Newbie 1315: Van Helsing (Over)

[kwll]

BTW SAD

Nice selective posting there. Is that we are handling him well and dont need much IC intervention..?

What are your thoughts on Paladin wanting a lynch this earlier with 8 days left till deadline?

[the Godfather]

Kk i brushed past the second a third page and as paladin( i think thats wat u said) u told me to say 3 people i think r scum... Well from readin the first second and third page so far( i bet alot has changed) i think nekoko and spawnson im sorta jumping on the bandwagon but what eves




My ipods runnin out of batteries so brb

[kwll]

Got to give him credit...He is posting quite a bit.

[the Godfather]

Who is dclan? As u said before somethin bout lumpimg
Evilpire and dclan

[serrapaladin]

Yes kwll, I don't want a policy lynch, but we need judge a slot according to all players that have occupied it.

Godfather

: No one said anything about pointing at three people you think might be scum, I merely asked who you are suspicious of.

Superdeclan and evilpire, who occupied your slot before you did, are the same person. He got force-replaced because this is considered cheating.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Who is dclan? As u said before somethin bout lumpimg
Evilpire and dclan

How did you read the first 3 pages and not know who he is?

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

What are your thoughts on Paladin wanting a lynch this earlier with 8 days left till deadline?

To be FULLY honest, if this wasn't a newbie game and I wasn't an IC (who should be attempting to show that we shouldn't hammer everyone right away, etc), I would've hammered a long time ago...

[the Godfather]

Btw The mod For this didmt put up a message in the que i did. I said "in for newb" and he messaged me so... If i were evilpires "created acc" then it would be very difficult for me to get this place. Yup i think thats all i wana say

[the Godfather]

When i said i skimmed thru page 1,2,3 i pretty much only looked at the bold votes and there reasons

[the Godfather]

I dont read that fast

[serrapaladin]

Don't worry, we don't believe you're the same person as evilpire. Evilpire was, however, the same person as Superdeclan, which is why he got force-replaced by you. You now have his slot, which means you got the same Role he had. Thus, everything we found scummy about his slot still applies to you. That's the luck of the draw and a good reason for not letting newbies replace into games. I apologized to you in my first post after the replacement for that reason.

[kwll]

I am thinking the same thoughts as town...I was outside smoking a cig and thinking on this...You have only one person somewhat on your side...and millions of reasons on why we should not end this day today. This is a newbie game so I am doing my best to be impartial with the SE hat...I use it to show when I am attempting to give help to a newbie.

I am not honestly not liking the fact that your story isnt adding up. I have listed in a previous post asking which on which answer you were lying about.

As SAD said, how did you read through those pages seeing bolded votes and not notice dclan. Hell Paladin didnt like his ass and voted for him and If I remember right FOS him.

....Paladin
I agree with judging all players since the slot doesnt change. GF is not helping matters at all despite the amount of aid he is getting.

[kwll]

I should of previewed that post....
First paragrapth is at SAD

Second one is at GF

third is just me talking

I managed to label the 4th

[the Godfather]

i sorta stopped mid way thru the thrid page if that matters. also when u said everything scummy still applies to me can u list some things? i believe i must sound like im trying to be defencive and move the spotlight on to u but im just curious

[the Godfather]

as u said before one player is helping me, who is it?

[kwll]

Look, get to fucking reading the thread.....I said I am trying to be impartial as an SE but I am still a player.
READ THE THREAD its only 10 pages since you came in. first 2 or so are RVS and confirms...so thats 8 pages.....GET TO IT.

if you post one more time without reading the DAMN THREAD I am going to advocate your lynch HARD....

[the Godfather]

also if i were declineclan why wouldd i be interested in this game? since someone took my place, does that mean i eould make fake accounts to get a pm from the mod of this game? i dont know i might not be getting it but it doesnt add up for me ether

[the Godfather]

kk i just read ur message so dont lynch me yet im doin it now

[the Godfather]

evil pire why r u browserin the forum?

[serrapaladin]

Spoiler: Reasons I voted Declan:

I'm finally back at a computer, so shouldn't be misplacing too many apostrophes anymore. I hate touchscreens...

This and my next post will go over Declan and Spawnisen and hopefully conclude with my opinion on who seems more scummy at the moment.

Let me start with

Declan:

ok,read the posts

Spawnisen

is being really defensive, possibly a scumtell as I will show with the quotes below

You're reading too much into my answers right now.

I'm just confusing you all

vote:nekoko for being the first one to start stacking up votes on one person (Yes I'm aware that makes me the second guy...)

seems a bit wierd in my opinion

[...]

Based on what I've shown you I shall VOTE: Spawnisen

This just reiterates some of the points Nekoko, awestfie, I, and probably others made earlier. You call Spawnisen's comments defensive and a bit weird, without giving true analysis, yet seem eager to stick a vote on him. If you really wanted to help town, you would help to get useful information out of Spawnisen, rather than just pushing him one vote closer to a lynch. That being said,

Declan,

do you have any questions for Spawnisen that could help us determine his alignment?

