Gay Mafia II: RIDE THE LIGHTNING (Game Over)

[DrippingGoofball]

T-Hog not scum with

DGB
Iece
P-dra
vollkan
Wyrd
Zoid
SPB
Drench * added from previous list, I had missed this one

T-Hog may be scum with 1/3 below

OD = Town lean - I really don't see why there are so many votes there.
NM

* who is that?

= Town slightly-further-than-leaning - Despite low post count, actually seems to be scumhunting. Seems to be one of the only ones too...
Kawaii = An arrogant jerkoff. I'm gonna put you in the same column as P-dra.

T-Hog may be scum with

DeltaWave
zoraster
TheButtonmen
Quilford
JacobSavage
TheTrollie

[DrippingGoofball]

UPDATE

TOWNZ

DrippingGoofball
Wyrd (Nuwen/Fate hydra)
Om of the Nom
dramonic
Zoidberg - announcing that he's walking away is a townie move but rest is bad.
Iecerint
vollkan - a little too IIoA to be in above category by spamfest IS a put off so I sympathize.
Slumberpartybois (MattP/kanyeknowsbest hydra)
Drench

LEANING TOWNZ

DeltaWave
One Direction (Faraday/Empire hydra)
Gammagooey
Ythan
BT
Nachomamma8

LEANING SCUMZ

zoraster
Pretentiousdra (chesskid/Ellibereth/Action Dan hydra)
Kawaii (Kise/Katsuki hydra)

SCUMZ

Quilford - no read on vollkan or kuribo??? Too lynch-happy. Defended P-dra for nothing.
Nobody Special - if that's the NM in T-Hog's list
JacobSavage
TheTrollieDeltaWave
zoraster
TheButtonmen

I'm going to check the reciprocals now, this was a mix of my reads + what I get from a T-hog iso.

[Iecerint]

I think NM means Nacho.

[Quilford]

(disregard that and vote DGB)

[DrippingGoofball]

Sorry I might be splitting my posts because my computer is very wobbly and shuts itself off all the time. I'm getting a new one, I'm waiting for delivery.

I've played with Quilford scum and there is nothing re-assuringly town in his iso. T-Hog ignored Quilford and never mentioned him.
NS posted nothing at all but IFF that's who T-Hog means in his "town-list" of P-dra, Kawaii & "NM" I'm willing to bet NS is scum because there is no way he could have a read on him.

[DrippingGoofball]

Aw, Nacho. OK that still means 1/3 of NM, P-dra and Kawaii is scum but now I cannot tell which.

[Iecerint]

Why is TheTrollie on your scum list?

[DrippingGoofball]

UPDATE

TOWNZ

DrippingGoofball
Wyrd (Nuwen/Fate hydra)
Om of the Nom
dramonic
Zoidberg - announcing that he's walking away is a townie move but rest is bad.
Iecerint
vollkan - a little too IIoA to be in above category by spamfest IS a put off so I sympathize.
Slumberpartybois (MattP/kanyeknowsbest hydra)
Drench

LEANING TOWNZ

DeltaWave
One Direction (Faraday/Empire hydra)
Gammagooey
Ythan
BT

LEANING SCUMZ

zoraster
Nobody Special - actually, I'm too lazy for "neutral" category but should be neutral.

1/3 IS SCUMZ

Nachomamma8
Pretentiousdra (chesskid/Ellibereth/Action Dan hydra)
Kawaii (Kise/Katsuki hydra)

SCUMZ

Quilford

- no read on vollkan or kuribo??? Too lynch-happy. Defended P-dra for nothing.

JacobSavage

TheTrollie
DeltaWave
zoraster
TheButtonmen

JacobSavage only voted P-dra early on, pissed around, and then bus'sed T-Hog being 12 on a 13-person lynch.

Bolded means that they are still scum after reciprocal search.

[SlumberPartyBois]

VOTE: DGB

[DrippingGoofball]

Why is TheTrollie on your scum list?

Because T-Hog never mentions Trollie. I have to check if the both ignored each other, if they did, I would move him.

ON QUILFORD:

I have also arrived at the conclusion vollkan is town.

Don't wanna lynch ThunderHog. Someone made some very salient points on him being newbtown (was it Gamma?).

I feel like there are gonna be a few scum bussing ThunderHog, that was a nice easy wagon imo

Quilford goes from boldly not wanting to lynch T-Hog because Gamma(?) made some VERY SALIENT points on him being newbtown, to viewing the T-Hog wagon as few scum bus'ing on it because it's an easy wagon. Quilford does not vote T-Hog.

There are several turnarounds here. First, he blames Gamma (a townie, it turns out) for a convincing town-read on his buddy. This town read is based on noobness so it's nice to excuse T-Hog for future mistakes/bad-play that he's bound to make.

