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Post Post #775 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:36 pm

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Om of the Nom wrote:
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Om of the Nom wrote:I'll only consider lynching Fate once he actually gets a chance to react to this.


Please trust people who actually know how to play the game and vote Fate.

When did I say I didn't trust myself?


Harr harr very funny.
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Post Post #776 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:49 pm

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hmmm

wait a sec

I think I have something on Pretentious legit let me talk to nuwen
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Post Post #777 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:51 pm

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Wyrd wrote:hmmm

wait a sec

I think I have something on Pretentious legit let me talk to nuwen

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Post Post #778 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:51 pm

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kuribo wrote:
Pretentiousdra wrote:we're not pretending.


I'd bet you my left nut Fate doesn't get lynched today.


this is a good bet^

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Post Post #779 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:51 pm

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Pretentiousdra wrote:
Wyrd wrote:hmmm

wait a sec

I think I have something on Pretentious legit let me talk to nuwen

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Post Post #780 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:52 pm

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Pretentiousdra wrote:HEY KURIBO TOWNFATE DOESNT AVOID THREAD FOR 25 PAGES WHILE ACTIVELY POSTING IN HIS OTHER GAME KTHX

NOW GET YOUR VOTE ON SON


Spoiler:
It has something to do with this
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Post Post #781 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:52 pm

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I'd like to know what it is before you talk to Nuwen thanks.
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Post Post #782 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:55 pm

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k well here's the thing, I DIDNT RECIEVE A PM THAT THE GAME HAD STARTED ON FATE, THE ACCOUNT FATE

So I was posting on Fate n shit yesterday, with no idea this game had started, but CHESSKIDHYDRA knew it had started? Maybe their scum QT closed?

Just a theory, but its better than whatever the fuck 30 pages I'm not reading has
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Post Post #783 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:57 pm

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Pretentiousdra wrote:
Om of the Nom wrote:
Pretentiousdra wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/search.php?a ... 6&sr=posts


Thread opened monday, role pms were sent to mains of all people in hydras.

Give ME a break.

Game start PMs were only sent to hydras.

...You get your
role PM
on your main you know damn well thread is going to start soon. Like, the next day. You see the thread in theme park, going up to 25 pages, you have your role pm. YOU PLAY THE GAME.

You don't avoid the thread like a scumfuck


Adorable.

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Post Post #784 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:57 pm

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Wyrd wrote:So I was posting on Fate n shit yesterday, with no idea this game had started, but CHESSKIDHYDRA knew it had started? Maybe their scum QT closed?


this is retarded and you KNOW it's retarded.
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Post Post #785 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:58 pm

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he's flailing gamma
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Post Post #786 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:58 pm

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SlumberPartyBois wrote:
Om of the Nom wrote:
Pretentiousdra wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/search.php?a ... 6&sr=posts


Thread opened monday, role pms were sent to mains of all people in hydras.

Give ME a break.

Game start PMs were only sent to hydras.

1st how would u even know and 2nd i am another hydra confirming role pms were sent to all heads.
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Post Post #787 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:59 pm

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Wyrd wrote:k well here's the thing, I DIDNT RECIEVE A PM THAT THE GAME HAD STARTED ON FATE, THE ACCOUNT FATE

So I was posting on Fate n shit yesterday, with no idea this game had started, but CHESSKIDHYDRA knew it had started? Maybe their scum QT closed?

Just a theory, but its better than whatever the fuck 30 pages I'm not reading has

Hey look it's like I'm psychic or something.
“Leftover lady, let alone the strongest to be subdued.
If I only had the magic key that would unlock the realms to the plateau of the highest me.
Even though I’ve been badly bruised, living in a house to become a popular muse.”

hey beautiful ! how was your day ?
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Post Post #788 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:00 pm

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the grownups are talking, Om
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Post Post #789 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:01 pm

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Pretentiousdra wrote:the grownups are talking, Om

And so am I, do you have a problem with that?
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If I only had the magic key that would unlock the realms to the plateau of the highest me.
Even though I’ve been badly bruised, living in a house to become a popular muse.”

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Post Post #790 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:01 pm

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no neither of you start stupid namecalling horseshit
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Post Post #791 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:03 pm

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GAMMA how do you feel about wyrd if you haven't already said
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Post Post #792 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:08 pm

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faradunks I was actually already writing this up when you posted that

and although i would probably be on this wagon anyway because the wagon was hilarious until nuwen actually started posting and being good at mafiaz fate's posts are legitimately awful. calling out dgb for not voting ns when dgb's barely playing the game either and then a stupid self-serving theory that completely ignores every possiblity of actually paying attention to when games start or seeing it while playing other games or that they just got a role pm ETC ETC so yeah I actually want to make this dead.
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Post Post #793 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:13 pm

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Zoidberg wrote:
vollkan wrote:Quilford+3


vollkan wrote:BT+3


Could someone please clarify what this means for me?


