Gay Mafia II: RIDE THE LIGHTNING (Game Over)

[vollkan]

vollkan what about the recent wagons? (DGB/OD/Wyrd)

I agreed with part of the OD (see: the points I gave him), but the others I either don't agree with or don't understand (and I'm not sure which)

[Om of the Nom]

I want people's opinion on Kawaii

He's barely posted much in the way of reasons for anything but his Wyrd vote, and a third of his ISO is basically the Wyrd crusade. His other posts have little to no use and he's not really trying. Still have a scumread on him.

[Nachomamma8]

JacobSavage and zoraster should die whenever, like seriously.

Can you elaborate on your reasons for these two scumreads?

Zoraster complained that people were accusing him of lurking, went on to lurk, and is now voting Thunderhog because Thunderhog complained about spammers.
Jacob comes in every once in a while and snipes random shit, isn't actually making the slightest effort to scumhunt but is making an effort to coast.

I understand the frustration with them, but both of those are basically just lurkers rather than scummy players.

Those two specifically are the only lurkers that really, really bother me. Dramonic is cheeky as fuck and blatantly not posting anything useful most of the time, but he does have aggressive moments and does seem like he's scumhunting sometimes. NS hasn't posted anything I can read yet, and drench is strange but still probably town. Zoraster and JacobSavage just need copious amounts of death.

hey nacho what's your read on vollkan

I don't like that he's focusing so hard on the BT/Thunder/Zoid trio, but I can't really blame him. I'd like to see him do his thing a little more before reading him better, though.

JacobSavage and zoraster should die whenever, like seriously.

Can you elaborate on your reasons for these two scumreads?

Zoraster complained that people were accusing him of lurking, went on to lurk, and is now voting Thunderhog because Thunderhog complained about spammers.
Jacob comes in every once in a while and snipes random shit, isn't actually making the slightest effort to scumhunt but is making an effort to coast.

I understand the frustration with them, but both of those are basically just lurkers rather than scummy players.

Those two specifically are the only lurkers that really, really bother me. Dramonic is cheeky as fuck and blatantly not posting anything useful most of the time, but he does have aggressive moments and does seem like he's scumhunting sometimes. NS hasn't posted anything I can read yet, and drench is strange but still probably town. Zoraster and JacobSavage just need copious amounts of death.

hey nacho what's your read on vollkan

I don't like that he's focusing so hard on the BT/Thunder/Zoid trio, but I can't really blame him. I'd like to see him do his thing a little more before reading him better, though.

why is it terrible? It seems pretty accurate.

I am not listening to DGB because she is scum and she is playing to her scum meta of being useless then having shit reads until late game is stupid for many reasons. First, not listening to someone because they bitched at you for spamming is useless because plenty of people yelled at chesskid for spamming. DGB shouldn't be special. The meta thing is stupid because he puts forth a meta point, states that it's different from usual scum meta, and calls it scum anyways. The shit reads thing is stupid because who the fuck knows who has good reads and who doesn't? It's day 1, don't care if you think you're a good scumhunter, you won't know if you're having a good game or an off game until people start dying.

I also don't see where DGB has put her reputation on the line by lynching us?

Let's do One-Direction today. I'm 100% on this. I'm rarely this certain. Have faith in my legendary scumdar.

As scum, she's basically giving up her mislynch power to kill one person, and guaranteeing that a whole bunch of lazy people are going to hop on her wagon because of backlash. It's not like she's giving up her reputation for the rest of her career, sure, but it's one of those things that she can't dismiss with "oh he was just being a scummy fuck".

How do you think DGB!scum would respond to me voting her anyway? Try to placate me? (That seems like a recipe for disaster since I despise things like that)

I expected DGBscum just to dismiss you. There's no reason why she specifically has to push you as scum for that. But I'll do a little research in my SPECIAL TIME REREADS to see what she usually does.

HEY YOU GUYS.

THUNDERHOG IS SERIOUSLY HITTING EVERY SCUMTELL THAT I KNOW OF FOR NEWER SCUM PLAYERS AND I'M QUITE CONFIDENT THAT HE'S SCUM.

gamma I hope you have more than one read and I'm just not remembering your other awesome posts.
because even if you're right, you can do better than one read.

I honestly considered replying to the comment with, "No." However, I figured that that would put me under even more criticism and suspicion than simply complying.

Newbies has this tendency to worry too much about how people will perceive certain actions. But when they are this transparent about it, they are usually town.

Well I figure that my vote on you among numerous other votes on you would constitute a wagon but I guess not.

By my count it's just you, Ythan and scumderhog.

