Gay Mafia II: RIDE THE LIGHTNING (Game Over)

[Quilford]

Point being, new players don't stop being awkward and unaccustomed after 5 games, especially not with this playerlist.

so we should give him a free pass for scummy behavior just because he's only been around a few months?

context!

hell, if anything, quil, zoid's inexperience points more TOWARD him being scum--- newbie scum accusing Ythan of being scum just because he's scared and doesn't know what the fuck else to do

haha this is terrible

[kuribo]

no, what's terrible is you unvoting without placing a vote


are you that worried for pretentioushydra?

[Kawaii]

katsuki, if anything it makes it harder that Spyspy's not here since we've only been in like one game together where we were the same alignment (Revolution Mafia)

I dunno.

You and Spyspy are those players that I can generally read within a post or two if you guys are in the same game.
TM:12 and Catch22 are wonderful examples (though the outcome of the latter was bad because I forgot my reads over time).

[Kawaii]

ok yeah that iso is pretty bad and I'm sure Kise won't mind.

UNVOTE, VOTE: ZOIDBERG

Why, specifically?

Certain posts set off gut scumdar (and a few personal scumtells).

Don't you miss playing with me, you moldy Vollkan?

[Quilford]

no, what's terrible is you unvoting without placing a vote


are you that worried for pretentioushydra?

i don't even know what that means

i was in the process of typing out a reads list when i noticed there was a sudden outbreak of wrongness that could, if left untreated, have lead us to a town mislynch. once i have finished my reads list i will place a vote

[kuribo]

to be fair, TDK, i powerfucked all of my scum buddies in C-22 and then lynched everyone that suspected me while throwing wave after wave of bullshit at the town and riding deus ex machima to endgame

[kuribo]

no, what's terrible is you unvoting without placing a vote


are you that worried for pretentioushydra?

i don't even know what that means

i was in the process of typing out a reads list when i noticed there was a sudden outbreak of wrongness that could, if left untreated, have lead us to a town mislynch. once i have finished my reads list i will place a vote

don't play dumb with me, Quil, we both know you're not dumb.

you unvoted pretentious while they were in no immediate danger, which would have been fine if it weren't for the fact that it's not like you placed your vote somewhere else

i'm asking you if you voted pretentious just to be seen on the wagon, and then unvoted not because you wanted to place a vote elsewhere but because you no longer wanted to be on the wagon?

[Kawaii]

to be fair, TDK, i powerfucked all of my scum buddies in C-22 and then lynched everyone that suspected me while throwing wave after wave of bullshit at the town and riding deus ex machima to endgame

Bleh.

I had you read from the moment I/you started posting... Hate myself for forgetting the scumread I had on you...
Then again I blame Scummer of Love for distracting me.

[Quilford]

no, what's terrible is you unvoting without placing a vote


are you that worried for pretentioushydra?

i don't even know what that means

i was in the process of typing out a reads list when i noticed there was a sudden outbreak of wrongness that could, if left untreated, have lead us to a town mislynch. once i have finished my reads list i will place a vote

don't play dumb with me, Quil, we both know you're not dumb.

you unvoted pretentious while they were in no immediate danger, which would have been fine if it weren't for the fact that it's not like you placed your vote somewhere else

i'm asking you if you voted pretentious just to be seen on the wagon, and then unvoted not because you wanted to place a vote elsewhere but because you no longer wanted to be on the wagon?

does anyone do that as scum anyway? i think not.

i've already answered that question. i unvoted because i did want to place a vote elsewhere, but was not sure yet where to put my vote. if anything, i unvoted without a revote just to show that i no longer supported the wagon.

in any case suggesting that i voted pretentious 'just to be seen on the wagon' is invalid, because i was the first vote on pretentious

[Quilford]

loving the conspiracy theory tone you got going kuribo

[kuribo]

people do that as scum, actually


and fair enough about being the first person on the wagon, but then again if your vote was truly RVS then why did you get cold feet once it picked up steam? again, they weren't in immediate danger and already the wagon had started fizzling

[vollkan]

no, what's terrible is you unvoting without placing a vote


are you that worried for pretentioushydra?

i don't even know what that means

i was in the process of typing out a reads list when i noticed there was a sudden outbreak of wrongness that could, if left untreated, have lead us to a town mislynch. once i have finished my reads list i will place a vote

don't play dumb with me, Quil, we both know you're not dumb.

you unvoted pretentious while they were in no immediate danger, which would have been fine if it weren't for the fact that it's not like you placed your vote somewhere else

i'm asking you if you voted pretentious just to be seen on the wagon, and then unvoted not because you wanted to place a vote elsewhere but because you no longer wanted to be on the wagon?

does anyone do that as scum anyway? i think not.

i've already answered that question. i unvoted because i did want to place a vote elsewhere, but was not sure yet where to put my vote. if anything, i unvoted without a revote just to show that i no longer supported the wagon.

in any case suggesting that i voted pretentious 'just to be seen on the wagon' is invalid, because i was the first vote on pretentious

So, what was your reason for "supporting" the wagon to begin with, and why did that change?

[Quilford]

people do that as scum, actually


and fair enough about being the first person on the wagon, but then again if your vote was truly RVS then why did you get cold feet once it picked up steam? again, they weren't in immediate danger and already the wagon had started fizzling

good point. town does it in equal numbers though

'once it picked up steam' 'already the wagon had started fizzling' please reconcile, i don't see how a wagon can have just picked up steam and simultaneously be fizzling

[kuribo]

loving the conspiracy theory tone you got going kuribo

we both know i can read you, so don't act like i have no reason to be asking you questions.


