Gay Mafia II: RIDE THE LIGHTNING (Game Over)

[One Direction]

oh i thought it was obvious from the last part. the latter (me scum, him town).

Also, if you're town, why did you bring up your scum winrate vs town fate?

Why would my alignment in this game make me less likely to boast about my scum winrate?

[Zoidberg]

Why would my alignment in this game make me less likely to boast about my scum winrate?

1. Zoidberg says the only quasi-plausible reason (in zoidberg's opinion) for attempting to fabricate a scumslip would be if OD was afraid of fate or something
   
2. OD of course is asking us to believe he is town
   
3. OD brings up his scum winrate to prove he is not afraid of fate

I'm asking because your scum winrate doesn't really answer the question, so... please answer it

[One Direction]

'You're afraid of fate' 'Not really I beat him a bunch of times'

I'm saying I wouldn't be afraid of fate as scum. Why would I be 'afraid' of a player as town...like ever? That doesn't make any sense.

[One Direction]

I mean even ignoring that who the fuck goes 'I'm scum and so afraid of someone I'll fake a slip and hope I get away with it'. That's not an actual human's thought process ever I'm pretty sure.

[One Direction]

Zoidberg says the only quasi-plausible reason (in zoidberg's opinion) for attempting to fabricate a scumslip would be if OD was afraid of fate or something

How does my scum win rate not literally show this is why scum!me wouldn't feel the need to fabricate a slip as scum? If you're hypothetis is that a townie could be afraid of a player then that's not even something I understand. Afraid of...what?

My reason makes much more sense and is grounded in reality. Also I didn't 'attempt' to fabricate anything. I didn't fabricate it, there was no attempt.

[Zoidberg]

I just think it's odd to say "I always win against fate when I'm scum" in a game where you're ostensibly town.

Why do we care if you always win against fate as scum, unless you're scum?

I will have to revisit this.

[One Direction]

You're not supposed to care about it, just like you're not supposed to care that I made an amusing mafia song based on one direction lyrics. I do stuff like that all the time anyway, it's mostly for my own self amusement.

[vollkan]

You're not supposed to care about it, just like you're not supposed to care that I made an amusing mafia song based on one direction lyrics. I do stuff like that all the time anyway, it's mostly for my own self amusement.

THe difference between the two is that one is an obvious irrelevant/joke thing, whereas the other is something that you should have no reason for mentioning in a town game

[Pretentiousdra]

lets play some fuckin mafia eh

[vollkan]

lets play some fuckin mafia eh

I could ask this question probably about 90% of what you've said this game - but, restraining myself, what was the point of making that post? If it had no point, why make an already nigh unreadable game even more bloated with meaningless crap?

[Pretentiousdra]

Hah. I'm drunk and bored.

[Zoidberg]

lets play some fuckin mafia eh

Hah. I'm drunk and bored.

Let's put it to good use then: What do you think about me vs OD?

[Pretentiousdra]

You're both town and you're a baby tbfh

[Pretentiousdra]

Like get out of your tunnel

[vollkan]

Zoidberg has the right idea.

@p-dra: What are your thoughts on ThunderHog?

[Zoidberg]

Like get out of your tunnel

Well, only about 20% of my posts are related to/directed at OD so I don't agree that I'm tunneling.

You're both town and you're a baby tbfh

Can you explain your town read on OD for me, then? I read through your ISO and don't remember you ever explaining it. (Wait till you are sober if you want)

[vollkan]

@Zoidberg: Zoidberg, why not ThunderHog?

related

[BT]

Took a trip down ISO lane. Also read the QT.

Bois is cemented town. Like wow very town. Post in the thread more.

If there's scum in the QT I'm beginning to think it's Kawaii now. For starters they (and pretentious too tbh but i'm still pending there recently) post around the discussions (that definitely do exist, just look at bois/od) instead of joining in. Most of the comments are shallow "yeah they're town/scum". Then there are other things that hint at lacking motivation / passiveness like

Zor could be lazy scum but we can look at that when this [Fatelynch] is all said and done.

eh started skimming kuribo iso then got bored halfway through

He's probably town this game? At least my eyes and gut have yet to pick up anything scummy so."

I'll read through sometime but I recall skimming trollie resisting wagon then getting on it? Weird but we'll see what Fate flips first I guess.

and so on and so forth. And then there are the things that just

feel

wrong like

DGB's not usually THIS obvious as scum though.

Poor gal.

Looks like we have our block target for tomorrow barring viging.

and

Because everyone's scared of lynching Fate D1.

Which makes no sense because he's the most obvious scum so far. All the other wagons have been on derps thus far if I'm not mistaken?