I want to murder you in spirit.

[vollkan]

JacobSavage and zoraster should die whenever, like seriously.

Can you elaborate on your reasons for these two scumreads?

Zoraster complained that people were accusing him of lurking, went on to lurk, and is now voting Thunderhog because Thunderhog complained about spammers.
Jacob comes in every once in a while and snipes random shit, isn't actually making the slightest effort to scumhunt but is making an effort to coast.

I understand the frustration with them, but both of those are basically just lurkers rather than scummy players.

Those two specifically are the only lurkers that really, really bother me. Dramonic is cheeky as fuck and blatantly not posting anything useful most of the time, but he does have aggressive moments and does seem like he's scumhunting sometimes. NS hasn't posted anything I can read yet, and drench is strange but still probably town. Zoraster and JacobSavage just need copious amounts of death.

Granted, but that's really just different ways/extents of lurking. The fact of the matter still remains that neither Zoro nor JS has actually committed positive scumtells.

hey nacho what's your read on vollkan

I don't like that he's focusing so hard on the BT/Thunder/Zoid trio, but I can't really blame him. I'd like to see him do his thing a little more before reading him better, though.

JacobSavage and zoraster should die whenever, like seriously.

Can you elaborate on your reasons for these two scumreads?

Zoraster complained that people were accusing him of lurking, went on to lurk, and is now voting Thunderhog because Thunderhog complained about spammers.
Jacob comes in every once in a while and snipes random shit, isn't actually making the slightest effort to scumhunt but is making an effort to coast.

I understand the frustration with them, but both of those are basically just lurkers rather than scummy players.

Those two specifically are the only lurkers that really, really bother me. Dramonic is cheeky as fuck and blatantly not posting anything useful most of the time, but he does have aggressive moments and does seem like he's scumhunting sometimes. NS hasn't posted anything I can read yet, and drench is strange but still probably town. Zoraster and JacobSavage just need copious amounts of death.

hey nacho what's your read on vollkan

I don't like that he's focusing so hard on the BT/Thunder/Zoid trio, but I can't really blame him. I'd like to see him do his thing a little more before reading him better, though.

why is it terrible? It seems pretty accurate.

I am not listening to DGB because she is scum and she is playing to her scum meta of being useless then having shit reads until late game is stupid for many reasons. First, not listening to someone because they bitched at you for spamming is useless because plenty of people yelled at chesskid for spamming. DGB shouldn't be special. The meta thing is stupid because he puts forth a meta point, states that it's different from usual scum meta, and calls it scum anyways. The shit reads thing is stupid because who the fuck knows who has good reads and who doesn't? It's day 1, don't care if you think you're a good scumhunter, you won't know if you're having a good game or an off game until people start dying.

I also don't see where DGB has put her reputation on the line by lynching us?

Let's do One-Direction today. I'm 100% on this. I'm rarely this certain. Have faith in my legendary scumdar.

As scum, she's basically giving up her mislynch power to kill one person, and guaranteeing that a whole bunch of lazy people are going to hop on her wagon because of backlash. It's not like she's giving up her reputation for the rest of her career, sure, but it's one of those things that she can't dismiss with "oh he was just being a scummy fuck".

How do you think DGB!scum would respond to me voting her anyway? Try to placate me? (That seems like a recipe for disaster since I despise things like that)

I expected DGBscum just to dismiss you. There's no reason why she specifically has to push you as scum for that. But I'll do a little research in my SPECIAL TIME REREADS to see what she usually does.

HEY YOU GUYS.

THUNDERHOG IS SERIOUSLY HITTING EVERY SCUMTELL THAT I KNOW OF FOR NEWER SCUM PLAYERS AND I'M QUITE CONFIDENT THAT HE'S SCUM.

gamma I hope you have more than one read and I'm just not remembering your other awesome posts.
because even if you're right, you can do better than one read.

I honestly considered replying to the comment with, "No." However, I figured that that would put me under even more criticism and suspicion than simply complying.

Newbies has this tendency to worry too much about how people will perceive certain actions. But when they are this transparent about it, they are usually town.

Well I figure that my vote on you among numerous other votes on you would constitute a wagon but I guess not.

By my count it's just you, Ythan and scumderhog.

I want to murder you in spirit.[/quote]

[vollkan]

JacobSavage and zoraster should die whenever, like seriously.

Can you elaborate on your reasons for these two scumreads?

Zoraster complained that people were accusing him of lurking, went on to lurk, and is now voting Thunderhog because Thunderhog complained about spammers.
Jacob comes in every once in a while and snipes random shit, isn't actually making the slightest effort to scumhunt but is making an effort to coast.