EBWOP: seriously? i didn't say it had "just picked up steam," i said it had picked up steam in the time since you had placed your vote, and indeed, attention had already started to shift elsewhere by the time you removed your vote

you placed first vote, the wagon "picked up steam" over the next ten pages or so, but by the time you unvoted on page 13, people were already starting to look elsewhere

[Quilford]

read differently to me, ah well

i don't really get it? like, you're saying people were already starting to look elsewhere. i am one of those people. i have explained why i unvoted.

[Quilford]

like, you're saying i got 'cold feet'

where did you get that impression? why are you putting words into my mouth? how can someone get cold feet after the wagon has reached its peak?

[vollkan]

no, what's terrible is you unvoting without placing a vote


are you that worried for pretentioushydra?

i don't even know what that means

i was in the process of typing out a reads list when i noticed there was a sudden outbreak of wrongness that could, if left untreated, have lead us to a town mislynch. once i have finished my reads list i will place a vote

don't play dumb with me, Quil, we both know you're not dumb.

you unvoted pretentious while they were in no immediate danger, which would have been fine if it weren't for the fact that it's not like you placed your vote somewhere else

*tumbleweed*
i'm asking you if you voted pretentious just to be seen on the wagon, and then unvoted not because you wanted to place a vote elsewhere but because you no longer wanted to be on the wagon?

does anyone do that as scum anyway? i think not.

i've already answered that question. i unvoted because i did want to place a vote elsewhere, but was not sure yet where to put my vote. if anything, i unvoted without a revote just to show that i no longer supported the wagon.

in any case suggesting that i voted pretentious 'just to be seen on the wagon' is invalid, because i was the first vote on pretentious

So, what was your reason for "supporting" the wagon to begin with, and why did that change?

[vollkan]

ok yeah that iso is pretty bad and I'm sure Kise won't mind.

UNVOTE, VOTE: ZOIDBERG

Why, specifically?

Certain posts set off gut scumdar (and a few personal scumtells).

Don't you miss playing with me, you moldy Vollkan?

Gut AND personal scumtells. Well, I'm convinced.

[Quilford]

vollkan: i didn't want a three player hydra in the game. that changed because they started being town and i had to consider whether i wanted no three player hydra more than i wanted to not lynch town

and wanting to not lynch town won

[kuribo]

read differently to me, ah well

i don't really get it? like, you're saying people were already starting to look elsewhere. i am one of those people. i have explained why i unvoted.

my point remains that by the time you unvoted, your vote was harming no one. pretentious was not in danger. and typically, when a person removes their RVS vote, it's because they've decided to place a more meaningful vote. but you didn't do that--- you didn't unvote to free up your vote to place elsewhere. you just unvoted to get off the wagon.

like, you're saying i got 'cold feet'

where did you get that impression? why are you putting words into my mouth? how can someone get cold feet after the wagon has reached its peak?

i'm not putting words in your mouth, i'm interpreting your actions. kind of a prerequisite for scumhunting. it's disingenuous to paint it as anything but.

and it's perfectly reasonable to think you got "cold feet" on a fizzling wagon, perhaps you saw it as the perfect time to hop off unnoticed. maybe you're scum and he's town and you decided you wanted no part of the mislynch. maybe you're scum together and you saw your RVS vote mature into something bigger, so now you want to relieve the pressure. i haven't figured all that out yet, but i'll be damned if i'm not going to question you for it.

[Quilford]

hey vollkan, why did you choose to respond to what you chose to respond to in your first post this game?

[Quilford]

read differently to me, ah well

i don't really get it? like, you're saying people were already starting to look elsewhere. i am one of those people. i have explained why i unvoted.

my point remains that by the time you unvoted, your vote was harming no one. pretentious was not in danger. and typically, when a person removes their RVS vote, it's because they've decided to place a more meaningful vote. but you didn't do that--- you didn't unvote to free up your vote to place elsewhere. you just unvoted to get off the wagon.

like, you're saying i got 'cold feet'

where did you get that impression? why are you putting words into my mouth? how can someone get cold feet after the wagon has reached its peak?

i'm not putting words in your mouth, i'm interpreting your actions. kind of a prerequisite for scumhunting. it's disingenuous to paint it as anything but.

and it's perfectly reasonable to think you got "cold feet" on a fizzling wagon, perhaps you saw it as the perfect time to hop off unnoticed. maybe you're scum and he's town and you decided you wanted no part of the mislynch. maybe you're scum together and you saw your RVS vote mature into something bigger, so now you want to relieve the pressure. i haven't figured all that out yet, but i'll be damned if i'm not going to question you for it.

you are making literally zero sense

[Quilford]

your vote was harming no one. pretentious was not in danger.

implies there was no pressure on pretentious

maybe you're scum together and you saw your RVS vote mature into something bigger, so now you want to relieve the pressure.

implies there was pressure on pretentious

[Kawaii]

ok yeah that iso is pretty bad and I'm sure Kise won't mind.

UNVOTE, VOTE: ZOIDBERG

Why, specifically?

Certain posts set off gut scumdar (and a few personal scumtells).

Don't you miss playing with me, you moldy Vollkan?

Gut AND personal scumtells. Well, I'm convinced.

Glad that you are~!

[vollkan]

vollkan: i didn't want a three player hydra in the game. that changed because they started being town and i had to consider whether i wanted no three player hydra more than i wanted to not lynch town

and wanting to not lynch town won

Quilford+3

The wagon was early game fluff/content-generating-RVS and in no way likely to lead to a lynch. So, you didn't need to balance those factors at all - the risk of lynching town simply didn't arise.

hey vollkan, why did you choose to respond to what you chose to respond to in your first post this game?

I responded to those posts that I thought actually had game relevance.