But here's the kicker: Quilford, who has a noobtown read on THog borrowed from Gamma-town, now suggest that THog is an easy wagon with lots of scum on it... scum that is bus'ing!!!

WHAT???? THog was an easy wagon because the scum decided to bus,

en masse

??? It was a easy wagon because scum bus'ed their buddies with only few townies voting THog??? WHAT???

[DrippingGoofball]

So here's what happened in Quilford's head with the THog wagon.

What he really wanted to says is that it was an easy wagon with lots of scum bus'ing a noob player making noob mistakes.

But Quilford accidentally wrote in that THog was being bus'ed, which makes absolutely no sense at all.

[DrippingGoofball]

Trollie ignored THog until this point:

hog

Now, Trollie was 6/13 on the THog wagon.

So there is nothing in Trollie and THog's iso that excludes Trollie from being scum with THog.

[DrippingGoofball]

So here's what happened in Quilford's head with the THog wagon.

What he really wanted to says is that it was an easy wagon with lots of scum bus'ing a noob player making noob mistakes.

But Quilford accidentally wrote in that THog was being bus'ed, which makes absolutely no sense at all.

I checked the timing of Quilford saying that THog was being bus'ed. Someone else can double-check, but as far as I can tell, Quilford made this statement AFTER THog got his thirteenth vote.

If Quilford is scum, this might actually indicate that the THog wagon was predominantly town. Someone should think of verifying this after I'm dead and Quilford's alignment is known. Promise me please.

[Quilford]

It's nice you're trying so hard DGB.

[Quilford]

(hint: you can stop now, just let us lynch you)

[Quilford]

I feel like there are gonna be a few scum bussing ThunderHog, that was a nice easy wagon imo

Quilford goes from boldly not wanting to lynch T-Hog because Gamma(?) made some VERY SALIENT points on him being newbtown, to viewing the T-Hog wagon as few scum bus'ing on it because it's an easy wagon. Quilford does not vote T-Hog.

There are several turnarounds here. First, he blames Gamma (a townie, it turns out) for a convincing town-read on his buddy. This town read is based on noobness so it's nice to excuse T-Hog for future mistakes/bad-play that he's bound to make.

But here's the kicker: Quilford, who has a noobtown read on THog borrowed from Gamma-town, now suggest that THog is an easy wagon with lots of scum on it... scum that is bus'ing!!!

WHAT???? THog was an easy wagon because the scum decided to bus,

en masse

??? It was a easy wagon because scum bus'ed their buddies with only few townies voting THog??? WHAT???

Yes DGB, that was because ThunderHog had actually been flipped by the time I said that.

Huh. What about that.

[DrippingGoofball]

From DeltaWave's iso

Can anyone explain to me real quick what the deal with hog is?

I'm just really behind. I'll ISO Thunderhog.

I don't see TH's "careful" post as meaning anything. I can see that sentiment coming from town or scum.

Kise, weren't you guys wishing for Wyrd's death?

Yeah the JS vote looks like a bus. That wagon materialized so fast that I'd venture that some hard bussing went on.

Frankly I'm not certain that this is scum hoping a quick lynch on a buddy won't disappear or town actually not finding TH particularly scummy.

DeltaWave's theory that JacobSavage might be bus'ing has some merit, and just the fact that DW would name a bus'ing suspect on the wagon (as opposed to Quilford who gives no names), tempts me into giving DW a pass away from my scumlist

[SlumberPartyBois]

This is sad

[DrippingGoofball]

I feel like there are gonna be a few scum bussing ThunderHog, that was a nice easy wagon imo

Quilford goes from boldly not wanting to lynch T-Hog because Gamma(?) made some VERY SALIENT points on him being newbtown, to viewing the T-Hog wagon as few scum bus'ing on it because it's an easy wagon. Quilford does not vote T-Hog.

There are several turnarounds here. First, he blames Gamma (a townie, it turns out) for a convincing town-read on his buddy. This town read is based on noobness so it's nice to excuse T-Hog for future mistakes/bad-play that he's bound to make.

But here's the kicker: Quilford, who has a noobtown read on THog borrowed from Gamma-town, now suggest that THog is an easy wagon with lots of scum on it... scum that is bus'ing!!!

WHAT???? THog was an easy wagon because the scum decided to bus,

en masse

??? It was a easy wagon because scum bus'ed their buddies with only few townies voting THog??? WHAT???

Yes DGB, that was because ThunderHog had actually been flipped by the time I said that.

Huh. What about that.

That doesn't change much, you're still claiming that it was an easy wagon because scum decided to bus...

[DrippingGoofball]

Now, if we want to start a P-hydra wagon - I'm in. It's true that I do have a town-lean read on him, but this entire thread would be so much more bearable were he not in it - and in a game this large I'd be willing to sacrifice a town-lean for a much better rest of the game.

