Mini 1404 - Monopoly Mafia - Game Over

[Robert2424]

then I miscounted the number of property's, here I was thinking I was lucky with two cards while I thought others got one.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Current Vote Count 1.06

Lurker - 3 (Xisiqomelir, Lord Mhork, StrangerCoug) (L-4)

Jal - 2 (Baby Spice, Robert2424) (L-5)
Xisiqomelir - 2 (numberQ, Mehdi2277) (L-5)
StrangerCoug - 2 (Jake From State Farm, Jal) (L-5)
Baby Spice - 1 (Nobody Special) (L-6)
Lord Mhork - 1 (Lurker) (L-6)

Not Voting: Agent_Ireland, Mogadishu Jones, Robert2424

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch
Deadline is in

(expired on 2013-01-05 14:10:00)

~numberQ has been prodded~
~Nobody Special has been prodded~

mod, can we pass cards to people?

No

[Robert2424]

@Mod, I am voting....

[Mehdi2277]

SC why didn't you unvote lurker before? He claimed before your last two posts.

[Mehdi2277]

And Xis now that I finished reading that wall what did you think of lurker in post 96? I don't want a vague answer I just want your read on him. Was it null, scum, town and why back then?

[Robert2424]

O.o, I landed on Community Chest.

[StrangerCoug]

SC why didn't you unvote lurker before? He claimed before your last two posts.

My interpretation of the claim is that the watcher comes from one of the cards, which, as far as I know, everybody has. If it were not tied to the cards, I don't think he would have claimed "vanilla with a one-shot ability"; I think he would have dropped the "vanilla" qualifier. The claim itself is not in question as far as I'm concerned, but the way it's worded, I don't think it warrants an unvote.

[Mehdi2277]

And what card did you get?

I'd laugh if gnr is playing a real game of monopoly as we play mafia and as the game continues cards will be lost without death. If you can land on CC then you can land on my cards and end up paying them to me (the reverse also works). The more likely theory remains random people are picked for events like that.

P-edit: Not everyone has a place like electric works (or whatever the name is). One of the only things you can own that's not a street/avenue/etc (RR being the other that with 4 would be weaker).

[Robert2424]

It says I get two votes this day phase. Via PM from the mod. So a double voter randomly?

@Mehdi, when playing Monopoly, Railroads are more valuable then meets the eye. landing on a rail road owned by a player with just one I think is only 25. The price doubles with each railroad that player owns. if they own all four. 200 each time you land on one of those spots. Plus, if you own them, its a free space on each side of the board.

[Robert2424]

it also says bank error in my favor

[Mehdi2277]

So maybe the second vote on the board is just another for you to use. Assuming you can change it like the first using both votes together works best.

[Robert2424]

idk if I can or if I place it, it stuck. I'll pm and find out.

[Jake from State Farm]

Mehdi, why are you asking people what cards they have? Robert why did you claim double voter?

[Baby Spice]

@Baby Spice:

Firstly, 72% of the first wagon to get to four votes in a game has scum on it. (Using the vote count posts to determine when that four votes occurred)

Is this meant to be a serious statistic? If yes (which can be inferred from #148), is it based only on minis, or is your sample size very large?

Yes. Yes only mini's. They are standard enough here that this sort of crude analysis will work, and the sample size was way to small to be statistically significant (been too long for me to remember how to work out how many samples would be needed but suspect it would be in the hundreds.) But the overall trend was holding very well.
(If you're interested in a 3/10 game which is kind of standard for mini's, any random group of four players has about a 71% chance of containing at least one scum. That's why I trust my little four wagon stat despite the small sample size)

The real use will come later hopefully.

[Jake from State Farm]

I'm curious how you established that percentage. Did yo analyze every completed game?

[Lurker]

28/13 = 2 remainder 2

11 people have 2 cards while 2 people have 3 cards.

I'm curious how Mhork flipping scum condemns spice. I can somewhat see mhork becoming more suspicious if spice flips scum but not the other way around.

Aren't there also Community chests and Chance cards? That would make the variety of cards even more.

[Mehdi2277]

I'm not counting them and only counting initial cards we got. And Jake I don't see giving number of cards as a problem.

[Jake from State Farm]

but you didn't ask the number, you asked Stranger what card he had.

[Mogadishu Jones]

Will have spotty activity for the next day or so as I run around on some airplanes.

[Jake from State Farm]

you aren't the alt of Maestro are you?

[Mogadishu Jones]

No. Read the thread I'm new here.

[Lord Mhork]

I'll get to this after school and auditions and whatnot.

[Xisiqomelir]

My 1-shot ability Is watcher.

Okay.

UNVOTE: Lurker

Now, I have some options:

Spoiler:

VOTE: Lurker for lurking... wait

@Lurker

Ok... So there was a joke with my username...

Ok then. It look like we are still in RVS, So I'll leave my vote for now.

I'm glad you read four posts after your last one and decided you didn't need to play the game anymore.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Lurker

I like

VOTE: Lurker

for thinking that he could just drop his vote and not help move the game from RVS.

Holy crap somehow I missed posts 43-46.

I'm down for this

unvote: vote lurker

@lurker: regarding post #44, why did you feel the need to announce you weren't moving your vote?

Pal, did you even read my last post? I amended my reaction fishing statement after it was clear I had made a mistake.

UNVOTE: Lord Mhork

Ok, My first in a (hopefully) series of reads. First off I will read Lord Mhork.

His first vote, Post #119, He votes me for the same reason as Jal did, or as they call it, sheeping. He goes on to say that Jal is town.