Ok, ,here's my reads I played some epic mafia games so I've got an idea

spawn: leaning scum My reasons are in my last post
Kwll: null, leaning town just a gut feeling, He's also been quite active
Awestfie not sure slightly town
Mp5 null
Falcon not a clue
Serapaldin Lening town
Arthur null
Nekoko null

most of my reads are just instinctive, I told you before I hadnt noticed it started and I would have raised those points earlier if I had seen, I called SAD Arthur and that was null.
null really means i dont know, my bigest town read was kwll but it's not huge and

besides it is my first game on forum mafia so my reads are not going to be 100% accurate

serrapaldin is now slight scum because we are now out of RVS and his vote is still on me

Your sheeping Nekoko (for a second time) onto me for voting you to get an avatar is suspicious, but the way you later switch reasons and cite my inactivity instead (post 95, see below) is downright scummy. Why did you,

Declan,

really change your read on me from town to scum? Was it Nekoko's post, my inactivity, or something completely different? If it was Nekoko's post, why change your reason in your answer to MP5's post 89? If it was my inactivity, why first claim it was my vote on you?

Also, the two parts in bold from the two posts above are inconsistent, to say the least. It seems as though you were trying to prepare yourself a way out, for when your reads turn out wrong, which you would only be concerned about if you knew something you couldn't as town. As town, your reads are per definition accurate (if not necessarily correlated with someone's alignment) - they are the way you perceive someone's behavior. Only scum has a reason to deliberately alter their reads.

my internet was wonky yesterday, enough for a small post but not a large one

we have very little info on day 1 so all I can really do is nitpick

. I still belive spawnsien is leaning scum a bit, more than anyone else

The reason my read changed on serrapaldin was that he had not put in any content in the space of a day but you have had more content posts, still not sure though.

kwll was online yesterday but didnt post anything, he might have had internet troubles or something else @ kwll why didnt you post anything yesterday? also your posts have been very short, is it because

I am not a very good writer

or is it lurking? I also want to know your reads

I really have no idea why I put a town read on kwll and then said that it was my biggest something must have gone wrong with my brain 2 days in a row.

not quite a scum read yet but I want content today or tomorrow.

The very fact i said leming town means that I wasnt thinking straight.

everyone else has been totally null really, with only slight swings.

The only information you'll ever have is how and what people post under which circumstances, and as what people flip. Everyone having posted a few times means you can comment on the way you feel about their posts, or ask for more answers. You calling that nitpicking seems as though you indirectly want to discredit not only your's, but everyone's reads so far. The "something must have gone wrong with my brain" excuse, sounds a lot to me like this f2f one: "I guess I'm just getting a bit drunk," which is a classic scumtell in my book. Amending your old opinions in the light of new evidence/analysis is fine (even to be encouraged), but not giving reasons for your reads to begin with and then 'ad hominem' attacking yourself to invalidate them doesn't look good at all.

it was very slight both ways and i can assure you that I'll bee feeling better tommorow when i return to school

To go from kwll and me being your only town-reads to us both getting scumreads from you doesn't seem 'slight' at all. It's quite a severe shift and, what is more, quite systematic.

I haven't seen much positive from you in the way of analysis and all the above makes me quite suspicious. You also get a

FoS: Declan.

My analysis on Spawnisen is next; later tonight or tomorrow, depending how I feel.

Then, his blatant cheating was horribly scummy.

kwll:

What do you mean by "thinking the same thoughts as town"? If you agree that Godfather's slot isn't looking very good, why are you questioning me for wanting to policy lynch and accusing SAD of wanting to lynch prematurely?

GF: We get it, you aren't Declan, but your slot was his, so you're still scummy...

[the Godfather]

kk i understand where ur comin from (im on page 7 just came to check out and make sure im not dead yet) ima continue readin brb

[kwll]

I am sorry if I am unclear.

that post had the right heart but not clear.

I posted while highly frustrated.

I am against Policy lynch since they serve no one. In a game this small they really dont help us...they work as well as a No lynch does...no good.

I am war with 2 sides. My SE side which means he is a newb needing help a guidence and we should give him a chance to explain himself, since we still have 8 days remaining. That is the SE side.

Player side.
I do find his slot horrid. I am little pissed he just posted without reading my promise of wanting his damn lynch if he doesnt read the the thread. I want his lynch and I am having trouble trying to want to help him and more just wanting to lynch him.

GF you need to really read the thread. Stop asking questions about what we are discussing about you since you need to READ the thread to understand. Also reading the thread will help you form reads.

p.s.
Still fucking frustrated

[serrapaladin]

I too am against policy lynching but I don't see this as a policy lynch. At all.

[kwll]

Perhaps it was my frustraion speaking.

I see where you are coming from now that you posted your slot reasons...I was just getting nervous we might jump the gun and lynch him for the way he is acting...but I hope he is coming around.

sorry for my mistake Paladin

[the Godfather]

sorry bout that never really understood, well now i read it. Kinda sad my replacement came with a horrbile place but i hope to get better for my second game... Also should i be voting someone? im the only one who isnt could someone please give (if possible) an analisise on every1 including me. tyvm