I understand the frustration with them, but both of those are basically just lurkers rather than scummy players.

Those two specifically are the only lurkers that really, really bother me. Dramonic is cheeky as fuck and blatantly not posting anything useful most of the time, but he does have aggressive moments and does seem like he's scumhunting sometimes. NS hasn't posted anything I can read yet, and drench is strange but still probably town. Zoraster and JacobSavage just need copious amounts of death.

Granted, but that's really just different ways/extents of lurking. The fact of the matter still remains that neither Zoro nor JS has actually committed positive scumtells.

[Nachomamma8]

Rereading Wyrd, closer and closer.

His original "chess is scum" theory sucks some major ass, but I don't really see the scum motivation behind it. Fate doesn't really check in with anyone else as to whether that happened to their hydra or not, and instead just throws it out there. Now, as scum, he has the QT as he knows that most of the hydras started things out pretty immediately. So he knows something like that is going to be attacked, so why the hell would he suggest something like that in the first place?

Post #888 is a lot better. ScumFate is known to throw shitfits when the town starts to align against him (as dramonic has said), but revealing the fact that the QT exists, synopsising it, directly confronting 8 players about their scumread on him while not really collecting up the allies like he usually does seems pretty town. Add to the the Ythan scumread (going immediately into attacking people who defend him), and I'm fine with this post too.

There's a bunch of chesskid fighting, which is fine, then a bunch of bouncing around until he follows DGB on One Direction. I don't know whether Fate is more likely to hope like this as scum or town, but don't really care. It did remind me of #1418, though, which was really, really shitty. Still don't particularly think Wyrd is scum.

DGB:
In Ladies Night 2, ended up pushing people a lot harder, was a bit more flexible, didn't really react to anyone voting her ever. Game was also a lot shorter, though; faster paced (the whole game was shorter than our D1), so that probably has to do a bit with it. Didn't get significant suspicion, dismissed most people who suspected her.

Gay Mafia is unfortunately mostly gone now, but DGB doesn't give anything even resembling a shit about explaining reads in the posts that are left, whereas in this game she takes special efforts to explain her reads on people (and all because of

ythan

, of all people). She goes on the OMGUS here, but it's not really as dramatic as it is here.

Weather Mafia II was a similar story, and comes with DGB talking about how she was bored of getting scum so damn much. Here she was dismissive as hell of people who had scumreads of her, went for the mislynch, didn't really explain anything at all to anyone at all.

Tigers vs Otters vs Sharks is a bunch of DGB trolling as scum, so it's a bit irrelevant. It's more of not explaining things, pushing mislynches on the DGB charm, not really giving a shit about anything.

...and that's about as far as I have the patience to go. DGB's been aggressive as hell (with reasons and everything!), she isn't playing for the easy mislynches that she occasionally has the the tendency to as scum, and unless she caught her scum stride after a hell of a "sick of it" spell, I'm pretty fucking confident that she's town. The hypocritical bits around the "I HATE SPAMMERS" episode is probably the point that resonates the most with me, but honestly I can't really blame her at all for it. I love spamming, and even I was getting a little restless for the game to start and the bullshit to stop. The townread on Wyrd is reminiscent of the kuribo townread in Gay Mafia a bit which makes me worry, but it's an odd combination for scum synthesis, and it makes sense for DGB to have a townread on someone who is agreeing with most of what she's saying, so I don't really care. The OMGUS bit is ridiculous, sure, but it doesn't seem along the lines of normal DGBscum discrediting. It seems like she got a strong read and is sticking with it, and this is backed up by the Ythan interactions. She really didn't put that much legwork into doing anything as scum, and I see no reason why she would start it up now.

So DGB is also a cool townread.
And where is matt and kaney? I miss them.

[Nachomamma8]

Granted, but that's really just different ways/extents of lurking. The fact of the matter still remains that neither Zoro nor JS has actually committed positive scumtells.

This post is pretty scummy. You might disagree since you're getting mad scumdings from Thunderhog, but I've never been a fan of "experienced player and weaker player are doing the exact same thing, so I'm going to vote the weaker player since I find the experienced player town".
As far as Jacob goes, yeah, there's nothing solid. Still would support his death :/

[SlumberPartyBois]

And where is matt and kaney? I miss them.

matts studying his butt off and im still in a huff.

[SlumberPartyBois]

I've already started falling behind in this and finals are mon-thurs so I'm anticipating it's only gonna get worse, so

V/LA til Friday

Aren't you a hydra though? You're telling me that both / all of you are V/LA until Friday? I find that rather difficult to believe...