"The most obvious scum so far" seems disconnected from the thread and the fact people outside the qt have less content to work with (or hell, the fact people outside the qt aren't instalynching fate OR are making some good points on others)
It's the kind of thing I imagine scum saying with one eyelid closed and a yawn. "yeah this is the obvscum and the rest are derps, it's not like i care"

This is where the whole faux scumslip plan comes together; it is obviously anti-town as a fact to suggest such a thing but it would be even more stupid and awkward for scum to do it. Faraday brought it up, chesskid brought it up again. At that point Katsuki just went with it. Scum wouldn't be the ones to steer it but

they would definitely go with the flow and support it

.

Speaking of Faraday/OD I doubt he's scum for this reason and the fact that he literally started the game at high gear (this I get from the QT, not the thread). It's why his recent effort is probably towneffort and not scumeffort-help-im-getting-wagoned too. There's also how he doesn't seem like MafiastuckPandoricaScum (which happened a month ago??) but that's one game and a recent one so whatever. I still want DGB/whomever to show me I'm wrong here because I really don't think I am. UNTIL YOU DO: drop the OD wagon and vote the real scum hydra instead.

Another thing: Wyrd isn't scum either.

Hold on I think chesskid hydra actually is scum

Did anyone ELSE recieve a PM on their MAIN accounts that the game started?

I didn't on Fate, and I didn't know the game had started yet chessncrew are pulling this "fate was posting in other threads avoiding this one" bullshit like I'm some newbscum

Remember this? This doesn't look faked. It looks genuine. I couldn't tell if the one in the thread was genuine but this is from the qt and it looks legit. It's obv a weaker stance than the one on OD up there but as long as I think I hit something genuine it is here to stay.

Aaaand then there's DGB and I think there might be scum there. This is offhand and I haven't read her indepth (yet) but some of her lynchpushing reads awkward.

QUESTIONS

To Matt: "I have INCREDIBLY strong townreads on Chesskid, Faraday, and Katsuki right now". Assuming INCREDIBLY strong means you have a really good reason for these then can you please share?
To DAN: I want your updated read on me. YOUR read.
To ZOID: "I specifically iso'd all the hydras" and you're mostly talking about OD. What are your other opinions?

Now there's Thunderhog too and I'm starting to secondguess myself. In hindsight his very first post IS town but then he goes off and makes a huge mess out of everything and his reads. It's a question of town messing up OR scum messing up and they're both plausible. His reason for unvoting me in the last post is weird and an excuse more than anything else (i wasn't gone for that long and it's weird regardless) and he completely avoided the arguments he was losing in, but bizarrely all this could just mean he's lost town. I think he'll be easier to get a definite read on eventually (unless he keeps being objectively bad in which case god help us all) but for now it's enough to take a different approach.

UNVOTE: ThunderHog
VOTE: Kawaii

Since the qt was so telling I had to remember to check the actual game thread to see how I feel about this and kawaii's entire iso is effortless so it matches and it's all good.

Another ISO I need to do is Quil. Hopefully by the time I'm done with him and DGB the thunderdog and zoidberg reads settle down.

[One Direction]

You're not supposed to care about it, just like you're not supposed to care that I made an amusing mafia song based on one direction lyrics. I do stuff like that all the time anyway, it's mostly for my own self amusement.

THe difference between the two is that one is an obvious irrelevant/joke thing, whereas the other is something that you should have no reason for mentioning in a town game

Yet I do mention things like that in town games all the time! Why didn't you give me + scumpoints for it though if you think I should have absolutely no reason to mention it?

[One Direction]

BT what do you think of me backing off you completely? (and basically not mentioning you since I voted you)

[One Direction]

Oh, yeah. I agree with 500 in the QT I'd almost go as far as to say he'd never ever say that as scum. I hadn't put that together with this game.

[BT]

BT what do you think of me backing off you completely? (and basically not mentioning you since I voted you)

I assumed you still think I'm scum but the new wagons are clearly a bigger deal. (you and most people that were on my wagon but disappeared) Backing off completely implies you don't?

500 in the QT

?

[One Direction]

I assumed you still think I'm scum but the new wagons are clearly a bigger deal. (you and most people that were on my wagon but disappeared) Backing off completely implies you don't?

Yeah, I think you're leaning town I just thought it was weird you didn't find my not mentioning you weird.

And post 500 in the quicktopic. I asked matt a question and he answered it and I don't think it's a good idea to publicise the actual reason because it's a bit But I'm pretty sold on Zoidberg town now.

[Pretentiousdra]

BT, I had a null read on you. After your last post I now lean town on your slot.

[BT]

I assumed you still think I'm scum but the new wagons are clearly a bigger deal. (you and most people that were on my wagon but disappeared) Backing off completely implies you don't?

Yeah, I think you're leaning town I just thought it was weird you didn't find my not mentioning you weird.

Yeah it's mostly that everyone was doing it. I'm pretty sure I haven't been mentioned more than once or twice in the last 20 pages.