Newbie 1310: A WILD CHARIZARD APPEARED! - GAME OVER

[TheTrollie]

again, anger and insults in place of rational discussion. You should really learn not to take the game so seriously.

you talkin' ta me?

[Om]

@Smash:

Because Dry has habit of quick hammering, I've feeling that he wont hesitate to quick hammer himself (more so if he is a scum) if you also jump on Dry wagon, which you've shown intent to do so btw.

Any sane person wont want that when we are basically in win or loss position.

[Smashbard]

again, anger and insults in place of rational discussion. You should really learn not to take the game so seriously.

I'd rather take the game seriously and try to find scum than play like yourself and go "Derp Derp, I'm gonna quickhammer all the time and then get all offended when people call me scummy for it and don't want to hear what I have to say, Herp Derp".

[Smashbard]

If you don't answer that question I'm parking my God Damned vote on you until end game or until you answer it.

ur not even voting Om right now.

gotcha,
there you go
lynch dyr today
Smash tomorrow
win games

It's called a threat, hence why I said if he DIDN'T answer my questions I'm parking my vote on him.

Reading is tech.

[TheTrollie]

O.M.G.

we have four people active right now.

it takes 4 to lynch.

Dyr is so hammer happy he'll probably fucking hammer himself.

LET'S END THIS ALREADY

[Om]

If you don't answer that question I'm parking my God Damned vote on you until end game or until you answer it.

ur not even voting Om right now.

gotcha,
there you go
lynch dyr today
Smash tomorrow
win games

It's called a threat, hence why I said if he DIDN'T answer my questions I'm parking my vote on him.

Reading is tech.

Which questions are you on about? I only saw once I answered o-o

@Trollie, No, I'm not voting Dry before I get Em and Myko to post.

[TheTrollie]

Dyr actively and outwardly said he doesnt care about the game and intends to reak havoc.

I am happier with the odds of lynching him, probably being done there, but at worse case scenario, we hope dr.s save us tonight and then we r in lylo without dyr.

There is an alternative, since we are in Mylo (kinda) we can no-lynch, but i think thats stupid since either I or Om are gonna be the NK and that leaves us nowhere tomorrow

[mykonian]

If ur trying to say that CF investigated Dyr N1 im pretty sure ur wrong. I only looked briefly but CF was not very strong-willed on his scumread of dyr.

i already told u why nacho, and stfu u were just as into a nacho lynch as I was...

actually, I call bullshit, what the fuck myko, ur gonna blame the Nacho mislynch on me, when YOU supported that lynch.

Bull. Shit.

I started the day out on nacho and through the day leaned more and more towards a smashbard lynch. I was invited to join on nacho and those were my words then as well.

And I'm just gone for a blink and you lynched him.

And I'm going to blame whoever I want who goes voting straight away in mylo. Cop flips, first thing you do is look for crumbs.

O.M.G.

we have four people active right now.

it takes 4 to lynch.

Dyr is so hammer happy he'll probably fucking hammer himself.

LET'S END THIS ALREADY

We need two lynches.

You only one.

Scumslip deluxe.

[mykonian]

ok, mylo. First things first: doc or JK claims, claims who he protected/blocked day 1.

Second thing, we are going to count stuff. And counting isn't so hard, but lets wait for the claim first. After that we are going to figure out who to lynch.

[Dyrynify]

nope. Talking to Smash. Your insulting behavior is pathetic. There is a big difference between taking the game seriously, and being an insulting prick. Get over yourself. IT IS A FUCKING FORUM GAME, NOT THE U.N. From this point on, rage all you like, but I won't be responding to any post of yours, and will drop any game you are in that I join. I refuse to game with you or your ilk. I have much better things to do.

I wont hammer myself; I detest suicide as the cowards way out. I dug this grave, but someone else gets to put me in it.

[Om]

ok, mylo. First things first: doc or JK claims, claims who he protected/blocked day 1.

Second thing, we are going to count stuff. And counting isn't so hard, but lets wait for the claim first. After that we are going to figure out who to lynch.

^ This.

[TheTrollie]

myko, i meant end the day.

but fine, fine....

UNVOTE: dyr

I forgot about the no-kill day 1

@mod can PRs target themselves?

[TheTrollie]

nope. Talking to Smash. Your insulting behavior is pathetic. There is a big difference between taking the game seriously, and being an insulting prick. Get over yourself. IT IS A FUCKING FORUM GAME, NOT THE U.N. From this point on, rage all you like, but I won't be responding to any post of yours, and will drop any game you are in that I join. I refuse to game with you or your ilk. I have much better things to do.

I wont hammer myself; I detest suicide as the cowards way out. I dug this grave, but someone else gets to put me in it.

vry gud, nice playing with ya

[Smashbard]

nope. Talking to Smash. Your insulting behavior is pathetic. There is a big difference between taking the game seriously, and being an insulting prick. Get over yourself. IT IS A FUCKING FORUM GAME, NOT THE U.N. From this point on, rage all you like, but I won't be responding to any post of yours, and will drop any game you are in that I join. I refuse to game with you or your ilk. I have much better things to do.

I wont hammer myself; I detest suicide as the cowards way out. I dug this grave, but someone else gets to put me in it.

I'd rather not play mafia with someone who would rather ruin the spirit of the game lurking all day and then quickhammering the second anyone gets to L-1 and expect people to NOT be upset with him.