No it isn't. Why would you think it's "rather difficult to believe"?

Isn't the definition of a hydra the fact that there is more than one person using that single account? How is it that all of them have to have the same exact V/LA time? Just doesn't make sense to me.

why is this a big deal to you? what does it say to you about our alignment?

[Wyrd]

I had a dream that I was chasing chesskid and his girlfriend through the jungle

he was hiding in plain fucking sight under our helipad we landed on like a cheeky scumfuck

I think its a sign

[Wyrd]

going to re-read thunderhog cause Gammas p.town and seems to be sure he's onto something

Let me guess the OD wagon stalled out

[Wyrd]

I've already started falling behind in this and finals are mon-thurs so I'm anticipating it's only gonna get worse, so

V/LA til Friday

Aren't you a hydra though? You're telling me that both / all of you are V/LA until Friday? I find that rather difficult to believe...

No it isn't. Why would you think it's "rather difficult to believe"?

Isn't the definition of a hydra the fact that there is more than one person using that single account? How is it that all of them have to have the same exact V/LA time? Just doesn't make sense to me.

why is this a big deal to you? what does it say to you about our alignment?

I mean this alone is enough reason to kill him

Pushing a Hydra for being V/LA, but pushing it like a scumfuck "I find that rather difficult to believe" is all kinds of horseshit mudslinging language

Unvote:
Vote: Thunderhog

[Nachomamma8]

fate why is gamma town?

[Wyrd]

Other than that, have some one-liner and random reads:

OD = Town lean - I really don't see why there are so many votes there.
NM = Town slightly-further-than-leaning - Despite low post count, actually seems to be scumhunting. Seems to be one of the only ones too...
Kawaii = An arrogant jerkoff. I'm gonna put you in the same column as P-dra.

Since Iec seems to demand I place a vote, I'm going to put it right back where it was before.

Vote: Zoid

Scumbuddy Kawaii is convienently an arrogant jerkoff? Nice excuse to not have a read on him

Aqueising (why the fuck arent you helping GOOGLE CHROME) to Iecrint (aka probtown) to vote someone?

Voting for ZOID mislynch fodder since before OD primed himself to vote him?

DING DING DING SCUM DING

[Wyrd]

fate why is gamma town?

definitely not enough gamma scumtroll to be scum

[Wyrd]

Once you've met gamma in person he posts like he talks so you just kinda imagine his voice saying the posts and you go "lolgammatown"

[Wyrd]

hmm.

HMMMM.

Unvote, Vote: Thunderhog

giving reasons is a scumtell

*pro tips*

So I was posting on Fate n shit yesterday, with no idea this game had started, but CHESSKIDHYDRA knew it had started? Maybe their scum QT closed?

this is retarded and you KNOW it's retarded.

no neither of you start stupid namecalling horseshit

^prime examples

(also hey he's the first one voting Thunderscum and that ain't no bus)

[Wyrd]

Also Kawaii admitting the entirety of his "scumread" on me is LOLMETA and "First posts bro" when I've ADMITTED those first few posts were pretty unlike me and awkward is for teh killing.

REMEMBER REMEMBER THE VIG OF DECEMBER

[Nachomamma8]

okay gamma is town

[Fate]

I want people's opinion on Kawaii

obvscumvigscum

[Wyrd]

I want people's opinion on Kawaii

obvscumvigscum

Also I'm thinkin volkan is town this game

[Quilford]

I have also arrived at the conclusion vollkan is town.

Don't wanna lynch ThunderHog. Someone made some very salient points on him being newbtown (was it Gamma?).

[BT]

No it was me

Gamma is the one out for blood

But I'm not even sure myself

ThunderHog if you're town calm down and post regularly, if not then I'll be forced to default to newbscum eventually

[Kawaii]

[KISE]

sdakjfsafhjkfhsjkf

Lost my smedium sized post from clearing cookies, it logged me out, qq

No internet sometime this week until around new years

Short and sweet, Kats and I don't have many similar reads. Wyrd ain't getting lynch so Kats should be fine with this

unvote; vote: Thunderhog

Scummies:
Delta, Iece (don't ask why yet like I know you want to, I'll get to it when I finish the last 15 pages), Thun, Drench...HOPE IT'S NOT NACHO

[Pretentiousdra]

I had a dream that I was chasing chesskid and his girlfriend through the jungle

he was hiding in plain fucking sight under our helipad we landed on like a cheeky scumfuck

I think its a sign

that you're scum yea

No but serioulsy we've not been posting because :break:
Chesskid's sick, Dan's busy doing :stuff: at home and Elli is idk enjoying break?