One of these would be a bit of a slip, but permissible. Two however, seems like buddying.

In post 126 He says that Medhi was reaction fishing. He also said that early wagons were bad.

Medhi did indeed support reaction fishing as said in post #24. "It's the ideal time to reaction fish". However, she did not do so.

In post #130 he stills disagrees with the wagon point when It has been pointed out there is some sheeping on the wagon.

He also FOS's Robert, with no explanation other that "Get an avatar".

I have a scum read on this guy. I also think I may have convinced myself for pushing for his lynch.

Vote: Lord Mhork

First, why is sheeping bad? Why is it inherently scummy and voteworthy? What if I flat out admit that I liked the point Jal made so much that it seemed like the best vote?

Second, where did I say that early wagons were bad? Oh you must mean that

sarcastic

remark that I said was

sarcasm

and was obviously

sarcasm

because I was helping to build an early wagon.

Third, what are you even talking about with the sheep and me disagreeing with the wagon point? How do those two correlate in the slightest?

Fourth, you are an idiot. If you actually, you know, read my posts, it would miraculously become clear that the FoS was not due to the lack of avatar, but rather the reaction fishing! Egasp! Brilliant!

Fifth, your vote on me is bad and you should feel bad with your poorly done IIoA.

Sold.

L-1 VOTE: Lurker

One of these things is not like the others.

VOTE: StrangerCoug

@StrangerCoug

: What were you sold on in the quoted #227 by Mhork?

@Robert2424

:

Please don't call me bobby. My name is Robert.....

Sure thing.

@Mehdi2277

:

And Xis now that I finished reading that wall what did you think of lurker in post 96? I don't want a vague answer I just want your read on him. Was it null, scum, town and why back then?

By post #96, Lurker was up to #4 in his ISO. Of those 5 posts, the RVS votes on Jake and Robert are null, as are isos #3 and #4. Post #44 had the questionable:

Ok... So there was a joke with my username...

Ok then. It look like we are still in RVS, So I'll leave my vote for now.

So at that point, Lurker was leaning scummish.

Currently, I'm willing to let him verify his claim, though I'm curious how he missed my questions to him in #289 (

@Lurker

: Please answer #289).

[Xisiqomelir]

@Mod, I am voting....

It says I get two votes this day phase. Via PM from the mod. So a double voter randomly?

Current Vote Count 1.06

Lurker - 3 (Xisiqomelir, Lord Mhork, StrangerCoug) (L-4)

Jal - 2 (Baby Spice, Robert2424) (L-5)

Xisiqomelir - 2 (numberQ, Mehdi2277) (L-5)
StrangerCoug - 2 (Jake From State Farm, Jal) (L-5)
Baby Spice - 1 (Nobody Special) (L-6)
Lord Mhork - 1 (Lurker) (L-6)

Not Voting: Agent_Ireland, Mogadishu Jones, Robert2424

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch
Deadline is in

(expired on 2013-01-05 14:10:00)

~numberQ has been prodded~
~Nobody Special has been prodded~

mod, can we pass cards to people?

No

Looks like something is wrong somewhere.

[StrangerCoug]

Spoiler:

VOTE: Lurker for lurking... wait

@Lurker

Ok... So there was a joke with my username...

Ok then. It look like we are still in RVS, So I'll leave my vote for now.

I'm glad you read four posts after your last one and decided you didn't need to play the game anymore.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Lurker

I like

VOTE: Lurker

for thinking that he could just drop his vote and not help move the game from RVS.

Holy crap somehow I missed posts 43-46.

I'm down for this

unvote: vote lurker

@lurker: regarding post #44, why did you feel the need to announce you weren't moving your vote?

Pal, did you even read my last post? I amended my reaction fishing statement after it was clear I had made a mistake.

UNVOTE: Lord Mhork

Ok, My first in a (hopefully) series of reads. First off I will read Lord Mhork.

His first vote, Post #119, He votes me for the same reason as Jal did, or as they call it, sheeping. He goes on to say that Jal is town.

One of these would be a bit of a slip, but permissible. Two however, seems like buddying.

In post 126 He says that Medhi was reaction fishing. He also said that early wagons were bad.

Medhi did indeed support reaction fishing as said in post #24. "It's the ideal time to reaction fish". However, she did not do so.

In post #130 he stills disagrees with the wagon point when It has been pointed out there is some sheeping on the wagon.

He also FOS's Robert, with no explanation other that "Get an avatar".

I have a scum read on this guy. I also think I may have convinced myself for pushing for his lynch.

Vote: Lord Mhork

First, why is sheeping bad? Why is it inherently scummy and voteworthy? What if I flat out admit that I liked the point Jal made so much that it seemed like the best vote?

Second, where did I say that early wagons were bad? Oh you must mean that

sarcastic

remark that I said was

sarcasm

and was obviously

sarcasm

because I was helping to build an early wagon.

Third, what are you even talking about with the sheep and me disagreeing with the wagon point? How do those two correlate in the slightest?

Fourth, you are an idiot. If you actually, you know, read my posts, it would miraculously become clear that the FoS was not due to the lack of avatar, but rather the reaction fishing! Egasp! Brilliant!

Fifth, your vote on me is bad and you should feel bad with your poorly done IIoA.

Sold.

L-1 VOTE: Lurker

One of these things is not like the others.

VOTE: StrangerCoug

This is flawed. I don't have to agree with everybody else on why Lurker is scummy; if I see something else instead, that's just as good.

@StrangerCoug

: What were you sold on in the quoted #227 by Mhork?

I answered something like this already.