Open 459: There is a New Scum in Town. Game Over Town Wins!

[Maenara]

No longer like Director lynch. His posting is doing well enough.

Mollie has been agreeing too much with people, compared to what she usually does. Would like to see more activity there, as I know she can provide it.

Not sure about Penguin. Will need to read more closely.

In agreement about KMD, will vote for now.

VOTE: KMD

Don't think basing votes on the 'slip' is worth it yet.

[the director]

Although Mollie's inclusion in the narrative isn't alignment indicative.

Her response to it certainly will be, though.

[the director]

Don't think basing votes on the 'slip' is worth it yet.

Explain.

[RachMarie]

Vote Count 2.1


Nobody Special (3) borkjerfkin, pirate mollie, penguin_alien
the director (1) Nobody Special
Kmd4390 (2) Majiffy, Maenara
Majiffy (3) the director, Lastsurvivor, ucttriton00



Not Voting
Fizz, Nachomamma8, Kmd4390



With 12 it takes 7 to lynch

Deadline is in (expired on 2012-12-25 15:45:36)

[Majiffy]

Majiffy - he has no qualms with long-bussing, but meta alone isn't enough. My biggest 'wtf' moment yesterday was when Fe posted his reads calling Majiffy super town and "town leader" (Post #456), and then in his very next post Majiffy plummets to scum in Fe's reads (Post #473) . In between Fe's two posts pirate mollie makes a very awkward "lol wouldn't it be funny if Fe just called out his scum buddies".

Here is what I think happened. Fe knew he was going down so Fe tried to help out his scum buddy Majiffy by calling him town leader. When pirate called him out on that, Fe quickly scrambled and plummeted Majiffy to scum with very weak reasoning ... something along the lines of "I read the game again and decided Majiffy is scum". Majiffy then responded by saying Fe claimed scum in an obvious distancing and hard bus.

I said something to Fe in between those two posts that I reckon is the reason why he flopped on me, and I brought it up myself. You can go ISO for it.

The quickwagon on me is adorable btw. Thanks for cementing your names in the history books.

[Majiffy]

477, 478, 484 and 490 are required reading for the wagoneers.

[Lastsurvivor]

What are those posts supposed to prove?

Oh, and can you point out which post it was that caused Fe to flop? I'll quote all the posts you made in between when he called you a town leader and when he called you scum.

assuming he does

You know what they say about assuming...

You know what they say about loose asses...

Twiddle twiddle.

None of those posts look like they'd encourage Fe to flop his read on you.

[Majiffy]

What are those posts supposed to prove?

Oh, and can you point out which post it was that caused Fe to flop? I'll quote all the posts you made in between when he called you a town leader and when he called you scum.

Not really supposed to "prove" anything, they're just required reading.

And sorry, I thought I had said something but I was remembering incorrectly.

[pirate mollie]

Alrighty back to posting serious.

For what it's worth, I consider the director to be a strong town read. He jumped around with his vote a bit at the start of last day phase, but he was the first to call out Fe and didn't relent anywhere for the rest of the phase. That would be a pretty hard bus to swallow. Which is making me look rather askance at Nobody Special.

The problem with Fe is that he was so obviously scum and so bad at defending himself that I can see one or both of his buddies long bussing him almost from the moment I called him out and Fe started to stumble. Here are the people who had interactions with Fe that struck me as off:

Bork was on the fence about Fe for most of yesterday, and never ended up on his wagon. I wanted to mess with him for a bit.

Nacho comes out of the gate and calls Fe "town" and a bad lynch, but ends up voting for Fe. Was Nacho initially trying to save Fe and then surrendered to the fact the guy was found?

Majiffy - he has no qualms with long-bussing, but meta alone isn't enough. My biggest 'wtf' moment yesterday was when Fe posted his reads calling Majiffy super town and "town leader" (Post #456), and then in his very next post Majiffy plummets to scum in Fe's reads (Post #473) .

In between Fe's two posts pirate mollie makes a very awkward "lol wouldn't it be funny if Fe just called out his scum buddies"

.