That's all I'm saying left in the matter.

I'm glad somebody else beyond myself is finally seeing TheTrollie as scummy. Maybe not for the reasons I've pointed out, but at least somebody is still thinking rather than just going "Choo Choo! On with the Dyr/Smashbard lynches, no other discussion required! Choo!"

[Smashbard]

myko, i meant end the day.

but fine, fine....

UNVOTE: dyr

I forgot about the no-kill day 1

@mod can PRs target themselves?

On Page 1 the example PM Roles specifically state for the Doc and Jailkeeper that they cannot target themselves.

[Om]

So bard, who is Trolli's partner according to you if Dry is town?

[TheTrollie]

who hasn't checked in yet? just EMP?

[Om]

Yeah. I think she holds the key to this.

[Smashbard]

What good would it do for the Doctor/Jailkeeper to claim? To give Mafia a clear ticket as to who they should kill tonight?

Best case scenario we have a Jailkeeper that can state who they intend to Target, so that way if a Kill goes through then we have at least one 100% confirmed townie after the Jailkeeper dies. Or if a kill doesn't go through it might be as good as a Cop Guilty result.

But when I was scum in that newbie game with Nacho I pulled a gambit where we had a claimed Jailkeeper and he announced each target he would protect and I chose to No Kill during the night phases in order to frame people into mislynches rather than pulling the trigger on the Jailkeeper until I was sure I could win in Lylo.

So even that wouldn't be ideal. I know it's farfetched but I literally won that game as scum due to that gambit. It could easily happen.

I can't see any good scenarios in which a Doctor should claim because then they just die tonight and we get no information based on who they protected because the Mafia would officially no longer have to sweat a Kill going through.

How about we collectively suggest who the Doc/Jailkeeper SHOULD target? I'm pretty sure it's universally agreed that Mykonian is town. That way if the Doc/JK follows those instructions (I'm assuming Mykonian is not it because he's the one calling for a claim rather than just claiming himself) then we can be sure that Mykonian stays alive and the scum still won't know who the Doc/JK is, so they have to make a shot in the dark that is not Mykonian to try and find the Doc/JK.

Of course, if Mykonian is scum I think we're just fucked in general because he's not getting lynched this game. Dyrnify, TheTrollie and myself will be dead before Mykonian is considered.

[TheTrollie]

What good would it do for the Doctor/Jailkeeper to claim? To give Mafia a clear ticket as to who they should kill tonight?

it confirms 2 town

[Smashbard]

So bard, who is Trolli's partner according to you if Dry is town?

I'm not considering Dyrnify as town because like I said, you have to be 100% sure who the scum are at this point. I can't afford to let you or anybody else muddy up my reads with uncertainty by considering that anybody else could be scum beyond TheTrollie/Dyrnify.

If we mislynch, I'm fully convinced we lose. I'm not counting on a 25% chance that the Doctor/Jailkeeper will call it right and give us another day phase.

If I HAD to choose based on a wildly improbable scenario that there's a mislynch AND the Doc/JK survives AND makes the right choice for protection, I would say you. Your and TheTrollies pressuring of me to vote for Dyrnify on the ridiculous off chance that Dyrnify will self hammer and end the day phase and possibly the game without waiting for input from Mykonian and Emp Dear was extremely scummy to me.

I know you were apparently trying some crazy last minute "feign voting". But the only way that strategy makes sense to me is if you somehow know Dyrnify is not scum and were trying to trap scum into voting for him thinking they could get away with a quick lynch.

Do you actually believe Dyrnify is scum or are you using him as lynch bait to try and fish out who you REALLY feel are scum?

[Smashbard]

What good would it do for the Doctor/Jailkeeper to claim? To give Mafia a clear ticket as to who they should kill tonight?

it confirms 2 town

I think I get it...

If it's a Doctor claim, then whoever they protected Night 1 obviously was targeted by the Mafia and is instantly town.

The only flaw I see in this is that if it's a Jailkeeper claim, the protection could of just as easily just targeted Mafia and prevented a kill that way. But that could tell us also who to lynch...but it's still a shot in the dark, because the Jailkeeper could of just protected a Vanilla Townie...

Aha!

Doc/JK claims. Claims who they targeted Night 1. Two confirmed townies. We No Lynch today, lose the protector role but still get another day phase with a confirmed townie, possibly two if the Doc/JK announces who they protect tonight? Is that what's going on?

[Smashbard]

But what if they protected CF Riot Night 1? Then we basically gain no information at all, besides who's dying tonight. Because the power role just outed themselves for nothing...

[Om]

I believe that there are 2 scums in lot of Dry, you and Trollie with Trollie having least chance of being one depending on what Dry flips.
Also, my vote gambit says Trollie is likely not scum, how he was not conscious enough to see weather my vote was valid or not is town tell. That's more likely to come from town then scum who usually will look for mislynch in this stage and are very very self conscious and exited in win or loss situations. I still need Dry's flip to consider your case on him and all I know is who my town reads are, so yeah, by PoE; you and Dry are up for ride unless something drastic happens.

[TheTrollie]

Doc/JK claims. Claims who they targeted Night 1. Two confirmed townies. We No Lynch today, lose the protector role but still get another day phase with a confirmed townie, possibly two if the Doc/JK announces who they protect tonight? Is that what's going on?

why would we want this?