Discworld Mafia - Called

[SlySly]

Here you go BB.

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My initial case on Mitillos. This was very early and my belief that Mit is scum lies more in what happened after this than what is in the majority of this case.

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Mit scumslipped twice in this game.

Slip one reference.

Keep in mind in the following slip, no one had questioned him about it or was putting pressure on him about it. This is a classic braindead slip.

Slip two reference a.
Slip two reference b.
Slip two reference c.
Slip two reference d.

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Now that malp has flipped what he claimed he was, a generic town vampire, start at this post and read in thread (not-iso) through post 1082.

Here you will see Mit deflecting the point I made and you will also see CherryNog coming to his defense as it is obvious his scum buddy is squirming.

Slip two reference e and me fulling calling Mit's bs out.

Slip two reference f. Confirmed townie Xis agreeing with my Mit slipped conclusion.

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Mit as a liar #1.

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Mit as a liar #2a.
Mit as a liar #2a followup.

He never quoted what he was claiming because he was lying and it doesn't exist.

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In this post, Cherry Nog tries to cause confusion and defend Mit by inferring I called something a slip, which I never called a slip. I quickly set CN straight.

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If you don't believe the scum slip, then think about who's been pushing the idea of framers. You've been around for all of that so I won't elaborate again. If it weren't for them mentioning framers, I'd have already voted drmy for his false result from yesterday.

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So,

If you believe drmy's result on DP was tampered with by scum, vote Mit. I'll promptly hammer.
If you don't believe it, hammer drmy.

If you can't get down with either of those, vote someone else.

[Empking]

Vote Count 5

drmyshotgun (2) - Mitillos, Cherry Nog
Mitillos (1) - drmyshotgun

Not Voting: BBmolla, SlySly

With five alive it is three to lynch. Deadline is 7th of December

[BBmolla]

Thank you exactly what I'm looking for.

Will try to post tonight.

[Cherry Nog]

@Cherry: The accusation I've been making since yesterday, you mean?

I don't have anything to say, just waiting for Molla. Although, I am glad the scumteam isn't Molla/Slysly; that was my paranoia pairing.

I'm actually thinking that shotgun might be the last scum - for there to be 4 scum town should have had a lot more power than a conditional neighbouriser and a cop.

[Cherry Nog]

Didn't mean to quote. I've already replied to that last time I posted.

[SlySly]

BB, I put in some serious time to fulfill your request. How about you step up and make a move?

[Mitillos]

Just got a prod from the Mod. Sadly, I have nothing new to add. I gave my case for drmy being scum, several times. BB, it's all up to you now. Effectively, you're the only one not voting, since Sly's vote is essentially on me.

[Cherry Nog]

Mod

: will we get a deadline extension until you've found replacements for shotgun and molla? Neither of them have been on-site since their last posts in this thread.

[SlySly]

I think what ScummyNog means is:

mod: Can you prod BB and drmy?

We don't need an extension, we need BB to make a frickin move.

[Cherry Nog]

I was assuming they'd already been prodded, because Mit just did.

By the way, Slysly: what is your case on us? Being able to change the first word in a username to "Scummy" is not a good case.

[SlySly]

I was assuming they'd already been prodded, because Mit just did.

By the way, Slysly: what is your case on us? Being able to change the first word in a username to "Scummy" is not a good case.

Perhaps post 1400 will be more to your liking. Your Calcifer love and Mit defense is what's keeping me from voting drmy.

[Cherry Nog]

Perhaps post 1444 is to yours?

[SlySly]

In 1444, you are shining shit.

You can shine a piece of shit all you want, it's still shit.

[SlySly]

Post 168 – Declares Calcifer town. Lightly busses Kimor

Nowhere in there do I "declare" Calcifer town. Why would I be "slightly bussing" Kimor if I'd just tried to clear him "of what [you] accused him of"?

Strongly suggests more to your liking?

Calcifer is a hydra; of course their reads are going to have contradictions. If anything, I think this makes them more town.

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Post 354 – Claims no one had mentioned vampires prior to malp's claim, which is a lie. Mitillos had brought up vampires multiple times prior to that claim.

