:

Bork was on the fence about Fe for most of yesterday, and never ended up on his wagon. I wanted to mess with him for a bit.

Nacho comes out of the gate and calls Fe "town" and a bad lynch, but ends up voting for Fe. Was Nacho initially trying to save Fe and then surrendered to the fact the guy was found?

Majiffy - he has no qualms with long-bussing, but meta alone isn't enough. My biggest 'wtf' moment yesterday was when Fe posted his reads calling Majiffy super town and "town leader" (Post #456), and then in his very next post Majiffy plummets to scum in Fe's reads (Post #473) . In between Fe's two posts pirate mollie makes a very awkward "lol wouldn't it be funny if Fe just called out his scum buddies".

Here is what I think happened. Fe knew he was going down so Fe tried to help out his scum buddy Majiffy by calling him town leader. When pirate called him out on that, Fe quickly scrambled and plummeted Majiffy to scum with very weak reasoning ... something along the lines of "I read the game again and decided Majiffy is scum". Majiffy then responded by saying Fe claimed scum in an obvious distancing and hard bus.

Pirate is pure null to me.

NS' back and forth makes no sense from a scum perspective when Fe was receiving so much heat. He is a pretty blatantly the fall guy right now.

VOTE: Majiffy

[Lastsurvivor]

Here is what I think happened. Fe knew he was going down so Fe tried to help out his scum buddy Majiffy by calling him town leader. When pirate called him out on that, Fe quickly scrambled and plummeted Majiffy to scum with very weak reasoning ... something along the lines of "I read the game again and decided Majiffy is scum". Majiffy then responded by saying Fe claimed scum in an obvious distancing and hard bus.

Excellent point on Maj.

VOTE: Majiffy

Although Mollie's inclusion in the narrative isn't alignment indicative.

Director seems town now that he's not antagonizing people. NS I don't see the case on, for reasons I'll keep to myself until he responds I guess.

[penguin_alien]

pirate mollie:

unvote

Vote: Aether

Kill it with fire.

Majiffy said it later in #432 WRT Fe.

[uctriton00]

Majiffy - he has no qualms with long-bussing, but meta alone isn't enough. My biggest 'wtf' moment yesterday was when Fe posted his reads calling Majiffy super town and "town leader" (Post #456), and then in his very next post Majiffy plummets to scum in Fe's reads (Post #473) . In between Fe's two posts pirate mollie makes a very awkward "lol wouldn't it be funny if Fe just called out his scum buddies".

Here is what I think happened. Fe knew he was going down so Fe tried to help out his scum buddy Majiffy by calling him town leader. When pirate called him out on that, Fe quickly scrambled and plummeted Majiffy to scum with very weak reasoning ... something along the lines of "I read the game again and decided Majiffy is scum". Majiffy then responded by saying Fe claimed scum in an obvious distancing and hard bus.

Didn't notice the Majiffy drop. That makes calling NS town looks more like a kissup then.

Vote: Majiffy