I rank people on a scale of 0 (absolute town) to 100 (absolute scum). Everybody starts at 50 (and almost nobody goes below 50, because of me being super-skeptical about the existence of towntells). Scumtells push the score up. A score of +3 is a minor scumtell, +5 is a normal scumtell, +10 is serious, etc.

Main reason I use the system is just that it better helps me track how I feel about people over time (as in, there's no reason why something which is scummy on p 10 becomes less scummy over time - a scumtell is a scumtell no matter when it happens; whereas I find that there is a natural tendency to treat the present/more recent events as more weighty). Also, the way I play is more directed at discrete tells rather than "general reads" (and I detest gut-based play) - so using the points directly ties my suspicions to specific tells (and, in turn, gives me an easy way of responding whenever people ask why I suspect a particular person).

Zoidberg wrote:
vollkan wrote:What's your reason for thinking that?

-The case on Drench and BT I felt was legit


I followed the reasoning of the BT one, but in a nutshell, what do you understand the Drench case to be?

Ythan wrote:
vollkan wrote:My questioning of Quilford consisted of 310 words, in 10 posts, over 47 minutes. I hardly think that's excessive.

But they were all pretty dumb. It's a silly case imo.


How? Quilford claimed he'd done something for X reason. X reason did not appear to make sense. So I questioned him about it.

Yes, it didn't end up being a smoking gun, but that doesn't mean it was "silly" - nor does it mean I was "trying too hard" (hint: "The Interrogator" is my title for a reason)

[quote="ThunderHog"
- I initially placed my vote due to Drench's post 385. It makes a great point which I agreed with completely.

- Move to post 421. BT tries to subtly hop on the Quill wagon with crap logic. P-hydra's post 424 addressed this issue - which cemented my vote, IMO.

- BT's post 475. He attempts to address me stating that he was not trying to build a case against Quill, when, in-fact, he was. Ythan's post 483 addressed this as well.
[/quote]

Thunder+5

UNVOTE: Zoidberg
VOTE: Thunder

1) Post 385 doesn't make any sense at all as a reason to suspect BT. BT had declared his opinion on trollie and SPB, but why does that make it scummy to ask other people for their reasons?
2) a) What part of 421 "subtly"? He had four lines of reasoning and a vote. What, exactly, is "subtle" about that? I'll tell you what is subtle though - using an emotive word like "subtly" to try and make a completely non-suspicious thing sound insidious.
b) Craplogic? Why?
c) 424 didn't actually address the issue at all. 424 was about the (valid) retreat option/fallback point.
3) Did you even read 475? here, let me quote:
BT wrote:
ThunderHog wrote:Post 424 is a big one, IMO. It builds an entire case against BT with only a single sentence

Problem with that Thunderhog is that 424 isn't a case - it only interprets my moves in a particular way so of course it'd "make sense" but only that.

He isn't denying that HE was trying to build a case on Quilford - because he isn't even referring to his attack on quilford. He's saying that 424 (ie. p-dra's post against him) isn't a case but simply an interpretation of his actions.
4*) Striking thing about each your three reasons above is that in every one, you refer to other people's posts to support your own arguments. Insecure, much?

1D wrote:
vollkan do you have any reads on people you haven't given points to? if so who (and what read?)


No, anything that I consider as alignment-relevant is captured in my points.
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Post Post #794 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:14 pm

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EBWOP: massive tag fail there

vollkan wrote:Quilford+3


vollkan wrote:BT+3


Could someone please clarify what this means for me?[/quote]

I rank people on a scale of 0 (absolute town) to 100 (absolute scum). Everybody starts at 50 (and almost nobody goes below 50, because of me being super-skeptical about the existence of towntells). Scumtells push the score up. A score of +3 is a minor scumtell, +5 is a normal scumtell, +10 is serious, etc.

Main reason I use the system is just that it better helps me track how I feel about people over time (as in, there's no reason why something which is scummy on p 10 becomes less scummy over time - a scumtell is a scumtell no matter when it happens; whereas I find that there is a natural tendency to treat the present/more recent events as more weighty). Also, the way I play is more directed at discrete tells rather than "general reads" (and I detest gut-based play) - so using the points directly ties my suspicions to specific tells (and, in turn, gives me an easy way of responding whenever people ask why I suspect a particular person).

Zoidberg wrote:
vollkan wrote:What's your reason for thinking that?

-The case on Drench and BT I felt was legit


I followed the reasoning of the BT one, but in a nutshell, what do you understand the Drench case to be?

Ythan wrote:
vollkan wrote:My questioning of Quilford consisted of 310 words, in 10 posts, over 47 minutes. I hardly think that's excessive.

But they were all pretty dumb. It's a silly case imo.