This is a horrible scumtell and you know it.

It's true and you know it.

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Post 737 – Again declares Calcifer as cleared.

You do seem to like saying I "declared" things don't you? It makes it sounds like that's all the post was, rather than it being a small part of the post (not even the main part of it - it looks like you've ctrl+f searched for Calcifer in all of our posts and tried to create a townread in them), saying that Calcifer is

cleared from being a werewolf

, nothing whatsoever about him being mafia.

The word clear sounds like a declaration of innocence to me.

Taking out my strong town reads of Xisi, DP and qwints, and the cop claims (mit, sly and malp) and the one other clear from there (calcifer)

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Post 925 – Tries to act like he's defending Mit against slipping before admitting it was the same kind of slip that caught Kimor.

Yeah, okay, not sure what Cheery was thinking there. I wouldn't call that a defense of Mit; more asking for more than that to make a case.

Your statement matches my analysis.

All that line is telling me is that Mitillos didn't look at the exact wording of his role PM.
I can't see it being something only scum would do, though I guess it is the same type of slip that caught Kimor out when he claimed.

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Post 995 – Violently attacks Xis's case against Calcifer.

I won't deny I thought Xisi's case on Calcifer was shit. I still think it was, but I can understand why now; he shoehorned scum-motives into something he was null on before (same as you're doing to us now).

Post 1075 – swipe at Xis. Chainsaw defending Mit.

Again, I don't have a problem admitting Xis's case was shit. "Chainsaw defending" is explaining flavour now, is it? You were being deliberately dense about the whole thing - that you knew more about the flavour from reading one wiki article than anyone else who had actually read the books.

Post 1136 – hard discredit of Xis case on Calcifer

Again, Xis's case on Calcifer was shit.

You sure felt compelled to discredit Xis's shitty case. Undeniable Calcifer love.

[Cherry Nog]

Post 354 – Claims no one had mentioned vampires prior to malp's claim, which is a lie. Mitillos had brought up vampires multiple times prior to that claim.

This is a horrible scumtell and you know it.

It's true and you know it.

No? I looked through the thread, there was only one mention of vampires prior to malp's claim, which may have been by mitillos, but had nothing to do with the alignment of vampires. (the only other mention was you quoting the post)

Post 737 – Again declares Calcifer as cleared.

You do seem to like saying I "declared" things don't you? It makes it sounds like that's all the post was, rather than it being a small part of the post (not even the main part of it - it looks like you've ctrl+f searched for Calcifer in all of our posts and tried to create a townread in them), saying that Calcifer is

cleared from being a werewolf

, nothing whatsoever about him being mafia.

The word clear sounds like a declaration of innocence to me.

Taking out my strong town reads of Xisi, DP and qwints, and the cop claims (mit, sly and malp) and the one other clear from there (calcifer)

Cleared of being a werewolf, as implied that I thought at that stage you were actual cops with the rest of that sentence.

Post 925 – Tries to act like he's defending Mit against slipping before admitting it was the same kind of slip that caught Kimor.

Yeah, okay, not sure what Cheery was thinking there. I wouldn't call that a defense of Mit; more asking for more than that to make a case.

Your statement matches my analysis.

All that line is telling me is that Mitillos didn't look at the exact wording of his role PM.
I can't see it being something only scum would do, though I guess it is the same type of slip that caught Kimor out when he claimed.

I gave you credit for saying it's a slip, but it does only work if Mit is actually scum, which I doubt. It is also different in that Kimor claimed at L-1, whereas Mit was just doing a flavour recap of his role. Different levels of pressure can result in different things.

You sure felt compelled to discredit Xis's shitty case. Undeniable Calcifer love.

Well would you look at your own discrediting of Xis's case in Post 852, although we have publicly discredited it more, it stills stands that it was a shit case. I'm sorry if you dislike me disliking shit cases. If the same level of shitiness was made against anyone else, I'd also be attacking them for shitty cases. (which I'm fairly sure I've done already quite a few times besides that one in this game)

[SlySly]

I would vote drmy now just to put this game out of its misery but that would be playing against my wincon.

This game should go down as abandoned, because going through replacements at this point is a sham.

