Newbie 1315: Van Helsing (Over)

[serrapaladin]

No

[Bitmap]

Actually reads tommorow as it is hard to quote on phone, however Perhaps we can do something like this for d1 this is just an idea please reject it if you wish :

We no lynch day1 with no claims then cop ( if we have one ) investigates someone. The cop then 'outs ' who he investigated if he got a guilty, if not he keeps quiet, we lynch on day 2 and that person claims when we get to l-1 we choose weather to believe them or not depending on their play so far and we lynch again day 3

How does that sound to you people

Obviously we need to start discussion on the thread to form more concrete reads and we can still do that here

No.

VOTE: evilpire

Try harder.

[serrapaladin]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: evilpire

Still most suspicious of your slot.

Also, please get an avatar.

[Bitmap]

It's never a good idea to no lynch in Newbie games. Ever. The only time you ever no lynch is when 4 people left and 1 scum or 6 people left and 2 scum.

[Untrod Tripod]

Votecount 1.6

Spawnisen - 2 (kwll, awestfie)
awestfie - 0
MP5 - 0
evilpire - 3 (MP5, Bitmap, serrapaladin)
Bitmap - 0
serrapaladin - 0
kwll - 3 (Spawnisen, Nekoko, Ser Arthur Daye)
Nekoko - 0
Ser Arthur Dayne - 0

Not Voting - 1 (evilpire)

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch

[Spawnisen]

Or we just work off like we have done so far

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: evilpire

Still most suspicious of your slot.

Also, please get an avatar.

Hmm,

paladin

, what is your current read of kwll?

Also, I'm going to be V/LA (Vacation/Limited Access) for a couple days. Sorry, will be a bit busy, but hopefully I'll be able to check in any time I have.

[serrapaladin]

Hmm, paladin, what is your current read of kwll?

His reads in 156 are weak, particularly that on awestfie. In 208 he admits to deliberately aggravating Spawnisen. Blatant contradiction in his read of Declan in 212, first he says no read, then concludes with having a scum feeling. His phrasing "I hope his [Declan's] replacement will do better" also somewhat irritates me. I do think a lot of this has to do with his 'stream of consciousness' style of posting, but my overall is slightly scummy. Nowhere near as much as Declan's slot and his inconsistent reads though. At this point I'd also still prefer a Spawnisen lynch to kwll, but only just.

[Nekoko]

We no lynch day1 with no claims then cop ( if we have one ) investigates someone. The cop then 'outs ' who he investigated if he got a guilty, if not he keeps quiet, we lynch on day 2 and that person claims when we get to l-1 we choose weather to believe them or not depending on their play so far and we lynch again day 3

If there is no cop you wasted 1 lynch for the town. IF there is a cop and he is night killed, then you still wasted 1 lynch for the town.
Also we would still have the same set of suspicious players tomorrow: spawnisen, declan(your slot), kwll

[Nekoko]

Votecount 1.6

Spawnisen - 3 (kwll, awestfie, Bitmap)
awestfie - 0
MP5 - 0
evilpire - 3 (MP5, Bitmap, serrapaladin)
Bitmap - 0
serrapaladin - 0
kwll - 3 (Spawnisen, Nekoko, Ser Arthur Daye)
Nekoko - 0
Ser Arthur Dayne - 0

Not Voting - 0

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch

Bitmap has two votes D:

[Nekoko]

At this point I'd also still prefer a Spawnisen lynch to kwll, but only just.

Wait I thought that you said that spawnisen's wagon is already dying and that you think that spawn is newb town?

[serrapaladin]

I don't think I ever actually gave him a town read. I said something along the lines of "he's moving towards newb town, but is still slightly scummy." Both him and kwll are looking slightly scummy to me, but between them, I'd prefer a Spawnisen lynch, as I judge his overly defensive behavior more anti-town (if perhaps not downright scummy), particularly in later days. That being said, overall I still prefer an evilpire lynch.

[evilpire]

Will post reads at 8 gmt I have also been notified of a wierd bug by an admin so don't expect me post immediately if I am online

Back to the game I was just an idea with the no lynch part, saw it done on another site and town won

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Back to the game I was just an idea with the no lynch part, saw it done on another site and town won

This setup (and MafiaScum's setups in general) dissuade from using the Follow the Cop strategy by having setups that make it disadvantageous to use that strategy.

[evilpire]

Thank you for putting your IC hat on sad am working on reads ATM

[evilpire]

ok here we go:

Spawnisen : acting a bit scummy really I'm not going to delve into the reasons for this as they have been massivly discussed by everyone
awestfie : Has only had 9 posts on thread really just to keep him in the game I think apart from a couple of decent posts, would like to see some reads from him
MP5 Again would like some reads from him as I dont have much to go on at the moment so null
Bitmap null still
serrapaladin have no idea what Declan was doing when he changed his read on you, Declan was a VERY noob town null
kwll (SE) would like FULL reads from you just wanna know what your thinking.
Nekoko (SE) I have a feeling about him, not quite sure what it is though....
Ser Arthur Dayne (IC) sems to be contributing now as whatever his isues were seem to have been sorted, a slight town read for me

there you have it, these will not change unless I have a very important reason

[serrapaladin]

serrapaladin have no idea what Declan was doing when he changed his read on you, Declan was a VERY noob town null

What do you mean by this? What's your read on me?

[Bitmap]

ok here we go:

Spawnisen : acting a bit scummy really I'm not going to delve into the reasons for this as they have been massivly discussed by everyone
awestfie : Has only had 9 posts on thread really just to keep him in the game I think apart from a couple of decent posts, would like to see some reads from him
MP5 Again would like some reads from him as I dont have much to go on at the moment so null
Bitmap null still
serrapaladin have no idea what Declan was doing when he changed his read on you, Declan was a VERY noob town null
kwll (SE) would like FULL reads from you just wanna know what your thinking.
Nekoko (SE) I have a feeling about him, not quite sure what it is though....
Ser Arthur Dayne (IC) sems to be contributing now as whatever his isues were seem to have been sorted, a slight town read for me

there you have it, these will not change unless I have a very important reason

This post is crap. If you're going to make a 'reads' post, you should explain why people are null, town, or scum.

[kwll]

Please get an avatar Evil.

[Bitmap]

Please get an avatar Evil.

Please contribute something.

[Untrod Tripod]

The thread actually needs to be locked for a little bit. More later.

[Untrod Tripod]

the Godfather replaces evilpire

[Untrod Tripod]

just full disclosure, evilpire was force-replaced because the mod/admin team has informed me that he was very likely the same person as Superdeclan.

[serrapaladin]

So declan/evilpire faked a replacement, most likely to avoid a line of questioning. I see very little incentive for him to do that if he's town, but rather that this was the attempt of scum to give himself a clean slate and perhaps avoid an early lynch. Therefore, his slot is likely to be scum. I feel that's enough for a D1 lynch, sorry Godfather.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: the Godfather

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

To be honest, I would be

fully

agreeing with you paladin if it weren't for something that happened in one of my games once. One player (a town one) once asked me if s/he can replace herself with another alt of her (and not out that it is the same player). So, I can

somewhat

see it coming from town who are really under pressure and feel like taking that pressure off.

OTOH, I'm

really

leaning scum, since they didn't inform the mod or anything <_< Will hold my vote off for now and see what others say, but I'm most likely going to move my vote there later.