How? Quilford claimed he'd done something for X reason. X reason did not appear to make sense. So I questioned him about it.

Yes, it didn't end up being a smoking gun, but that doesn't mean it was "silly" - nor does it mean I was "trying too hard" (hint: "The Interrogator" is my title for a reason)

ThunderHog wrote:
- I initially placed my vote due to Drench's post 385. It makes a great point which I agreed with completely.

- Move to post 421. BT tries to subtly hop on the Quill wagon with crap logic. P-hydra's post 424 addressed this issue - which cemented my vote, IMO.

- BT's post 475. He attempts to address me stating that he was not trying to build a case against Quill, when, in-fact, he was. Ythan's post 483 addressed this as well.


Thunder+5

UNVOTE: Zoidberg
VOTE: Thunder

1) Post 385 doesn't make any sense at all as a reason to suspect BT. BT had declared his opinion on trollie and SPB, but why does that make it scummy to ask other people for their reasons?
2) a) What part of 421 "subtly"? He had four lines of reasoning and a vote. What, exactly, is "subtle" about that? I'll tell you what is subtle though - using an emotive word like "subtly" to try and make a completely non-suspicious thing sound insidious.
b) Craplogic? Why?
c) 424 didn't actually address the issue at all. 424 was about the (valid) retreat option/fallback point.
3) Did you even read 475? here, let me quote:
BT wrote:
ThunderHog wrote:Post 424 is a big one, IMO. It builds an entire case against BT with only a single sentence

Problem with that Thunderhog is that 424 isn't a case - it only interprets my moves in a particular way so of course it'd "make sense" but only that.

He isn't denying that HE was trying to build a case on Quilford - because he isn't even referring to his attack on quilford. He's saying that 424 (ie. p-dra's post against him) isn't a case but simply an interpretation of his actions.
4*) Striking thing about each your three reasons above is that in every one, you refer to other people's posts to support your own arguments. Insecure, much?

1D wrote:
vollkan do you have any reads on people you haven't given points to? if so who (and what read?)


No, anything that I consider as alignment-relevant is captured in my points.
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Post Post #795 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:19 pm

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vollkan wrote:How? Quilford claimed he'd done something for X reason. X reason did not appear to make sense. So I questioned him about it.

Yes, it didn't end up being a smoking gun, but that doesn't mean it was "silly" - nor does it mean I was "trying too hard" (hint: "The Interrogator" is my title for a reason)

It was dragged out far too long for how little sense it made as a push.
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Post Post #796 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:21 pm

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Om you're really proving that you don't deserve to be at the dinner table.

We'll set a kiddie table up for you don't worry.
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Post Post #797 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:29 pm

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Gammagooey wrote:
Wyrd wrote:So I was posting on Fate n shit yesterday, with no idea this game had started, but CHESSKIDHYDRA knew it had started? Maybe their scum QT closed?


this is retarded and you KNOW it's retarded.


No, his reasoning that SCUMFATE would actively AVOID a thread like a bitch is shit reasoning

Now, yeah, him being scum cause he knew the game started and I didn't is stretching it, but him pushing me for SHITREASONS is SCUM

and Ellie is letting chess and katsuki do all the heavy lifting pushing bc itd be awkward for him to try to read me wrong

it all adds up


that hydra must die DGB pregame gut ftw
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Post Post #798 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:32 pm

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Kawaii wrote:Om you're really proving that you don't deserve to be at the dinner table.

We'll set a kiddie table up for you don't worry.

I'm too big for the kiddie table, my knees would lift the table off the ground just by sitting normally.
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Post Post #799 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:33 pm

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Ythan wrote:
vollkan wrote:How? Quilford claimed he'd done something for X reason. X reason did not appear to make sense. So I questioned him about it.

Yes, it didn't end up being a smoking gun, but that doesn't mean it was "silly" - nor does it mean I was "trying too hard" (hint: "The Interrogator" is my title for a reason)

It was dragged out far too long for how little sense it made as a push.


Time-wise, it lasted 45 minutes.

If you want to talk about things that don't make sense lasting too long, maybe try looking at the first 15 pages of this game.

More constructively:
- Quilford's 343 contained two relevant points:
1) Impliedly, that the p-dra wagon had a risk of going to lynch; and
2) Expressly, that Quilford had decided p-dra was town.

- 1) above was plainly false and 2) was unexplained
- In 350, quilford then added that the reason for the unvote was to "free" his vote. This doesn't make sense because, like I said, you're just as free to move your vote to a player when you are voting somebody else as you are when you are not voting anybody
- 355: I respond to Quilford's argument that the wagon was getting high (It wasn't)
- 361 is just me clarifying the same point about "freeing" (which Quilford argued was being too technical)
- 369: he explained at least the fact that he was compiling the list, so I ended pursuit there.
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