[SlySly]

Comparing my post 852 to your attacks on Xis's case is laughable.

[Mitillos]

@Mod: V/LA over the weekend

[Empking]

Deadline has been postoned, and thoughts are being thought.

[Cherry Nog]

Anything happening yet?

[Cherry Nog]

I notice you're not advertising for replacements; is the game abandoned? Who actually was the scum?

[Empking]

I think it makes more sense to call the game for the town here rather than looking for replacements. A SlySly says going through replacements at this point is a sham, and I doubt the one scum member that I'd have to foist into to replace would be replacing into a losing cause. Though it may have been interesting to see Drmyshotgun give it the good college try to win, I don't think it is utility improving to get replacements in.

DSrmyshotgun was modkilled. He was a Conspirator.
Town has won

[Empking]

Spoiler: Role PMs

 
Three players:
You are a Member of the Conspiracy. Your fellow Conspirators are XXX and YYY and you may speak to them at any time [here]. As a factional ability you have the ability to attempt to kill a player each night.

In order to spread misinformation any player that targets a player on the same night as you successfully kill them will get the following PM:

You wake up in a pool of something red; a sticky something red. You start to shake which is when you notice that your clothes are ripped, though your underwear still manages to preserve your modesty, you step over [victim's name] as you make you way lethargically home.

Your factional safe claims are: Lady Sybil, Esk and Captain Carrot. At any time you may give a name and role ability to the mod in order to receive a fake role PM.
You win when the Conspiracy are the only surviving faction or nothing can prevent the same.
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1 Player:

You are Sam Vimes. Each night you may attempt to target a player in an attempt to ascertain whether or not your target is a member of a Mafia. Same Vimes a Cop! Truly an example of out of the box thinking!

You win if the Town faction is the only surviving faction.

1 Players:

You are a Vampire! Not zany specific vampire but just a generic vampire. A generic vampire with a generic grudge against generic Werewolves so when you heard Ankh-Morpork was in generic trouble you knew what the problem was at once.

Each night you may target a player this will be attempt to ascertain if your target is a Werewolf or not. This investigation is guaranteed to be sane.
You win if the Town faction is the only surviving faction.

1 Player:

You are Mustrum Ridcully. On one day as you lounged in your marvellous bed a not was pushed through your door. Since any note that somebody managed to push through your door must be of some importance you opened it “The WeREwoLves aRE GOIng to takE OVEr Ankh-morPORK”.

That wouldn’t be very good so each night you may target a player at night in order to learn whether or not they are a Werewolf.
You win if the Town faction is the only surviving faction.

1 Player:

You are Nanny Ogg. As a mother of many you have a good idea about what the human body looks like even to such a degree that you can tell a Werewolf from a Human (sometimes even without the advantage of having them be in wolf form!). This means you can target a player each night in order to learn whether or not they are a Werewolf.

You win if the Town faction is the only surviving faction.

1 Player:

You are Om! You are a Deity of some power and can speak to your worshipper each night [here]. You cannot look in his heart though and do not know his alignment. You do know that he has a power and what more that your survival and godly power is needed for him to target and for his actions to have any lasting effects.

You win if the Town faction is the only surviving faction.

You are a Deacon Vorbis, you may speak to your Deity each night [here]. Although he has demonstrated his Godly powers to you well enough you still can’t be sure if his motives are pure. Each night you may target a player and the next day they will get the following PM:

"A strange man in strange robes looks at you strangely before, in a strange walk, coming towards you in a strange way. This strange stranger speaks to you about the one true God who is the only real one (the rest being a bunch of uppity fakes), he who can protect against the darkness, and asks you to join him in his worship. An odd choice, do you accept?"

If your target accepts then they will become immune to night kills for as long as your Deity continues to live.

You win if the Town faction is the only remaining faction.

You are a Citizen of Ankh-Morpork. You lack any abilities but your vote and a resistance to foul smells but good luck!

You win if the town is the only surviving faction.

[Dragon Phoenix]

Thanks mod.

[qwints]

I cannot believe that there was even a slight possibility that DSrmyshotgun wouldn't be lynched.