Here is what I think happened. Fe knew he was going down so Fe tried to help out his scum buddy Majiffy by calling him town leader. When pirate called him out on that, Fe quickly scrambled and plummeted Majiffy to scum with very weak reasoning ... something along the lines of "I read the game again and decided Majiffy is scum". Majiffy then responded by saying Fe claimed scum in an obvious distancing and hard bus.

Pirate is pure null to me.

NS' back and forth makes no sense from a scum perspective when Fe was receiving so much heat. He is a pretty blatantly the fall guy right now.

VOTE: Majiffy

lol, what was awkward about that post? I have seen newb scum do this not just once but twice. as in the only reads that they will give are that their scum buddies are town. did you see the banter between kmd and majiffy after that whole exchange.

penguin person made a great case on nobody special on d1 did you read that?

[the director]

477, 478, 484 and 490 are required reading for the wagoneers.

So you take the time to find and quote your posts (with urls) after Fe dropped you when you went into full bus mode...

Not really supposed to "prove" anything, they're just required reading.

And sorry, I thought I had said something but I was remembering incorrectly.

..but you claim you neglected to reread your posts in between Fe calling you town leader and scum.

I find that really hard to believe.

Lynch it.

[borkjerfkin]

I'd sooner vote KMD than Majiffy right now. I also don't understand what Majiffy did that could be considered "full bus mode" that would cause Fe to have dropped Majiffy from town to scum since if he were bussing, he'd have been doing so since #363 and that was well before Fe called him town leader in #456.

[RachMarie]

Buldemar replaces Fizz

[buldermar]

Hello everyone, will be catching up later.

[pirate mollie]

I'd sooner vote KMD than Majiffy right now. I also don't understand what Majiffy did that could be considered "full bus mode" that would cause Fe to have dropped Majiffy from town to scum since if he were bussing, he'd have been doing so since #363 and that was well before Fe called him town leader in #456.

I am fine with lynching nobody special, kmd and majiffy cos I think fe gave us his scum team and I want to test that theory. if the consensus is to go with a kmd lynch I will move my vote.

[pirate mollie]

eta: hey buldey!

[buldermar]

Hi pm, you seem to be in all my games =)

[Nachomamma8]

the same crew in so many different games
it's like i'm trapped in a mafia game that i can never escape

[buldermar]

A game within a game within a game...

[buldermar]

VOTE: NS

[buldermar]

I dislike the jump from Fe to Nacho, then back to Fe, and I didn't find an explanation in your ISO, NS.

[Lastsurvivor]

I'd sooner vote KMD than Majiffy right now. I also don't understand what Majiffy did that could be considered "full bus mode" that would cause Fe to have dropped Majiffy from town to scum since if he were bussing, he'd have been doing so since #363 and that was well before Fe called him town leader in #456.

You're missing the point.

> Fe lists Maj in town slot, says he's "town leader"
> Mollie says that it'd be funny if Fe listed his partners as town
> Fe suddenly lists Maj as scum

Maj's bussing isn't a cause for the switch. Mollie's comment is. What motivation would Fe have to suddenly switch his read on Maj if Maj is town?

[the director]

You're missing the point.

> Fe lists Maj in town slot, says he's "town leader"
> Mollie says that it'd be funny if Fe listed his partners as town
> Fe suddenly lists Maj as scum

Maj's bussing isn't a cause for the switch. Mollie's comment is. What motivation would Fe have to suddenly switch his read on Maj if Maj is town?

To strap hang onto this, I noticed something about Majiffy's defense. He claims that he thinks he said "something" in between Fe's posts that caused Fe to call him scum. Yet yesterday, he called Fe scum for dropping him from Town to Scum over nothing. It was the whole basis for Majiffy declaring that Fe was "declared scum."

So yesterday according to Majiffy, Fe was scum for dropping Majiffy from Town to scum without reason, but today Majiffy is attempting to say Fe reacted to something he said. Majiffy is blatantly contradicting himself.

The guy is scum, we need a lynch, now. The only useful discussion from this point forward is who the third scum is.

[uctriton00]

So was he trying to suck up to NS knowing he's town? Instead of dropping him he left him there.

[the director]

So was he trying to suck up to NS knowing he's town? Instead of dropping him he left him there.

Your fixation on NS when he also left KMD in the town realm has you on real thin ice. I'd really think hard about your next move.

[uctriton00]

Jesus.