The Wire, Season 1 - Final Credits!

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I can dig Shadoweh being one 'em undies. She talking like she on of 'em too.

[Baby Spice]

Got some time at an actual computer.

Could even look up The Wire on wikipedia because I'd never heard of it before.

Petapan's vote drew my attention to absta's #8, which is more likely to be a scum post than a detached vote for nobody in particular.

Why? Ok, answered later.

To me the detached no comment votes are worse as there's nothing attached to them. Nothing to read.
People do occasionally let things slip in their opening post and those first few votes all look like people are trying not to slip.

Yea but there is not one white person in the Barksdale crew from memory. So anyone claiming a white guy would be not town.

Nice work giving it away. Would you give away the stash house location that easily?

Your point? A couple of minutes on Wikipedia covers all that.

Nah scum probably have fakeclaims

You played in

m

any games with safe claims?

I'm liking the SAD rp. It's amusing that he sounds like my 20 yr old white Australian step-son who thinks he's from the hood.

CDB seems to be making waffling points that are hard to understand. But they seems to be good ones, once translated.

This game goes at a glacier pace for me

Why?

I'm sure I've seen comment on it while reading the game on the phone, but man #79 by Shodoweh sucks. The town list presented, or more specifically the reasons on it, are just rubbish. The last para is disjointed as hell.

More like anyone claiming a white guy would be a miller without knowing it since - you know this conversation is terrible and makes me feel skeevey.
Arthur what do you think of Benny's idea that absta made a scummy post?

As does this one. Why raise Millers? Why raise bastardry? (hidden Miller) Why start the comment then deflect it half made? Hell even the question to SAD feels like it's deflection.


Cerulean, makes some good points in #99 too.

Unvote Jason
vote Shadoweh

Fos Vifam[

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

How the hell do you have a town read on BabySpice?
-Explanation please.

She actin' all gansta like and all, but it be coming down from the heart, ya feel me? Shit don't feel fake. Think one of 'em undies wouldn't attack someone like Vifam right away, y'know? People don't fake that shit. If it be comin' to someone, it be comin' from the HEART. Don't know much, but to a man like me it reads much more naive about Mr. Poppin' rather than someone tryin' to make some shit up.

[sottyrulez]

How the hell do you have a town read on BabySpice?
-Explanation please.

This.

I find post 125 pretty scummy. Just the support of both of the underwhelming Nostredeus and Shadow wagons is all kinds of blegh.

I could also be swayed into safety dance, who is currently pinging as our second scum read.

~Sotty.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I'm liking the SAD rp. It's amusing that he sounds like my 20 yr old white Australian step-son who thinks he's from the hood.

._. Only difference is I really do live around "the hood".

[The Baltimore Sun]

Day 1, Votecount 9

TheGreatestAmericanHero (1) - sottyrulez

Shadoweh (4) - Cerulean, The Mini-Librarian, Nostredeus, Baby Spice

Ser Arthur Dayne (2) - jasonT1981, SafetyDance
JastonT1981 (1) - Ser Arthur Dayne
Nostredeus (3) - Vifam, TheGreatestAmericanHero, McStab
Plessiezarus (1) - Benmage
SafetyDance (1) - ChannelDelibird
DeasVail (1) - petapan
McStab (1) - DeasVail
Plessiezarus (1) - camn
The Mini-Librarian (1) - Shadoweh

Not voting (2):

Plessizarus, absta101

• With 19 alive it takes 10 to lynch.
  
• Deadline is on 6th of February at 5:30pm GMAT
  
• Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2013-02-06 13:30:28)

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

vifam delivering one liners isn't relevant to his alignment that's just how he posts also he's p clearly posting content so ur dum imho

Calling someone dumb only works if you can actually use correct grammar, punctuation and spelling and not with the result that you make yourself look dumb in the process.

Niqqas be crazy though, you know that, though you wildin' out buz.

[Cerulean]

I just got back and I'm exhausted so you're just getting another super drive-by post from me tonight.

The gist of what I said is still the same though. I said he was doing nothing but rp complaining. All I've done in that post is explained it better. I'd also rather talk about if you agree with those reasons then continue to talk about me, as subject which doesn't interest me.

Eh, I disagree, I think Benmage is townish, largely due to the meta reasons I alluded to earlier and I'll expand on that more when I'm not literally about to collapse on my keyboard.

Also, I've skimmed through some of your meta and I've learned things.

Unvote, vote: Jason

[camn]

Shadow- I'm town. And I don't know if you know my game or not.... but my posts are rarely >useless<. If you don't see why I am doing something, look harder. Or ask. I might tell you.

[Cerulean]

Cerulean- Encouraging us out of the RVS. Randomly naming names is the worst kind of first page. But- no longer relevant.
And- why not just post as the hydra? This talk about your internal discussion with the other head.... it confuses me.

So, I followed along on my phone earlier today at work, and was all ready to ask you about how you thought giving Shadoweh a toothless vote in Post 21 was in any way shape or form encouraging us out of rvs, and was going to vote you because I thought you were scum. BUT then you went and made Post 196 and voted Pless, which I think is a productive place for a vote right now. (Think Jason's a better place for a vote, but Pless is good too) and you just let the wind right out of my condescending sails. Hurm.

