Meta Playstyle Mafia(Game Over, Town Wins!)

[Maestro]

Cool. No rush when we have claimed non-Town vs. fumbling "confScum" wagon.

[Maenara]

JacobSavage is replacing SoraAdvent. He will receive a unique role to his own playstyle, he will not have SoraAdvents role.

Wait. Wait. What the hell.

You're changing roles. During the game. How is this not bastard?

Was this also in the rules? Man, I need to read those again.

[MonkeyMan576]

This is meta playstyle mafia. It wouldn't make sense to give someone someone else's role. As long as the game stays balanced it's not going to have any negative effect on the game. It was not specifically in the rules, but the rules say I have ultimate say in what happens during the game.

Update: The rules have been edited to reflect this policy.

[Maenara]

What, then, if someone replaces out after they've used a PR ability? Then we'll never be able to account for that. Or if they're not changed, then, we'll know that they have a PR which has been used? This just doesn't work.

Of course it has an influence on gameplay! You can't just change everything during the course of gameplay; that ruins our ability to do

anything

!

If you mind the flavour, then just have his role be "SoraAdvent, Third Party Replacer" or whatever the previous role was!

[MonkeyMan576]

If a power role is used, I will advise the replacement of what power roles are used, just as a normal game. There is nothing unbalanced about this, and if you can't respect my decision then feel free to replace out.

[Maestro]

What, then, if someone replaces out after they've used a PR ability? Then we'll never be able to account for that. Or if they're not changed, then, we'll know that they have a PR which has been used? This just doesn't work.

Of course it has an influence on gameplay! You can't just change everything during the course of gameplay; that ruins our ability to do

anything

!

If you mind the flavour, then just have his role be "SoraAdvent, Third Party Replacer" or whatever the previous role was!

TBF, Maenara, I agree with you completely.
But I think it's either an issue for endgame discussion or one that should've been addressed pre-game.

[Maestro]

In other words, at this point, what's done is done. Let's move on.
It didn't look like Sora did much of ANYTHING before now in the game so I don't see a problem in this case.

[Nachomamma8]

Well there went my Godfather status in this game.

Nacho is still scum. Nobody claims for somebody else as town.

except for when it confirms you as town

Hi all. I think I've played with just under half of you before so that's quite good. Been reading along, so have a couple of thoughts.

did you get your role?

Monkey, does his alignment have the potential of changing?

[MonkeyMan576]

Okay, your point is taken. I should have mentioned this pre-game. I was just trying to make things fun and interesting. So I will go ahead and give Jacob SoraAdvent's role.

[Maestro]

I don't see a problem in this case.

Didn't mean to cause issues. (The alignment-change would be bad, though.)

[Venmar]

this sucks

Trollie's wall was more like the town trollie that I know and love.

- Don't discredit me, unless you say why, my post didn't suck because it was true.

@Everything - This is a whole pile of wut right now. Nacho still isn't town because his claim only makes Chk townier.. and doesn't give us much of a reason to drop from his wagon, with the exception that now we don't have that "cop guilty" or "watcher guilty" possibility from Chkflip that would nail Nacho right on the bat.

Since the nacho lynch isn't as 100% anymore, and no offense Chkflip, I would like to lynch Bitmap first not only to 100% guarantee OmNom a role, but also since I've never had success in leashing non-town players, it rarely ends well in a lot of situations.

Vote: Bitmap

[Nachomamma8]

hey venmar i had a question for you
don't ignore it

[Venmar]

I didn't mean to ignore it >.>, i just missed it.

but I am also suspicious of Nacho for his investigation proposals last day

no, this is why mattp is suspicious of me
why do you think my investigation proposals were scummy?

- Because you were suggesting obvious scum investigations. They were a complete waste in the first place, and Mehdi refusing to do a Trollie investigation was purely her trying to appear more town because she knew MattP would eat her alive for it. Not to mention she was also largely influenced by the Toog claim, which also would've looked bad for her and that wasn't what she wanted.

[JacobSavage]

JacobSavage is replacing SoraAdvent. He will receive a unique role to his own playstyle, he will not have SoraAdvents role.

Wait. Wait. What the hell.

You're changing roles. During the game. How is this not bastard?

Was this also in the rules? Man, I need to read those again.

Gives Maenara death glares....

[Nachomamma8]

- Because you were suggesting obvious scum investigations. They were a complete waste in the first place,

keep explaining please

[Venmar]

WE WOULDN'T LEARN SHIT FROM THEM, HOW HARD IS IT TO FKIN UNDERSTAND NACHO?!?!?

[Nachomamma8]

now
what would a guilty investigation on Sora tell us?
what would an innocent investigation tell us?

[Nachomamma8]

jacob what was the first role you were sent?

[Bitmap]

Hey Nacho, tell scum qt I said hi.

[Venmar]

now
what would a guilty investigation on Sora tell us?
what would an innocent investigation tell us?

Wut.... NOTHING, WHY ARE YOU ASKING ME SUCH RETARDED QUESTION

[Nachomamma8]

now
what would a guilty investigation on Sora tell us?
what would an innocent investigation tell us?

Wut.... NOTHING, WHY ARE YOU ASKING ME SUCH RETARDED QUESTION

WAIT WAIT
NOW SWAP OUT THOSE NAMES FOR LITERALLY ANYONE
NOW EXPLAIN

[Nachomamma8]

Hey Nacho, tell scum qt I said hi.

tell the dead qt i said hi too!

[Bitmap]

Hey Nacho, tell scum qt I said hi.

tell the dead qt i said hi too!

Got it.

VOTE: Bitmap

[JacobSavage]

I was a town spy. At the end of each night I would have gotten a random sentence from the Scum QT

[Toogeloo]

I'd like to know why the assumption is that because Jacob got a role tailored to him it's all of a sudden different than Sora's role.

Suppose Sora's role was "Protective Guardian" and it was a Doctor Role because he was constantly standing up for weaker players. And then say Jacob's role was "Interferer" and it also was a Doctor Role because he's constantly trolling and interfering with game flow. The roles are essentially the same, but each would be tailored to the player instead of some generic Doctor blah-de-blah role.

Why the assumption that Sora went from something like Cop to Jacob going to something like Vigilante? Roles could have already been made before Monkey even researched us, and then he just tailored the flavor to match our meta.

Not saying this is how it is, but seems a little bit over the top to immediately assume the game is bastard without knowing what both Sora's role was and what Jacob's role is now. Hold off on lynching the host until you know what's going on, and don't just assume the worst.


Obviously, my confidence in the Nacho wagon happening at this point is low, so the best play is to just take care of Bitmap since we know he is anti-town. Also, Monkey replied to my inquiry of whether or not I get killed if targeted for death, and he said the effect still happens despite the "instead" qualifier. So feel free to kill me scummers.

Vote: Bitmap