VOTE: Thunderhog

Getting tired of this line of reasoning. Waaah the thread is too long. Yeah. It is. And it kind of sucks. but you don't win games by simply lynching annoying people. He set up the whole "I hate hydras" thing in his first fluffy post, then said he'd "support" a wagon he does not support as scum. DGB also is guilty of this, but I get town from her.

zoraster is town. This is a town vote. Will move out of scumlist.

[Kawaii]

[KISE]

2+2 = DGB scum

Vote DGB

I had you as town at least.

LEANING SCUMZ

zoraster
Nobody Special - actually, I'm too lazy for "neutral" category but should be neutral.

Hue.

[DrippingGoofball]

UPDATE

TOWNZ

DrippingGoofball
Wyrd (Nuwen/Fate hydra)
Om of the Nom
dramonic
Zoidberg - announcing that he's walking away is a townie move but rest is bad.
Iecerint
vollkan - a little too IIoA to be in above category by spamfest IS a put off so I sympathize.
Drench
zoraster

LEANING TOWNZ

DeltaWave
One Direction (Faraday/Empire hydra)
Gammagooey
Ythan
BT
Slumberpartybois (MattP/kanyeknowsbest hydra) (their following Quilford-scum's vote is not good)

LEANING SCUMZ/NEUTRAL

zoraster
Nobody Special - actually, I'm too lazy for "neutral" category but should be neutral.
DeltaWave
TheTrollie (not liking mutual ignoring between THog & Trollie)

1/3 IS SCUMZ

Nachomamma8
Pretentiousdra (chesskid/Ellibereth/Action Dan hydra)
Kawaii (Kise/Katsuki hydra)

SCUMZ

Quilford

- no read on vollkan or kuribo??? Too lynch-happy. Defended P-dra for nothing.

JacobSavage

TheButtonmen (nothing in short iso warrants moving up)

JacobSavage only voted P-dra early on, pissed around, and then bus'sed T-Hog being 12 on a 13-person lynch.

Bolded means that they are still scum after reciprocal search.

Willing to lynch Quilford or JacobSavage today.
VOTE: Quilford

[Quilford]

I feel like there are gonna be a few scum bussing ThunderHog, that was a nice easy wagon imo

Quilford goes from boldly not wanting to lynch T-Hog because Gamma(?) made some VERY SALIENT points on him being newbtown, to viewing the T-Hog wagon as few scum bus'ing on it because it's an easy wagon. Quilford does not vote T-Hog.

There are several turnarounds here. First, he blames Gamma (a townie, it turns out) for a convincing town-read on his buddy. This town read is based on noobness so it's nice to excuse T-Hog for future mistakes/bad-play that he's bound to make.

But here's the kicker: Quilford, who has a noobtown read on THog borrowed from Gamma-town, now suggest that THog is an easy wagon with lots of scum on it... scum that is bus'ing!!!

WHAT???? THog was an easy wagon because the scum decided to bus,

en masse

??? It was a easy wagon because scum bus'ed their buddies with only few townies voting THog??? WHAT???

Yes DGB, that was because ThunderHog had actually been flipped by the time I said that.

Huh. What about that.

That doesn't change much, you're still claiming that it was an easy wagon because scum decided to bus...

No I'm not. I'm claiming that it was an easy wagon because he was an angry newb.

[DrippingGoofball]

CORRECTIONS

UPDATE

TOWNZ

DrippingGoofball
Wyrd (Nuwen/Fate hydra)
Om of the Nom
dramonic
Zoidberg - announcing that he's walking away is a townie move but rest is bad.
Iecerint
vollkan - a little too IIoA to be in above category by spamfest IS a put off so I sympathize.
Drench
zoraster

LEANING TOWNZ

DeltaWave
One Direction (Faraday/Empire hydra)
Ythan
BT
Slumberpartybois (MattP/kanyeknowsbest hydra) (their following Quilford-scum's vote is not good)

LEANING SCUMZ/NEUTRAL

Nobody Special - actually, I'm too lazy for "neutral" category but should be neutral.
DeltaWave
TheTrollie (not liking mutual ignoring between THog & Trollie)

1/3 IS SCUMZ

Nachomamma8
Pretentiousdra (chesskid/Ellibereth/Action Dan hydra)
Kawaii (Kise/Katsuki hydra)

SCUMZ

Quilford

- no read on vollkan or kuribo??? Too lynch-happy. Defended P-dra for nothing.

JacobSavage

TheButtonmen (nothing in short iso warrants moving up)

[DrippingGoofball]

No I'm not. I'm claiming that it was an easy wagon because he was an angry newb.

So now THog was an angry newb (first time you say he was angry), and you're recanting your earlier statement that he was bus'ed heavily?

I personally didn't find THog standing out as "angry" but that's neither here nor there.

You're scum, though.

DIE