What do you mean by a hydra post? Do you mean like empire and I sit down and formulate posts together? That's not going to happen. We should be one of the least confusing hydras you could come in contact with short of people writing formulated posts. We're both super easy to read (apparently rofl gave the easy award to empire though), work well together and read people in a somewhat similar way

or empire smacks me around a little until i agree with him

. I'm not really following the confusion; we're going to reference each other but we shouldn't be hard to follow. (If you think we're confusing, you should have seen Dayne and me as a hydra)

I do like your vote on Pless though, but not necessarily for why you voted them. Majiffy and Thor were lynched for a similar thing in rarefaction and came back innocent. I also know that Zar is rather busy and was tied up modding a game at another site, and their discussion over whether or not I was town and what post Zar was townreading me on felt kinda real (not sure of this at all) but I do know that sometimes Pless is more active than Zar. What I do think is your major point is that Pless has pretty much no content whatsoever, and his statement that there wasn't anything interesting happening doesn't make any sense. His coming in and commenting on the massclaim was a throwaway, and I'm much more used to Pless getting involved even if nothing interesting is happening. He should be poking at people and at least asking some questions to make something interesting happen or to try to get reads on people. But he's not. I'm still reserving judgment on this though and think that once they actually start participating I'll be able to get a better read on them.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Jason is where the shit is at. Get with the program.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

(If you think we're confusing, you should have seen Dayne and me as a hydra)

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Wow there are too many wall-y people on that list. All of ya should get together like once a week and summarize what you all said or something, cuz some of us here don't like too many words, ya feel me?

[Cerulean]

Quick pre-work post

Yes because obviously Benmage is the easiest person to attack here, well known for getting frivolously quicklynched on the first day. His posts are throwaway comments on mod flavoring and rp complaining. If you were to actually read him you would realize he only has two questions, which he concludes with 'I don't know'. He's still on his McStab first bvote. I think it's really passive, especially for someone who I've always seen pride himself for throwing himself into the game, taking charge and outright having to tell people he wasn't going to be super active in a game.

Ok when you lay out all of those reasons, I can see where you're coming from on that vote. My issue now is this: why didn't you mention all of that when you put down the vote and just voted him on the RP complaining? The way it came across to me at the time was like you were cherry picking just one aspect of his play and attacking him on that. Also, my impression of Benmage's meta is very different but I'd rather talk about this later.

The gist of what I said is still the same though. I said he was doing nothing but rp complaining. All I've done in that post is explained it better. I'd also rather talk about if you agree with those reasons then continue to talk about me, as subject which doesn't interest me.

I don't think the tells that you've referenced on benmage are all that meaningful. Benmage is empire's strongest townread at the moment, and I agree that he looks like town, but benmage himself has warned me about giving him a town read too early based on his belief that his scum game is flawless. So, I actually don't agree with your reasons because I think as scum he'd probably take a different route and he's actually behaving how I've seen him behave as town. (I've only seen him as scum once but he was dead before I replaced into the game so I don't count that for knowing his scum meta.)

You as a subject does/did interest me though because getting a handle on you would make my life easier.

Why do you always flirt with my other heads? As far as me being able to read you though, I've been pretty wrong before and read you as strong town when you were scum in ADwD. Other head thought your reads seemed shallow. I don't mind that kind of thing in first posts, especially considering that I'm a bit of a slow starter and have shallow early reads. I didn't see the point of the vote on Benmage as being a serious vote since it seemed mostly because you're annoyed that he's annoyed with rp. And the griping seemed a little over the top as I couldn't tell if you were actually annoyed or trying to fake town annoyance. The other thing that bothered me was the question posed to Arthur in Post 86 as it felt off. You've never really respected Arthur's opinion before and have expressed irritation with him, so appealing to him seemed fishy.

Because they are coming between us. I figure that having seen how I both flail as town and pretend to be really adorable as scum you would have to be able to see the difference by now. If I were just annoyed with annoyance I would have yelled at Benmage instead of voting him. As for Arthur, I appreciate people who get into character. Maybe I like him better as a crack addict. When it comes to canvassing for support I'm not picky as long as they vote for my scum.

<3 I do feel like I'm getting better at reading you, but there were those couple things that struck me as off. I've thought your comments and reactions read townie today and my meta king other head skimmed a couple of your games and has also come around to that. I feel like I read you pretty confidently as town in mafiastuck but you can't begrudge me being a bit extra careful after adwd. (Though I do feel like I especially can read you once the game has gone on a couple days though)

[Cerulean]

(If you think we're confusing, you should have seen Dayne and me as a hydra)

Thought you'd find that amusing.

Wow there are too many wall-y people on that list. All of ya should get together like once a week and summarize what you all said or something, cuz some of us here don't like too many words, ya feel me?

Yo.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Wow there are too many wall-y people on that list. All of ya should get together like once a week and summarize what you all said or something, cuz some of us here don't like too many words, ya feel me?

Yo.

Yo. Keep it real buzzy. And stay on Jason. That's where the shit is at. And get those other word-lovers to come this way. Promise 'em dope or somethin'.

[Cerulean]

Commenting that SAD and Cerulean are townie is a waste of time here, more talk about people that can actually be scum.

hang on, what? when is it ever a waste of time to comment on townreads?

Actually that read fairly townish from Shadow.... Cerul does ready pretty obvious town, and I wager my best town read thus far (although that's just from my shitty reading at work).

The point Shadow was making is we don't need everyone putting in the facade of 'reading' people by naming Cerulean town.

no, it sounds like he really doesn't want anyone to become a universal townread. you know who doesn't like a lot of universal townreads running around? scum. if everyone thinks cerulean is town then everyone should say they think cerulean is town.

This is a bit of a stretch. Scum don't need people to point out who the universal town reads are, they can tell quite readily from reading the thread even without the town map. And I really doubt shadoweh!scum would care that people were giving town reads for that purpose.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

DeasVail seems like one of those players who are always fake no matter what

Sometimes I'm not.

I admit that I feel I'm kind of forcing it here, but when I actually have a proper scumread I'll get back to you.

Homeboy, I'm waitin' on 'em townreads from you. How long it take to make things up?

[Cerulean]

People stating opinions is a good thing. It ties them to those opinions for later.

qft

I'm not trying to stifle reads... And if you want to mention cerul as a town read go nuts... But time could be better spent analyzing the null reads. Thats my point at least.

Cerul has read town, like I said before. Does that mean ignore him, no.

Yes, please don't ignore us. I mean I don't mind, but empire has a fragile ego

[Cerulean]

Nostredeus is scum. Brings up a bad idea WITH an implicit suggestion, that scum would have minor roles. This reads to me like scum who has a fakeclaim that isn't minor, thereby trying to divert suspicion from himself. Then he gives up the idea at the slightest pressure.

Vote: Nost

Also those attacking Ser Arthur Dayne really ought to question themselves as to how after seven pages of content the main scumread they have is on someone for talking in character, who obviously loves The Wire (any true fan of the Wire frequently quotes it and would be excitable about it).

That being said, I don't get a scumvibe from Benmage. I DO get a scumvibe from SafetyDance; but Nost is scummier.

Also GreatAmericanHero got townier since last time I posted.

I'm of two minds with this post. On the one hand I think your push on nost is reaching because he reads fairly townish in his response, and really what would your opinion of him been if he had clung to the not wise thing of mass name claiming?

BUT I like that you find safetydance scummy because he's a scum read of ours too. Although that could be one of those things where you make sure to point out the scumminess of your partner, but not vote him, so you can be seen as suspecting him.

So, I'm spin cycling where you're concerned.

[Cerulean]

Good lynches:
Nost
Camm
Petapan

Okay, this goes

why
why
And bitch please, explain yourself

[camn]

/NOT GAME RELATED @Cerulean

The hydra thing bothers me, especially when there are so many of you, because you say things like: "Benmage is empire's strongest townread at the moment".. and for a second.. or sometimes longer than a second.. I think.. who the f is that? empire? Then I think, Jesus, f-ing Large Themes.. I can hardly keep track of the players... then I think OH YEAH THIS IS A FUCKING HYDRA. And I curse, in my mind, which I am not wont to do.
It distracts me.
I would, personally, and in general, like it if you hydras just said "We have a townread on Benmage." Or, if you are truly in disagreement (which makes me suspicious all on its own), maybe remind me? Like... Say- "My Other head has a townread on Benmage".
Or maybe, Could All Hydras post their Membership in their sigs, if they insist on constantly referencing player names of their other parts? That would also help ME IN PARTICULAR.

Obviously, none of this (save maybe the 'disagreements') is alignment-related... it just interferes with my flow, you know? I have a hard enough time with larges as it is.

/THANK YOU FOR INDULGING MY OFF-TOPIC CHATTER

[Cerulean]

Easy enough. Our names are now in our sigs as empire and I will be referring to each other.

The disagreement thing is something, I'm not real sure why you find suspicious, but is going to happen. We're two people, but like I said earlier, we work well together and read people pretty similarly, and although we talk about the game and leave messages in our qt for when we can't, there's going to be differences, especially considering Im princess wafflesalot and he's much more decisive.

[Cerulean]

Hmm, I've got a fair few townreads, but still unsure as to scumreads. I don't really have much of an opinion on Shadoweh either way yet either.

Jason? MacStab maybe?

I'll think more on it a bit later.

Are Jason and mcstab your town reads or your scum reads? If scum, you should vote Jason.

[Cerulean]

Quick post before going to bed, will catch up tomorrow. But Vifam constant one liners and lack of real content really sit wrong with me. I have him marked as scum already but so far seems to be trying to coast through the game doing very little.

Vifam - How is DV fake no matter what? Can you go into a bit more detail please... making empty statements like that is not really good for you right now.

So, if I told you that scum wall posts like the one in Post 122 that don't really add any content to the game and are made to look like you're busy isn't good for you right now, do you think you'd step it up and start providing content?